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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 8:45 PM ET
Ty Carol

Russians are enigmas far too often.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 8:47 PM ET
One of the biggest things i've noticed from this tournament alone is the offensive creativity from USA is far superior to Canada's. Granted Canada has much better all around players but the difference between Zegras, Hughes, Boldy compared to Newhook, Krebs and Tracey in terms of what can be done in the offensive zone was night and day.
- manvanfan


5 words - All year All Star team
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 8:54 PM ET
What would it take for you guys to trade Markstrom? Like pick/prospect wise.


He's one of the few true veteran "sell high" candidates at 29 years old and coming off of what is considered to be his best season.


It's a ballsy move since you put a lot of faith into Demko moving forward, and would have to go into free agency needing to sign a goalie to split starts with him.

- Nucker101


FLA 1st
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 27 @ 8:55 PM ET
5 words - All year All Star team
- Nighthawk

What team you play for has something to do with your skill level?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 8:57 PM ET
Do you think Canucks would have given him only a two year deal if they thought he was the real deal?
- VANTEL

Called a bridge contract & young backups don’t get the big bucks.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 9:03 PM ET
What team you play for has something to do with your skill level?
- manvanfan

No but chemistry does Duh
Skill level got them a Bronze medal game
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 27 @ 9:12 PM ET
No but chemistry does Duh
Skill level got them a Bronze medal game

- Nighthawk

I'm pretty speechless right now. Blog's all yours. Have a good evening.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 9:15 PM ET
I'm pretty speechless right now. Blog's all yours. Have a good evening.
- manvanfan

Last word on the topic for me.
A team that has the best talent & plays all year together should win gold. Not teams that have PO’s going on & what is left make up their team. Guess it might be Bronze.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 9:42 PM ET
Panarin now there is an NHL scorer 👍
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 10:14 PM ET
Bo needs a midget perimeter RW.
Anyone agree?

Sven Bo midget

Hope Bo’s back doesn’t break lol
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Apr 27 @ 10:16 PM ET
Panarin now there is an NHL scorer 👍
- Nighthawk


I know it would never happen, but, I think you got to try. He’ll be worth it. All skill.

2 years top 6!

BB - EP - this years draft
AP - BH - ferglund
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 10:17 PM ET
I know it would never happen, but, I think you got to try. He’ll be worth it. All skill.

2 years top 6!

BB - EP - this years draft
AP - BH - ferglund

- canucksfan1944


If we can sign him it’s can’t miss good
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 27 @ 10:20 PM ET
One of the biggest things i've noticed from this tournament alone is the offensive creativity from USA is far superior to Canada's. Granted Canada has much better all around players but the difference between Zegras, Hughes, Boldy compared to Newhook, Krebs and Tracey in terms of what can be done in the offensive zone was night and day.
- manvanfan


I know I am late to the party, but, I wonder if the Canadian squad, might still have several top players playing in the CHL playoffs and Junior playoffs?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 27 @ 10:23 PM ET
Apologies if this has been gone over before, i haven't been here very much of late.

Read a dubious rumor (via Botchford) that involves PK Subban to Vancouver.
Would somehow involve Van taking James Neal off the Flames, with the sweetener of it's 1st rounder and a prospect like Dube.

Vancouver would then flip the 1st and prospect from Calgary, plus ??? to take PK's salary off of Nsh.

Thoughts?

Seems like a steep price to pay from Calgary's pov to get out from under Neal's contract.
Nashville i could see as interested in moving on from PK and bringing up Fabbro to play with Josi, Ekholm, Ellis and Hamhuis, et al.

I know people were discussing the potential trade for PK years ago and have likely soured on him now.
I'd be good with trading for him under certain conditions.
Trade Tanev for prospects/picks.
Trade Sutter and Eriksson (if we're acquiring Neal).
Trade the Calgary package plus Goldobin and Hutton for PK

Edler, Hughes, Stetcher, Subban is a much improved top 4 imo.


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 10:30 PM ET
Apologies if this has been gone over before, i haven't been here very much of late.

Read a dubious rumor (via Botchford) that involves PK Subban to Vancouver.
Would somehow involve Van taking James Neal off the Flames, with the sweetener of it's 1st rounder and a prospect like Dube.

Vancouver would then flip the 1st and prospect from Calgary, plus ??? to take PK's salary off of Nsh.

Thoughts?

Seems like a steep price to pay from Calgary's pov to get out from under Neal's contract.
Nashville i could see as interested in moving on from PK and bringing up Fabbro to play with Josi, Ekholm, Ellis and Hamhuis, et al.

I know people were discussing the potential trade for PK years ago and have likely soured on him now.
I'd be good with trading for him under certain conditions.
Trade Tanev for prospects/picks.
Trade Sutter and Eriksson (if we're acquiring Neal).
Trade the Calgary package plus Goldobin and Hutton for PK

Edler, Hughes, Stetcher, Subban is a much improved top 4 imo.

- dbot


Flames 1st is late in a draft not that deep.
Dube is nothing special.
9.5m for PK is not good value for his age.

Botchfords idea does us no favours.
Why help Calgary & the Preds?
Neal is a big cap drag.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 27 @ 10:36 PM ET
I know I am late to the party, but, I wonder if the Canadian squad, might still have several top players playing in the CHL playoffs and Junior playoffs?
- Reubenkincade

Dach would probably be the only one missing.
The US does a lot of short ice 3 on 3 when they are younger to promote creativity and individual skills like stick handling. I feel as if you are starting to see the effect of it in the American players.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 10:47 PM ET
Apologies if this has been gone over before, i haven't been here very much of late.

