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Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Apr 30 @ 7:35 PM ET
You think Shero is happy with the wingers we have to play with Hughes or he gonna make a splash and get a top winger for him ?
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Apr 30 @ 10:06 PM ET
You think Shero is happy with the wingers we have to play with Hughes or he gonna make a splash and get a top winger for him ?
- Leniwm1



We desperately need RW's. Palms and Lappin aren't enough for our top 6. Palms would likely be a 2RW on most contenders at best, and the UFA market is very soft this season for RW's. I feel Eberle is the best RW UFA going into 2019, but unfortunately his sub-par regular season value is being elevated given his playoff production.

Now $4,059,322.00 is the absolute maximum you can offer another teams RFA's while being penalized a second round pick. That opens up some very realistic options. Obviously guys like Marner and Boeser would not be let go for 4M, but I feel guys like Kasperi Kapanen, Travis Konecny, Sam Bennett could all be ideal fits with age on their side.

I feel Zacha has to move to RW given the impending addition of Hughes down the middle. He has played Right before, and really showed some promise down the stretch. Noesen is a fringe NHL'er and he was on our second line for quite a while!

Dreams can come true......

Hall Hisch Palms
Mojo Hughes Kapenan
Coleman Zajac Eberle
Bratt Mcleod Zacha
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Apr 30 @ 10:27 PM ET
We desperately need RW's. Palms and Lappin aren't enough for our top 6. Palms would likely be a 2RW on most contenders at best, and the UFA market is very soft this season for RW's. I feel Eberle is the best RW UFA going into 2019, but unfortunately his sub-par regular season value is being elevated given his playoff production.

Now $4,059,322.00 is the absolute maximum you can offer another teams RFA's while being penalized a second round pick. That opens up some very realistic options. Obviously guys like Marner and Boeser would not be let go for 4M, but I feel guys like Kasperi Kapanen, Travis Konecny, Sam Bennett could all be ideal fits with age on their side.

I feel Zacha has to move to RW given the impending addition of Hughes down the middle. He has played Right before, and really showed some promise down the stretch. Noesen is a fringe NHL'er and he was on our second line for quite a while!

Dreams can come true......

Hall Hisch Palms
Mojo Hughes Kapenan
Coleman Zajac Eberle
Bratt Mcleod Zacha

- bikeguy99


I don't know about Mojo, but the other two arent that crazy of an idea. All depends if Shero's balls are big enough for an offer sheet. If the most is a 2nd, this isn't crazy at all.
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

May 1 @ 8:38 AM ET
From Dan Rosen @ NHL.com

With rumors swirling around P.K. Subban, do you think a team like the New Jersey Devils would be a good fit? They are in need of a No. 1 defenseman and his contract would end in time for the Devils to give Jack Hughes, if selected, big money if needed once his entry-level contract ends. -- @Rob_Oswald

It's a no-brainer for the Devils to try to acquire Subban if they can make a trade work with the Nashville Predators. The reasons you laid out are strong, especially with Subban having three years remaining on an eight-year, $72 million contract he signed with the Montreal Canadiens on Aug. 3, 2014. The Devils would be getting what likely would be Subban's last three prime years; he turns 30 on May 13. They'd still have the flexibility to sign forward Taylor Hall to a contract extension and center Nico Hischier to a new contract after his entry-level contract expires following next season.

The question is what will it cost to get Subban, who I think will be on the trading block because of the Predators' salary cap situation, especially on defense. Ryan Ellis' cap charge goes up to $6.25 million next season from $2.5 million this season. Roman Josi has one year remaining at $4 million and likely will get an extension that pays him at least double that annually. Something has to give.

Devils defenseman Ty Smith, the No. 17 pick in the 2018 NHL Draft, could entice Nashville. If the Predators want a proven defenseman instead, the Devils could offer Will Butcher or Damon Severson plus a draft pick or two. Butcher is a pending restricted free agent and Severson is signed for four more seasons with a cap charge of $4.167 million. Butcher's next contract could carry a similar cap charge.

