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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
I don't know if it was unfair but I would've liked to see Byram, Dach, Robertson and maybe McMichael on the team and see how it would've played out
- Brooks_Light

You are the first person to mention my 9th rank prospect. (that i've seen)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:14 PM ET
You are the first person to mention my 9th rank prospect. (that i've seen)
- manvanfan



Out of curiosity do you have Dach or Cozens top 10?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 28 @ 2:16 PM ET
I don't know if it was unfair but I would've liked to see Byram, Dach, Robertson and maybe McMichael on the team and see how it would've played out
- Brooks_Light

It’s unfair because Canada doesn’t have access to all of their players and the US kids play together all season
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 28 @ 2:16 PM ET
I SEE MY NAME, I BETTER RESPOND!


I got to skim through watching the Russian game yesterday and I didn't move Podkolzin from where I have slotted but I did think he's as good as people that have him at 3oa. (Not me) but people that worry about his production in this tournament in in the MHL, KHL, VHL. As of right now he has the same as many points VS 20 year olds that he has against 18 year olds.

- manvanfan

What?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:18 PM ET
It’s unfair because Canada doesn’t have access to all of their players and the US kids play together all season
- CanuckDon



Canada has not won a medal in 4 years maybe time to change the program?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 2:20 PM ET
I was not basing my opinion on points. I think he has an injury if not mistaking. I just don't really think he has shown slick moves.

He is responsible in both ends and is a decent top 15 guy. There is also the Russian factor. I just see the Americans head and shoulders above the rest and would take them before him.

- VANTEL

That is sort of the points why he is ranked so highly is because he is already responsible at both ends.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Apr 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
It’s unfair because Canada doesn’t have access to all of their players and the US kids play together all season
- CanuckDon


Yeah i understand that but its like this every year
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
Out of curiosity do you have Dach or Cozens top 10?
- VANTEL

Dach 3
Cozens 12

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
That is sort of the points why he is ranked so highly is because he is already responsible at both ends.
- manvanfan


I agree but it is not sexy.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:24 PM ET
Dach 3
Cozens 12

- manvanfan



Cool. Don't agree obviously but respect the opinion.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 28 @ 2:27 PM ET
Yeah i understand that but its like this every year
- Brooks_Light

Oh I know and I don’t have a problem with it. I was responding to Vantel hating on the Canadians in this draft.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Apr 28 @ 2:27 PM ET
You are the first person to mention my 9th rank prospect. (that i've seen)
- manvanfan


9th is high - i'd expect him to go in the low 20s. But he took a huge impressive step forward this season. Outscored Foudy, Boqvist and Bouchard - on a pretty good Knights team. I could see Ana or Pitts taking him.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 28 @ 2:27 PM ET
Cool. Don't agree obviously but respect the opinion.
- VANTEL

You must have seen a pretty sh!tty game from Dach.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 28 @ 2:29 PM ET
Oh I know and I don’t have a problem with it. I was responding to Vantel hating on the Canadians in this draft.
- CanuckDon


doesn't matter we're getting a Swede.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:32 PM ET
You must have seen a pretty sh!tty game from Dach.
- CanuckDon


I heard a few things about his game from a few guys like Biech and Robinson(Minivans buddies) and they said buyer beware basically. Then I watched him play two playoff games and was not impressed at all.

I don't like guys that skate standing straight up when they don't have the puck.

I am not a draft expert by any means so it is just my preference , nothing more.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 28 @ 2:33 PM ET
doesn't matter we're getting a Swede.
- VanHockeyGuy

God I hope not. We need another American 🎉🎉
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:33 PM ET
doesn't matter we're getting a Swede.
- VanHockeyGuy



Finally someone who is right
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 2:35 PM ET
Cool. Don't agree obviously but respect the opinion.
- VANTEL

We aren't really that much different than the Canucks scouts together. They all have different opinions on players. They see different things and personally when someone likes a prospects, i'm going to go look at that player and see what they are seeing. It may or may not change my opinion on a prospect but I don't have to change my list if I don't want too.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:38 PM ET
We aren't really that much different than the Canucks scouts together. They all have different opinions on players. They see different things and personally when someone likes a prospects, i'm going to go look at that player and see what they are seeing. It may or may not change my opinion on a prospect but I don't have to change my list if I don't want too.
- manvanfan



Everyone has a different take and choices . It makes it interesting. I know you do your homework on this and we seldom agree but I always know it is well thought out.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 2:44 PM ET
9th is high - i'd expect him to go in the low 20s. But he took a huge impressive step forward this season. Outscored Foudy, Boqvist and Bouchard - on a pretty good Knights team. I could see Ana or Pitts taking him.
- Brooks_Light

Robert Thomas 66 points in 66 games plus 39 (first season 33 points in 70 games) Taken 20th. Currently 4th in scoring in his draft.

Max Domi 87 points in 64 games plus 33 (Just had a 70 point season) Taken 13th and is 7th in scoring in draft year 15 points behind Bo in 70 less games.

Bo Horvat 61 points in 67 games plus 3 (Just had 60 point season) Taken 9th and is 6th in scoring in his draft year. Soon to be passed by the guy above.

McMichael 72 points in 67 games plus 15. He started to play 3rd line in the playoff for some reason and they started to lose. I don't see him as a centre in the NHL though.

Looking at London's history for churning out top forwards that don't seem to get the love but still produce.

Edit: I do agree he may go a lot lower but I do rankings not mock drafts now a days. Too many players I dislike I have to rank is too annoying
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
I have always chuckled at the way posters talk in absolutes, as if they are better qualified over the people in the industry.
- Makita

Yes. It seems most posters speak in absolutes.
Lately you seem to be far beyond that. Cool. You've risen. Keep going this way
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:49 PM ET
That was a goal
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Apr 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
Oh I know and I don’t have a problem with it. I was responding to Vantel hating on the Canadians in this draft.
- CanuckDon


Yeah you gotta factor in everything - these kids play in very different environments/leagues. Plus the tourneys - like Suzuki for example didn't have a great WJ18 but was really impressive (playmaking) at the Hlinka. Podkolzin had 2A but is speculated he's injured, he had 8g in 5gms at the Hlinka. It's hard to project - hell, Lias Andersson looked deadly at the WJ20s, decent in the AHL but certainly hasn't looked good in the NHL - yet.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 28 @ 3:30 PM ET
Thats funny i haven't heard that comparison but i have heard "he's the Jake Virtanen of defence" I don't see why he'd go in the top 10 , and I dont see why we'd take another LHD and a mediocre one at that. It would be a colossal disappointment if we choose him at 10, maybe in the 2nd.
- Brooks_Light

He and soderstrom may both go top 10. Both will go top 15. Outside of Byram, they are the class of the draft. If you were watching this gold medal game you would see why.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 28 @ 3:37 PM ET
Where the jack hughes haters at?

Did he win any of you over?
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