Read a dubious rumor (via Botchford) that involves PK Subban to Vancouver.
Would somehow involve Van taking James Neal off the Flames, with the sweetener of it's 1st rounder and a prospect like Dube.

Vancouver would then flip the 1st and prospect from Calgary, plus ??? to take PK's salary off of Nsh.

Thoughts?

Seems like a steep price to pay from Calgary's pov to get out from under Neal's contract.
Nashville i could see as interested in moving on from PK and bringing up Fabbro to play with Josi, Ekholm, Ellis and Hamhuis, et al.

I know people were discussing the potential trade for PK years ago and have likely soured on him now.
I'd be good with trading for him under certain conditions.
Trade Tanev for prospects/picks.
Trade Sutter and Eriksson (if we're acquiring Neal).
Trade the Calgary package plus Goldobin and Hutton for PK

Edler, Hughes, Stetcher, Subban is a much improved top 4 imo.

- dbot


I like Subban and do think he would improve the team and be really fun to watch even if he would be overpaid. I also have time for some of Botch's stuff, but none of that makes sense to me or seems plausible.

No way does Calgary give up that much to move Neal IMO. I also think I take Dube and an extra 1st plus whatever other picks and prospects we would need to add over Subban at this point of the rebuild.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 27 @ 10:50 PM ET
Dach would probably be the only one missing.
The US does a lot of short ice 3 on 3 when they are younger to promote creativity and individual skills like stick handling. I feel as if you are starting to see the effect of it in the American players.

- manvanfan


So a stud defenseman like Byram or a player like Lafreniere and Lavoie don't count?
Those were just 3 names off the top of my head, so I would think that there are several other higher end players that aren't on the team.
Funny how it was always said on here that these types of tournaments are not that important when assessing talent, until some on here overhype the Americans who have the advantage of team chemistry.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 10:54 PM ET
So a stud defenseman like Byram or a player like Lafreniere and Lavoie don't count?
Those were just 3 names off the top of my head, so I would think that there are several other higher end players that aren't on the team.
Funny how it was always said on here that these types of tournaments are not that important when assessing talent, until some on here overhype the Americans who have the advantage of team chemistry.

- Reubenkincade

U18 some players are too old
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 27 @ 10:58 PM ET
I like Subban and do think he would improve the team and be really fun to watch even if he would be overpaid. I also have time for some of Botch's stuff, but none of that makes sense to me or seems plausible.

No way does Calgary give up that much to move Neal IMO. I also think I take Dube and an extra 1st plus whatever other picks and prospects we would need to add over Subban at this point of the rebuild.

- belcherbd


Totally agree, seems odd from a lot of angles.
Food for thought.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 27 @ 11:01 PM ET
Apologies if this has been gone over before, i haven't been here very much of late.

Read a dubious rumor (via Botchford) that involves PK Subban to Vancouver.
Would somehow involve Van taking James Neal off the Flames, with the sweetener of it's 1st rounder and a prospect like Dube.

Vancouver would then flip the 1st and prospect from Calgary, plus ??? to take PK's salary off of Nsh.

Thoughts?

Seems like a steep price to pay from Calgary's pov to get out from under Neal's contract.
Nashville i could see as interested in moving on from PK and bringing up Fabbro to play with Josi, Ekholm, Ellis and Hamhuis, et al.

I know people were discussing the potential trade for PK years ago and have likely soured on him now.
I'd be good with trading for him under certain conditions.
Trade Tanev for prospects/picks.
Trade Sutter and Eriksson (if we're acquiring Neal).
Trade the Calgary package plus Goldobin and Hutton for PK

Edler, Hughes, Stetcher, Subban is a much improved top 4 imo.

- dbot

Jordan's feelings
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 11:03 PM ET
Totally agree, seems odd from a lot of angles.
Food for thought.

- dbot


Fair enough, this is the silly season.

There are always team who manage to get good players from teams in bad cap spots, here's hoping we can land one.

Leivo looks to be one already although that was more of a waivers thing than cap and I'm still gun shy on proclaiming him to be anything more than the rest of the scraps long term.

I wonder if he's a sell high candidate for another pick.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 27 @ 11:14 PM ET
U18 some players are too old
- Nighthawk


Fair point.
Lavoie is to old players like Byfield and Barron are not though.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 27 @ 11:22 PM ET
Fair point.
Lavoie is to old players like Byfield and Barron are not though.

- Reubenkincade

Who do you like 10oa out of this draft if say Hughes Kakko Byram Turcotte Zegras Boldy Dach are gone? Add 2 others you guess are gone while you are at it lol
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 27 @ 11:29 PM ET
So a stud defenseman like Byram or a player like Lafreniere and Lavoie don't count?
Those were just 3 names off the top of my head, so I would think that there are several other higher end players that aren't on the team.
Funny how it was always said on here that these types of tournaments are not that important when assessing talent, until some on here overhype the Americans who have the advantage of team chemistry.

- Reubenkincade

I don't seem to understand this. Nucker is able to understand what i'm talking about and gives a thumbs up and here's you who can't figure it out even slightly.
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