Either way, getting Butcher or Severson means the Predators would be getting a fourth defenseman behind Josi, Ellis and Mattias Ekholm for about half the price they're paying Subban. That's the cap savings they need. Getting Smith means they're getting a top prospect, which is great for their future.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...07127910?partnerId=nhl-mw

TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

May 1 @ 8:41 AM ET
From Dan Rosen @ NHL.com

With rumors swirling around P.K. Subban, do you think a team like the New Jersey Devils would be a good fit? They are in need of a No. 1 defenseman and his contract would end in time for the Devils to give Jack Hughes, if selected, big money if needed once his entry-level contract ends. -- @Rob_Oswald

It's a no-brainer for the Devils to try to acquire Subban if they can make a trade work with the Nashville Predators. The reasons you laid out are strong, especially with Subban having three years remaining on an eight-year, $72 million contract he signed with the Montreal Canadiens on Aug. 3, 2014. The Devils would be getting what likely would be Subban's last three prime years; he turns 30 on May 13. They'd still have the flexibility to sign forward Taylor Hall to a contract extension and center Nico Hischier to a new contract after his entry-level contract expires following next season.

The question is what will it cost to get Subban, who I think will be on the trading block because of the Predators' salary cap situation, especially on defense. Ryan Ellis' cap charge goes up to $6.25 million next season from $2.5 million this season. Roman Josi has one year remaining at $4 million and likely will get an extension that pays him at least double that annually. Something has to give.

Devils defenseman Ty Smith, the No. 17 pick in the 2018 NHL Draft, could entice Nashville. If the Predators want a proven defenseman instead, the Devils could offer Will Butcher or Damon Severson plus a draft pick or two. Butcher is a pending restricted free agent and Severson is signed for four more seasons with a cap charge of $4.167 million. Butcher's next contract could carry a similar cap charge.

Either way, getting Butcher or Severson means the Predators would be getting a fourth defenseman behind Josi, Ellis and Mattias Ekholm for about half the price they're paying Subban. That's the cap savings they need. Getting Smith means they're getting a top prospect, which is great for their future.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...07127910?partnerId=nhl-mw

- TRDevil


What do you guys think about that. I personally would rather keep Severson as we know what he is, where if Smith falls short if expectation we will be worse off. I disagree with trading Butcher as he chose the Devils, I think it would send a bad message to pending NCAA players, but maybe thats too sensitive.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

May 1 @ 8:49 AM ET
From Dan Rosen @ NHL.com

With rumors swirling around P.K. Subban, do you think a team like the New Jersey Devils would be a good fit? They are in need of a No. 1 defenseman and his contract would end in time for the Devils to give Jack Hughes, if selected, big money if needed once his entry-level contract ends. -- @Rob_Oswald

It's a no-brainer for the Devils to try to acquire Subban if they can make a trade work with the Nashville Predators. The reasons you laid out are strong, especially with Subban having three years remaining on an eight-year, $72 million contract he signed with the Montreal Canadiens on Aug. 3, 2014. The Devils would be getting what likely would be Subban's last three prime years; he turns 30 on May 13. They'd still have the flexibility to sign forward Taylor Hall to a contract extension and center Nico Hischier to a new contract after his entry-level contract expires following next season.

The question is what will it cost to get Subban, who I think will be on the trading block because of the Predators' salary cap situation, especially on defense. Ryan Ellis' cap charge goes up to $6.25 million next season from $2.5 million this season. Roman Josi has one year remaining at $4 million and likely will get an extension that pays him at least double that annually. Something has to give.

Devils defenseman Ty Smith, the No. 17 pick in the 2018 NHL Draft, could entice Nashville. If the Predators want a proven defenseman instead, the Devils could offer Will Butcher or Damon Severson plus a draft pick or two. Butcher is a pending restricted free agent and Severson is signed for four more seasons with a cap charge of $4.167 million. Butcher's next contract could carry a similar cap charge.

