That one you have to run by wiz, he's got that stuff pegged down to a T.
- wonthecup10

Probably not. My reason is that the single most commodity needed is the best power type gritty forward. And the secondary choices for said type player likely gone by the later pick - maybe not at #5 but after that forget it.

When you have a #3 in this draft you might consider trading it only if your cupboard of prospects is barren. Not the case for Chicago

That one you have to run by wiz, he's got that stuff pegged down to a T.
- wonthecup10

Except for him not knowing the Sabres no longer have the 20th pick.

Hawks traded #4 in 1999 for McCabe and 2000 #11, which really wasn't even technically trading down in the draft, since they got a pick the following year.

My point was, it isn't very often you see any of the top 3 or even top 5 involved in draft day trading.

That whole thing was kind of an exception with the craziness of Vancouver wanting both twins.

Tampa had the first overall, Atlanta 2nd, Vancouver 3rd and Chicago 4th. Chicago got McCabe and a first for the next draft for their pick. Vancouver then swapped the 4th overall and two more picks to Tampa for the 1st overall, which they ended up sending to Atlanta for them to agree not to take a Sedin. Tampa ended up trading the 4th overall to the Rangers. It was pretty unusual anyway.
- breadbag

No Foley bobblehead huh? Couldn't remember if it was 3rd or 4th. So that 11th pick the next year, was that used to take one of the Russians (Unibrowvorov or Yakupov).?

That one I would do but why would the team with 4/16 do it? Pick one of Byram/Cozens/Turcotte at #4 and then pick up the goalie at #16.
- EbonyRaptor

Take Kaliyev at 16 or Newhook if he is there. Even York. I am so not a fan of taking a goalie in the 1st round. They are like RBs in the NFL. You can find good one in laters rounds.

No Foley bobblehead huh? Couldn't remember if it was 3rd or 4th. So that 11th pick the next year, was that used to take one of the Russians (Unibrowvorov or Yakupov).?
- HawkintheD

Does it matter? They both disappeared faster than cake at a fat club party.

Only if the player they really really want is at 3 and are willing to give up 4 and 16 because are going take said player. That only way it happens. Hawks need a big body center cozens who plays a 200ft game simlar to toews's game. If turcotte is from what i have read is like McKinnon that be good to but still cozens is my pick and Caulfield hawks already have enough undersized forwards do not need another need to balance out the team size speed skill grit and physicality some 5 10 players some 6 2 players speed and skill toughness and physicality and want.
- Scott1977

BPA...don't draft for need.

BPA...don't draft for need.
- HawkintheD

That and its Turcotte who has been compared style-wise Toews. Cozens has been compared to Kesler. Those are style comparisons. I will take the Toews like guy. Could be just me though.

Probably not. My reason is that the single most commodity needed is the best power type gritty forward. And the secondary choices for said type player likely gone by the later pick - maybe not at #5 but after that forget it.

When you have a #3 in this draft you might consider trading it only if your cupboard of prospects is barren. Not the case for Chicago
- jhawk59

If Hughes and Kakko are gone, Cozens or the Russian kid would be my next pick, but that's just me. 8 weeks to go, we'll see.

If Hughes and Kakko are gone, Cozens or the Russian kid would be my next pick, but that's just me. 8 weeks to go, we'll see.
- wonthecup10

Isn’t anyone here watching the games?

This is a terrific tournament this year, and there are still 8 weeks until the draft.

McCabe had a horrific first game as a Hawk. I know he had at least one own goal if not two. I just remember it being a night he probably couldn't forget soon enough.

Thought he was generally ok, though probably not worth the third overall which ended up being a Sedin (Hank I believe).

The whole thing was compounded and made truly dreadful when Smith traded McCabe for Potsy.
- HawkintheD

the NHL made sure the Sedins were going to play together because they said unless that was the case they weren't coming across the pond.

Isn’t anyone here watching the games?

