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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 28 @ 9:37 PM ET
It would be nice if drafting was that simple, fortunately it isn’t. 2017 we drafted 5th but got the best forward in Petterson. 2013 we drafted 9th and probably got the 5th best forward in the draft. 2015 Boeser is arguably the 6th best forward and he was taken 23rd overall.

Your odds of drafting an impact forward at #9 are huge if you choose wisely, therein lies the problem. Choosing wisely.

- Pacificgem


My difficulty is what is BPA at 10oa?
It gets muddled after the 1-6 imo.
Our needs are playmakers & RHD.
C’s are always in demand but go fast & yet the farm could need them & develop them.
Speed & skill is needed & we gotta get it right & not let this draft pass us by & further delay the rebuild.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 9:40 PM ET
It would be nice if drafting was that simple, fortunately it isn’t. 2017 we drafted 5th but got the best forward in Petterson. 2013 we drafted 9th and probably got the 5th best forward in the draft. 2015 Boeser is arguably the 6th best forward and he was taken 23rd overall.

Your odds of drafting an impact forward at #9 are huge if you choose wisely, therein lies the problem. Choosing wisely.

- Pacificgem



Boesers draft was a very strong draft and there was some top 15 selections that failed.
I don't particularly like Zacha or Crouse. There was also 4 very good Dmen taken in the top 15 that have had very good careers so far.

You are correct , whatever slot you pick at , you need to make the right choice.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 28 @ 9:40 PM ET
JB has a logjam of F’s assembled for Green. It’s not great but it looks to buy us some time. No prospect is held back & it’s not as if there is plenty on the farm. We have gaps in talent & depth with only break out seasons on the big club to hope for.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 28 @ 9:45 PM ET
Go through the draft history over the last 20 years and see how how many forwards on average in the first round make the NHL and then figure out how many of them are impact players . Then do the same with the D

I am pretty sure Canucks would be looking at the 9 th best forward.

Will your odds of drafting an impact player come with drafting a Dman or forward?

- VANTEL

Yes, as I've said before we need to draft D en mass. A few good D would change things for us dramatically. Hell even 1 would have an impact. We already see that impact in hughes.
We need a solid defender, a young willie mitchel type and someone to take over tanevs role on the D.
Soderstrum will be decent if we dont somehow manage to get byram. Hopefully hockey santa visits the Canucks this June/july
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 28 @ 9:47 PM ET
Any one or more of needs to happen...

Pearson becomes a legit winger for EP.
Sven stays healthy.
OJ shows huge progress not promise.
JV comes outta the gate possessed.
Gaudette makes us truly a 3 line team.
Many changes/trades...
Sutter Hutton etc
Lastly & most importantly the cap is a weapon & used wisely & remains a huge asset today & beyond.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 9:55 PM ET
Yes, as I've said before we need to draft D en mass. A few good D would change things for us dramatically. Hell even 1 would have an impact. We already see that impact in hughes.
We need a solid defender, a young willie mitchel type and someone to take over tanevs role on the D.
Soderstrum will be decent if we dont somehow manage to get byram. Hopefully hockey santa visits the Canucks this June/july

- SMBDragon

7 rounds to draft D. NYI drafted 7 D once and came out with Adam Pelech only
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 28 @ 9:55 PM ET
Any one or more of needs to happen...

Pearson becomes a legit winger for EP.
Sven stays healthy.
OJ shows huge progress not promise.
JV comes outta the gate possessed.
Gaudette makes us truly a 3 line team.
Many changes/trades...
Sutter Hutton etc
Lastly & most importantly the cap is a weapon & used wisely & remains a huge asset today & beyond.

- Nighthawk

Pearson was great with horvat.
I'd say sven is the player we move not JV as many want.
Jv can really make an impact. Improvement each season as he learns the NHL game.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 28 @ 9:59 PM ET
Pearson was great with horvat.
I'd say sven is the player we move not JV as many want.
Jv can really make an impact. Improvement each season as he learns the NHL game.

- SMBDragon

Sven has to create himself the market.
JV time is ticking but worth keeping being versatile. Consistency & impart his will.

We do have Madden & Woo & Rathbone doing nicely & maybe Lockwood will bloom.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 10:03 PM ET
Boesers draft was a very strong draft and there was some top 15 selections that failed.
I don't particularly like Zacha or Crouse. There was also 4 very good Dmen taken in the top 15 that have had very good careers so far.

You are correct , whatever slot you pick at , you need to make the right choice.

- VANTEL

I still think Zacha can be a pretty good forward but not in New Jersey
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:05 PM ET
7 rounds to draft D
- manvanfan

This team hasn't had an impact D in a long time. Edler arguably was last. Ohlund before that.
An impact D is what we've sorely needed for a long time. Byram would be our franchise guy on D. Soderstrum is decent. Together with hughes and OJ (assuming) it would greatly solidify a good future.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 28 @ 10:06 PM ET
Boesers draft was a very strong draft and there was some top 15 selections that failed.
I don't particularly like Zacha or Crouse. There was also 4 very good Dmen taken in the top 15 that have had very good careers so far.

You are correct , whatever slot you pick at , you need to make the right choice.