Either way, getting Butcher or Severson means the Predators would be getting a fourth defenseman behind Josi, Ellis and Mattias Ekholm for about half the price they're paying Subban. That's the cap savings they need. Getting Smith means they're getting a top prospect, which is great for their future.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...07127910?partnerId=nhl-mw

- TRDevil


Severson is 5 years younger and got more points this season. Why does NJ need to get older on D? Yet, Subban isn't even that much more defensively responsible... though he is admittedly a lot more of an on-ice/off-ice presence.

If any move would be made for Subban, it would definitely be after free agency, but even then, I'm tentative. NJ needs a true #1 and Subban I never saw as more than a 3-4 guy, and extremely overpaid at that.

rawwdogg88
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.18.2013

May 1 @ 9:14 AM ET
What do you guys think about that. I personally would rather keep Severson as we know what he is, where if Smith falls short if expectation we will be worse off. I disagree with trading Butcher as he chose the Devils, I think it would send a bad message to pending NCAA players, but maybe thats too sensitive.
- TRDevil


I'm not against acquiring Subban for a 2nd rd pick and two third rounders. Whoever acquires Subban is doing the Preds a favor getting them out of that crazy contract. I'm most certainly not giving up Severson, Butcher, or Smith to acquire him.

I'd personally rather would go after Ekholm as far as Nashville's defensemen go.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 1 @ 9:17 AM ET
I'm not against acquiring Subban for a 2nd rd pick and two third rounders. Whoever acquires Subban is doing the Preds a favor getting them out of that crazy contract. I'm most certainly not giving up Severson, Butcher, or Smith to acquire him.
- rawwdogg88

I don't think they would want picks while their window is open. It may not be a match.
rawwdogg88
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.18.2013

May 1 @ 9:31 AM ET
I don't think they would want picks while their window is open. It may not be a match.
- willschulme


Yeah, that's true. I think we'd also need to land a big fish in free agency if we're going to make a win now move in acquiring Subban.
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

May 1 @ 9:50 AM ET
Severson is 5 years younger and got more points this season. Why does NJ need to get older on D? Yet, Subban isn't even that much more defensively responsible... though he is admittedly a lot more of an on-ice/off-ice presence.

If any move would be made for Subban, it would definitely be after free agency, but even then, I'm tentative. NJ needs a true #1 and Subban I never saw as more than a 3-4 guy, and extremely overpaid at that.

- archromat


Yeah thats true. Though he would help the offense, just because PK would be a #1 here now on NJ doesn't make him an actual #1, and Smith could be better than all the above so it could be one of those moves you regret.
devilspep
Joined: 07.12.2009

May 1 @ 10:01 AM ET
Meh it looks like Subban regressed and you're all talking about giving up defenseman who had better or similar offensive years (Butcher, Severson). Then you have Ty Smith who was a steal to get at 17 and will be under team control for years and not to mention if he goes then that left side will be brutal after Butcher especially after Green likely finishes his last year with the team.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 1 @ 10:11 AM ET
We desperately need RW's. Palms and Lappin aren't enough for our top 6. Palms would likely be a 2RW on most contenders at best, and the UFA market is very soft this season for RW's. I feel Eberle is the best RW UFA going into 2019, but unfortunately his sub-par regular season value is being elevated given his playoff production.

Now $4,059,322.00 is the absolute maximum you can offer another teams RFA's while being penalized a second round pick. That opens up some very realistic options. Obviously guys like Marner and Boeser would not be let go for 4M, but I feel guys like Kasperi Kapanen, Travis Konecny, Sam Bennett could all be ideal fits with age on their side.

I feel Zacha has to move to RW given the impending addition of Hughes down the middle. He has played Right before, and really showed some promise down the stretch. Noesen is a fringe NHL'er and he was on our second line for quite a while!

Dreams can come true......