This is a terrific tournament this year, and there are still 8 weeks until the draft.
- StLBravesFan

agree...cork the waste of time draft and trade banter....hell canes are 7 to 1 to win it all.

I just placed $100 with those odds. (well no not really) but they are my team now...

its going to be a wild card final aves vs the canes....

That and its Turcotte who has been compared style-wise Toews. Cozens has been compared to Kesler. Those are style comparisons. I will take the Toews like guy. Could be just me though.
- Elbows15

Haven't seen anything other than clips and profiles. Turcotte may not be over 6' but he isn't a small guy either and I've read is upside is 1C where I seem to recall Cozens has more 2C potential. Who knows, but yeah, I'll take the Toews-like guy too.

the NHL made sure the Sedins were going to play together because they said unless that was the case they weren't coming across the pond.
- 6628

Good joke but not true. Sorry.

Good joke but not true. Sorry.
- MjulQvist

Yeah i don't think the NHL had anything to do with it and it may not have been true at all, but I do remember that was the story being told before the 99 nhl entry draft.

http://historicalhockey.b...ks-draft-sedin-twins.html

That and its Turcotte who has been compared style-wise Toews. Cozens has been compared to Kesler. Those are style comparisons. I will take the Toews like guy. Could be just me though.
- Elbows15

Ok maybe i got my comparables wrong either way cozens or turcotte from what i read is the way to go but have a feeling bowman and company won't.

Yeah i don't think the NHL had anything to do with it and it may not have been true at all, but I do remember that was the story being told before the 99 nhl entry draft.

http://historicalhockey.b...ks-draft-sedin-twins.html
- bhawk1s

Daniel and Henrik told they were ready to represent different teams for first time in their career back then. That story was made up.

Great blog, Tyler! I cannot but remember those 'Hawk teams a few years ago where the PK was actually a bonafide threat for short handed goals.
Being outstanding on penalty killing would be a good way for a kid to earn a solid bottom six or third pairing paycheck.

That and its Turcotte who has been compared style-wise Toews. Cozens has been compared to Kesler. Those are style comparisons. I will take the Toews like guy. Could be just me though.
- Elbows15

I haven't read who Turcotte has been compared to but I have read Cozens plays like Toews but has a Kesler like mean streak.

I have seen clips of Turcotte and have seen Cozens in a few games on TV. The clips of Turcotte were edited to show his highlights while I saw some of Cozens' strong points and weaknesses. Based on that I don't have sufficient input to advocate for either. I have to trust the Hawks, based on their extensive scouting, will choose the best player available, whoever that happens to be.

Great blog, Tyler! I cannot but remember those 'Hawk teams a few years ago where the PK was actually a bonafide threat for short handed goals.
Being outstanding on penalty killing would be a good way for a kid to earn a solid bottom six or third pairing paycheck.
- 35Tony0

Being strong defensively 5 on 5 or on the PK is why the Hawks won 3 cups. That is what Chicago needs to develop once they have drafted.

Being strong defensively 5 on 5 or on the PK is why the Hawks won 3 cups. That is what Chicago needs to develop once they have drafted.
- paulr

Agreed.
Film study of Hossa on the backcheck should be required viewing for every Blackhawk from this day forward, forevermore.
(Edit: IMHO, Hoss actually passed his mentor Datsuk in that department.)

Being strong defensively 5 on 5 or on the PK is why the Hawks won 3 cups. That is what Chicago needs to develop once they have drafted.
- paulr

If we can fix the PK and tighten up defensively, this is a playoff team. That and we need a healthy CC.

BPA...don't draft for need.
- HawkintheD

Caufield

Caufield
- DarthKane

He's too big.

Watching the USA/Russia game in the U18 tournament.

Obviously Caufield has been stellar, but Turcotte has been impressive as well.

He's too big.
- HawkintheD

What are you talking about!? You're a lavender lover aren't you boy? We need face punchers!!