- VANTEL

For sure, it goes both ways, 2014 we drafted 6th and got a terrible forward, thanks to F. Aquilini. Just make good pick and hope the other guys (frank) up. In Brackett I trust.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:08 PM ET
For sure, it goes both ways, 2014 we drafted 6th and got a terrible forward, thanks to F. Aquilini. Just make good pick and hope the other guys (frank) up. In Brackett I trust.
- Pacificgem

Yup
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 28 @ 10:08 PM ET
Whether realistic or not or simply a pipe dream i target Panarin Fox Kapanen & maybe Burakovsky.

Weaponize our cap to get TBL Jets Leafs to trade with us.

Panarin 6/10m
Fox to fill a dire need somehow.
Kapanen an OS candidate.
Burakovsky if a reasonable trade with many players here gone by trade or not resigned.

I don’t foresee a huge shake-up but wouldn’t mind seeing one. I would like the 2020-21 to be our season to arrive & be a force. Time for ruthless moves & decisions started yesterday.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:09 PM ET
SJ avs is very entertaining
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 28 @ 10:09 PM ET
I forgot Zegras sorry


I even called the piecs they would be traded for . I said Guddy for McCann and a second and Sutter for Bonino .

- VANTEL


You predicted all the (frank) arounds in the Canucks future if Gillis resigned the Sedins for 6 or 7 years.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 10:10 PM ET
For sure, it goes both ways, 2014 we drafted 6th and got a terrible forward, thanks to F. Aquilini. Just make good pick and hope the other guys (frank) up. In Brackett I trust.
- Pacificgem

I don't feel that bad about picking JV at 6 in that draft. Not a chance i'd do it again but it ended up being a pretty poopty draft. 5 out of the top 10 scorers were outside the top 10. 3 were outside the 1st round
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:15 PM ET
Whether realistic or not or simply a pipe dream i target Panarin Fox Kapanen & maybe Burakovsky.

Weaponize our cap to get TBL Jets Leafs to trade with us.

Panarin 6/10m
Fox to fill a dire need somehow.
Kapanen an OS candidate.
Burakovsky if a reasonable trade with many players here gone by trade or not resigned.

I don’t foresee a huge shake-up but wouldn’t mind seeing one. I would like the 2020-21 to be our season to arrive & be a force. Time for ruthless moves & decisions started yesterday.

- Nighthawk

Well green did say some changes would happen. Some players wouldn't be back.

Panarin would definitely greatly upgrade the team. Who knows maybe even gets LE to produce??

I dont want to OS because of the draft picks we'd lose
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:16 PM ET
You predicted all the (frank) arounds in the Canucks future if Gillis resigned the Sedins for 6 or 7 years.

- boonerbuck


It was pretty accurate
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 10:16 PM ET
SJ avs is very entertaining
- SMBDragon

See what happens when you have good old farm boys out there doing what needs to be done to win hockey games (Calvert). (he's not actually a "farm boy")
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 28 @ 10:16 PM ET
I don't feel that bad about picking JV at 6 in that draft. Not a chance i'd do it again but it ended up being a pretty poopty draft. 5 out of the top 10 scorers were outside the top 10. 3 were outside the 1st round
- manvanfan

All true, but, the moral of the story is just because you’re drafting #10 doesn’t mean you’re getting the tenth best forward. You could get the best forward in the draft, Rantanen, or, you could get him in the second round, Bergeron or Kucherov.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:17 PM ET
I don't feel that bad about picking JV at 6 in that draft. Not a chance i'd do it again but it ended up being a pretty poopty draft. 5 out of the top 10 scorers were outside the top 10. 3 were outside the 1st round
- manvanfan


I don't think this one is particularly strong either but we will see.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:21 PM ET
I don't feel that bad about picking JV at 6 in that draft. Not a chance i'd do it again but it ended up being a pretty poopty draft. 5 out of the top 10 scorers were outside the top 10. 3 were outside the 1st round
- manvanfan

Jv is emerging.
Currently his size, physical presence help us. But his speed greatly helps us. Makes space for us.
I believe he will an impact power forward
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:26 PM ET
See what happens when you have good old farm boys out there doing what needs to be done to win hockey games (Calvert). (he's not actually a "farm boy")
- manvanfan

That's right. Playoffs is the real reason you need role players.
It's like Tim hunter. He looked to be a wasted roster spot, then the playoffs hit and he was really good. I'll not forget his performance in the 94 scf...friggin king Kong.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 10:30 PM ET
I don't think this one is particularly strong either but we will see.
- VANTEL

I think there is a lot of underrated talent that is yet to be unearthed and at the same time the talent that is out there is getting so much love because there is a bit of a gap between talent.

Normally, I have 3 players I want in each round for Van. Past round 4 I seem to be just slapping players in

I actually went through NHL central scouting for names that I have not seen or missed or passed by early and added a few names.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 10:31 PM ET
Jv is emerging.
Currently his size, physical presence help us. But his speed greatly helps us. Makes space for us.
I believe he will an impact power forward

- SMBDragon

I feel like he still does have a little more then what we have seen. Maybe not a lot but enough that people will occasionally forget where he was drafted.
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