Hall Hisch Palms
Mojo Hughes Kapenan
Coleman Zajac Eberle
Bratt Mcleod Zacha

- bikeguy99

Mojo really? No need to go back down that road.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 1 @ 10:14 AM ET
From Dan Rosen @ NHL.com

With rumors swirling around P.K. Subban, do you think a team like the New Jersey Devils would be a good fit? They are in need of a No. 1 defenseman and his contract would end in time for the Devils to give Jack Hughes, if selected, big money if needed once his entry-level contract ends. -- @Rob_Oswald

It's a no-brainer for the Devils to try to acquire Subban if they can make a trade work with the Nashville Predators. The reasons you laid out are strong, especially with Subban having three years remaining on an eight-year, $72 million contract he signed with the Montreal Canadiens on Aug. 3, 2014. The Devils would be getting what likely would be Subban's last three prime years; he turns 30 on May 13. They'd still have the flexibility to sign forward Taylor Hall to a contract extension and center Nico Hischier to a new contract after his entry-level contract expires following next season.

The question is what will it cost to get Subban, who I think will be on the trading block because of the Predators' salary cap situation, especially on defense. Ryan Ellis' cap charge goes up to $6.25 million next season from $2.5 million this season. Roman Josi has one year remaining at $4 million and likely will get an extension that pays him at least double that annually. Something has to give.

Devils defenseman Ty Smith, the No. 17 pick in the 2018 NHL Draft, could entice Nashville. If the Predators want a proven defenseman instead, the Devils could offer Will Butcher or Damon Severson plus a draft pick or two. Butcher is a pending restricted free agent and Severson is signed for four more seasons with a cap charge of $4.167 million. Butcher's next contract could carry a similar cap charge.

Either way, getting Butcher or Severson means the Predators would be getting a fourth defenseman behind Josi, Ellis and Mattias Ekholm for about half the price they're paying Subban. That's the cap savings they need. Getting Smith means they're getting a top prospect, which is great for their future.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...07127910?partnerId=nhl-mw

- TRDevil

No thanks
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

May 1 @ 10:40 AM ET
I'm not against acquiring Subban for a 2nd rd pick and two third rounders. Whoever acquires Subban is doing the Preds a favor getting them out of that crazy contract. I'm most certainly not giving up Severson, Butcher, or Smith to acquire him.

I'd personally rather would go after Ekholm as far as Nashville's defensemen go.

- rawwdogg88


This. I'm not too interested in Subban. I don't watch him a ton, outside of the playoffs, but I'm not sure how great he is on defense and how intelligent he is as a 2-way dman. I DEFINITELY wouldn't give up Smith for him. Smith is nearly untouchable for me. Butcher or Severson.. eh. maybe.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 1 @ 11:15 AM ET
This. I'm not too interested in Subban. I don't watch him a ton, outside of the playoffs, but I'm not sure how great he is on defense and how intelligent he is as a 2-way dman. I DEFINITELY wouldn't give up Smith for him. Smith is nearly untouchable for me. Butcher or Severson.. eh. maybe.
- MartysBetter88


I'll take him for draft picks. He makes so sense for us, trading kids with upside when he is on decline, or will be shortly.

PASS
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 1 @ 11:39 AM ET
It's official. Hughes is going
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

May 1 @ 12:28 PM ET
This. I'm not too interested in Subban. I don't watch him a ton, outside of the playoffs, but I'm not sure how great he is on defense and how intelligent he is as a 2-way dman. I DEFINITELY wouldn't give up Smith for him. Smith is nearly untouchable for me. Butcher or Severson.. eh. maybe.
- MartysBetter88


My issue with adding PK is that we really don't need RD. Vats, Severson, Carrick are a pretty solid Right side.

Left is where we have issues. Ty Smith and Jeremy Davies are two fantastic prospects on the Left, but remain unproven. Greene is a bottom pairing D at best in my opinion. He can't perform with big minutes anymore. Butch is good, But Butch, Smith, and Davies may be our LD this season. Could be great, but remains to be proven.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

May 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
Mojo really? No need to go back down that road.
- shvingter88


That's fair. As good as he is, and he thrives with rushing Center's like Hughes, he has been a band-aid. Only suggested it because I feel he could be attainable for a favorable contract. I was thinking something like 3 years at 5M aav. That would be an easy contract for the Devs.

