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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Jacob Trouba trade rumors re-surfacing and Buffalo should have the pieces
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washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 29 @ 4:47 PM ET
I take back all my DJ jokes about Bogo, literally dawg...this hit home yo:

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-hard-to-be-a-DJ
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 29 @ 4:49 PM ET
It's not pretty, but it didn't sneak up on them. Have to think they had a plan when they dealt for Stone. I'd be surprised if that was to deal Karlsson.
- Lunaion



Those NMC are going to be their undoing
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 29 @ 4:52 PM ET
I don’t think Trouba is a great idea for us

1) he’ll cost a lot to trade for

2) will he even want to sign here?

3) and if he does... at least 8mil per, right?

4) if Dahlin is who we think he is, do we NEED to pair him with a “Trouba” type guy?
-Hedman with Straalman
-Karlsson with (anyone really)
-Keith with Hjarmalsson
All these Star Defensemen didn’t need to play with another “Star” to be effective,
just a solid & steady partner
That’s the type of guy we should be looking to pair with Dahlin for the future-
not an $8mil guy

We need to use that $$$ up front

- jdfitz77


While I agree to some extent:

Rafalski and Lidstrom
Weber and Suter
Niedermeyer and Stevens

Even in your example, Karlsson is currently playing with another Norris winner in Burns

It would be the best d pairing the Sabres have ever seen, by a huge margin
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 29 @ 5:07 PM ET
While I agree to some extent:

Rafalski and Lidstrom
Weber and Suter
Niedermeyer and Stevens

Even in your example, Karlsson is currently playing with another Norris winner in Burns

It would be the best d pairing the Sabres have ever seen, by a huge margin

- jcragcrumple


Right above what u highlighted, u missed where i said,
“...do we NEED to pair Dahlin with a guy like Trouba?”

Sure, Trouba & Dahlin would at least be really good together...
But if Dahlin is gonna be as good as we all think, then i don’t think he NEEDS to play with another star

In the examples i gave, those teams were all loaded on defense- so of course great players will be matched up

If we were to acquire Trouba, or another guy of his caliber, I’d want him on the 2nd pair & not with Dahlin
That way we’d have 2 good pairs
I’m all about balance in the lineup

Also...
for Salary Cap reasons, i think we should spend that $$$ on scoring forwards

Also...
we have a good handful of talent coming on defense, and not much at forward

Trouba would be a sexy addition for sure
But looking long term,
I wouldn’t construct our roster that way
I’d prefer a guy like Manson with Dahlin
He’d be a solid partner & cost half of what Trouba would

Now if we are just developing defensemen to the point where Samuelsson, Laaksonen, Bryson, Borgen, (or whoever) become stars...
then great

I just don’t like being so top heavy
If Dahlin-Trouba is our top pair,
what’s the rest of the defense look like in a couple years?
Samuelsson-Montour
Pilut-Borgen
Something like that?

Looks good on paper...
but that’s a ton of youth in the lineup,
and Dahlin-Trouba would end up playing 35min a night
Over50
Location: Eyes without a face, NY
Joined: 02.23.2018

Apr 29 @ 5:08 PM ET
There's one thing that I have realized about many posters on this particular site.
And that one fact is that, there are many folks starving to have their egos stroked.
It's okay to be wrong folks.
It makes you an even better man when you can admit when you are in fact wrong.

Some of you literally, need to get off of yourselves. 🤷‍♂️

Mind you, it's not all posters here.
But there are enough of you and you all know whom you are.

Only one perfect being that I know, and His name is Jesus.
Remember that.

I mean, I can't even get through one page here without someone beating their chest about something.
Fyi; in reality, and to a trained eye, you present yourself as fragile and desperate for a nod of approval.

Anyway, when it comes to the Sabres?
I see Samson's name involved in made up trades by the many GM's here.
If it were me?
Samson remains a Sabre.
I wouldn't include him in a trade for Trouba but hey, that's just my humble opinion.
I don't think that Samson's game has hit its peak yet.
He'd be that ex Sabre that becomes a future Sabre killer.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 29 @ 5:13 PM ET
There's one thing that I have realized about many posters on this particular site.
And that one fact is that, there are many folks starving to have their egos stroked.
It's okay to be wrong folks.
It makes you an even better man when you can admit when you are in fact wrong.