I really like Coleman, but his numbers aren't indicative of a 2LW. He is a fantastic power forward, and would compliment a strong 3rd line nicely with Zajac and Eb's.

Who do you feel would be a good LW for Hughes? Obviously Panarin would be fantastic, but that just isn't going to happen.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

May 1 @ 12:50 PM ET
That's fair. As good as he is, and he thrives with rushing Center's like Hughes, he has been a band-aid. Only suggested it because I feel he could be attainable for a favorable contract. I was thinking something like 3 years at 5M aav. That would be an easy contract for the Devs.

I really like Coleman, but his numbers aren't indicative of a 2LW. He is a fantastic power forward, and would compliment a strong 3rd line nicely with Zajac and Eb's.

Who do you feel would be a good LW for Hughes? Obviously Panarin would be fantastic, but that just isn't going to happen.

- bikeguy99


Yeah i agree that im not a fan of bringing MoJo back. As for whats available to bring in from Free Agency, my top target would be Ferland, he has decent skill to put alongside Hughes but also brings a physical edge that we need in our lineup, and he could somewhat protect Hughes. Besides Ferland i wouldnt mind bringing in one of Skinner, Eberle, Nyquist, or Dzingel. All of those guys i listed can play either side, and would be decent upgrades over what we have now for that second line, and allow us to not need to play someone like Wood or Boqvist higher in the lineup then they really should be. But thats just free agency, who knows what Ray does via the trade route, or even offer sheets(someone like Kapanen would be a guy i'd love to get somehow)
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 1 @ 12:56 PM ET
That's fair. As good as he is, and he thrives with rushing Center's like Hughes, he has been a band-aid. Only suggested it because I feel he could be attainable for a favorable contract. I was thinking something like 3 years at 5M aav. That would be an easy contract for the Devs.

I really like Coleman, but his numbers aren't indicative of a 2LW. He is a fantastic power forward, and would compliment a strong 3rd line nicely with Zajac and Eb's.

Who do you feel would be a good LW for Hughes? Obviously Panarin would be fantastic, but that just isn't going to happen.

- bikeguy99


Duchene? Kid is playing really well on a talented team. He can play wing.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

May 1 @ 1:35 PM ET
My issue with adding PK is that we really don't need RD. Vats, Severson, Carrick are a pretty solid Right side.

Left is where we have issues. Ty Smith and Jeremy Davies are two fantastic prospects on the Left, but remain unproven. Greene is a bottom pairing D at best in my opinion. He can't perform with big minutes anymore. Butch is good, But Butch, Smith, and Davies may be our LD this season. Could be great, but remains to be proven.

- bikeguy99


I think our left side is fine with Smith, Greene and Butcher. Right is decent too with Vatanen, Severson, Carrick. Like I've been saying this off-season, we really don't need any depth players. We don't need bottom 4 dmen, or bottom 6 wingers. If Shero is going to make a move it has to be for a top 3 dman at worst (Ekholm, for example..not that he's at all "bad" but he's not EK), and/or a legit, not fringe, top 6 winger.
devilspep
Joined: 07.12.2009

May 1 @ 2:03 PM ET
That's fair. As good as he is, and he thrives with rushing Center's like Hughes, he has been a band-aid. Only suggested it because I feel he could be attainable for a favorable contract. I was thinking something like 3 years at 5M aav. That would be an easy contract for the Devs.

I really like Coleman, but his numbers aren't indicative of a 2LW. He is a fantastic power forward, and would compliment a strong 3rd line nicely with Zajac and Eb's.

Who do you feel would be a good LW for Hughes? Obviously Panarin would be fantastic, but that just isn't going to happen.

- bikeguy99


Jeff Skinner maybe?
devilspep
Joined: 07.12.2009

May 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
Or just put Bratt back to his left side and look for a RW like Eberle
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 1 @ 2:24 PM ET
Or just put Bratt back to his left side and look for a RW like Eberle
- devilspep


Then where is Panarin gonna go?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 1 @ 2:26 PM ET
Then where is Panarin gonna go?
- Leniwm1

To the Panthers.
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