Some of you literally, need to get off of yourselves. 🤷‍♂️

Mind you, it's not all posters here.
But there are enough of you and you all know whom you are.

Only one perfect being that I know, and His name is Jesus.
Remember that.

I mean, I can't even get through one page here without someone beating their chest about something.
Fyi; in reality, and to a trained eye, you present yourself as fragile and desperate for a nod of approval.

Anyway, when it comes to the Sabres?
I see Samson's name involved in made up trades by the many GM's here.
If it were me?
Samson remains a Sabre.
I wouldn't include him in a trade for Trouba but hey, that's just my humble opinion.
I don't think that Samson's game has hit its peak yet.
He'd be that ex Sabre that becomes a future Sabre killer.

- Over50


It’s just a message board
Don’t take it too seriously sir
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 29 @ 5:23 PM ET
Right above what u highlighted, u missed where i said,
“...do we NEED to pair Dahlin with a guy like Trouba?”

Sure, Trouba & Dahlin would at least be really good together...
But if Dahlin is gonna be as good as we all think, then i don’t think he NEEDS to play with another star

In the examples i gave, those teams were all loaded on defense- so of course great players will be matched up

If we were to acquire Trouba, or another guy of his caliber, I’d want him on the 2nd pair & not with Dahlin
That way we’d have 2 good pairs
I’m all about balance in the lineup

Also...
for Salary Cap reasons, i think we should spend that $$$ on scoring forwards

Also...
we have a good handful of talent coming on defense, and not much at forward

Trouba would be a sexy addition for sure
But looking long term,
I wouldn’t construct our roster that way
I’d prefer a guy like Manson with Dahlin
He’d be a solid partner & cost half of what Trouba would

Now if we are just developing defensemen to the point where Samuelsson, Laaksonen, Bryson, Borgen, (or whoever) become stars...
then great

I just don’t like being so top heavy
If Dahlin-Trouba is our top pair,
what’s the rest of the defense look like in a couple years?
Samuelsson-Montour
Pilut-Borgen
Something like that?

Looks good on paper...
but that’s a ton of youth in the lineup,
and Dahlin-Trouba would end up playing 35min a night

- jdfitz77


There are, of course, different ways to build a roster
Do we need Trouba? YMMV, but it would without a doubt be the best pairing we've ever had. Even if they don't play together, then you're looking at 2 different top-pairing guys on different pairs. It would be absurdly good
c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

Apr 29 @ 5:32 PM ET
According to what John Wawrow (Don't know who that is) said; Not really sure what those "Jacques Martin being a leading candidate for Sabres Job" were all about.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 29 @ 6:02 PM ET
2016-2017

- TheSabresTaco



2016-17. ( -9)
2017-18 (-25)
2018-19 (-41)

Plus minus backs my point
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 29 @ 6:09 PM ET
There's one thing that I have realized about many posters on this particular site.
And that one fact is that, there are many folks starving to have their egos stroked.
It's okay to be wrong folks.
It makes you an even better man when you can admit when you are in fact wrong.

Some of you literally, need to get off of yourselves. 🤷‍♂️

Mind you, it's not all posters here.
But there are enough of you and you all know whom you are.

Only one perfect being that I know, and His name is Jesus.
Remember that.

I mean, I can't even get through one page here without someone beating their chest about something.
Fyi; in reality, and to a trained eye, you present yourself as fragile and desperate for a nod of approval.

Anyway, when it comes to the Sabres?
I see Samson's name involved in made up trades by the many GM's here.
If it were me?
Samson remains a Sabre.
I wouldn't include him in a trade for Trouba but hey, that's just my humble opinion.
I don't think that Samson's game has hit its peak yet.
He'd be that ex Sabre that becomes a future Sabre killer.

- Over50


My opinion is that

Sam is not physical enough to play nhl playoff hockey.

Of all of the players in trade discussions on this board, I'm the least worried about him haunting us.

He is soft and is part of our soft culture
He has good trade value

islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Apr 29 @ 6:12 PM ET
2016-17. ( -9)
2017-18 (-25)
2018-19 (-41)

Plus minus backs my point

- Boss34

This is another reason why the Jets pass on Risto being a part of the package for Trouba.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
This is another reason why the Jets pass on Risto being a part of the package for Trouba.
- islansjet



Yeah, but check out the chart with all the colors above.

It's pretty spiffy

But, going to the games: risto has regressed to the naked eye
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Apr 29 @ 6:27 PM ET
Todd Richards!
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 29 @ 6:30 PM ET
Todd Richards!
- Irish 14



Todd Rundgren!
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 29 @ 6:30 PM ET
There's one thing that I have realized about many posters on this particular site.
And that one fact is that, there are many folks starving to have their egos stroked.
It's okay to be wrong folks.
It makes you an even better man when you can admit when you are in fact wrong.

Some of you literally, need to get off of yourselves. 🤷‍♂️

Mind you, it's not all posters here.
But there are enough of you and you all know whom you are.

Only one perfect being that I know, and His name is Jesus.
Remember that.

I mean, I can't even get through one page here without someone beating their chest about something.
Fyi; in reality, and to a trained eye, you present yourself as fragile and desperate for a nod of approval.

Anyway, when it comes to the Sabres?
I see Samson's name involved in made up trades by the many GM's here.
If it were me?
Samson remains a Sabre.
I wouldn't include him in a trade for Trouba but hey, that's just my humble opinion.
I don't think that Samson's game has hit its peak yet.
He'd be that ex Sabre that becomes a future Sabre killer.

- Over50

Yeah, he lives over on the West-Side. Best coke in Buffalo.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 29 @ 6:43 PM ET
There's one thing that I have realized about many posters on this particular site.
And that one fact is that, there are many folks starving to have their egos stroked.
It's okay to be wrong folks.
It makes you an even better man when you can admit when you are in fact wrong.

Some of you literally, need to get off of yourselves. 🤷‍♂️

Mind you, it's not all posters here.
But there are enough of you and you all know whom you are.

Only one perfect being that I know, and His name is Jesus.
Remember that.

I mean, I can't even get through one page here without someone beating their chest about something.
Fyi; in reality, and to a trained eye, you present yourself as fragile and desperate for a nod of approval.

Anyway, when it comes to the Sabres?
I see Samson's name involved in made up trades by the many GM's here.
If it were me?
Samson remains a Sabre.
I wouldn't include him in a trade for Trouba but hey, that's just my humble opinion.
I don't think that Samson's game has hit its peak yet.
He'd be that ex Sabre that becomes a future Sabre killer.

- Over50



The Catholic Church is looking for born again preachers, HUGE market
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 29 @ 6:50 PM ET
The Catholic Church is looking for born again preachers, HUGE market
- washedup20

That's a good team over there.
Over50
Location: Eyes without a face, NY
Joined: 02.23.2018

Apr 29 @ 7:01 PM ET
It’s just a message board
Don’t take it too seriously sir

- jdfitz77

You see, that's literally the problem with some here; they take it way too "seriously", literally.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 29 @ 7:02 PM ET
There's one thing that I have realized about many posters on this particular site.
And that one fact is that, there are many folks starving to have their egos stroked.
It's okay to be wrong folks.
It makes you an even better man when you can admit when you are in fact wrong.

Some of you literally, need to get off of yourselves. 🤷‍♂️

Mind you, it's not all posters here.
But there are enough of you and you all know whom you are.

Only one perfect being that I know, and His name is Jesus.
Remember that.

I mean, I can't even get through one page here without someone beating their chest about something.
Fyi; in reality, and to a trained eye, you present yourself as fragile and desperate for a nod of approval.

Anyway, when it comes to the Sabres?
I see Samson's name involved in made up trades by the many GM's here.
If it were me?
Samson remains a Sabre.
I wouldn't include him in a trade for Trouba but hey, that's just my humble opinion.
I don't think that Samson's game has hit its peak yet.
He'd be that ex Sabre that becomes a future Sabre killer.

- Over50


I don’t see the point of the advice of the peanut gallery. I am self absorbed and am not ashamed of it. This is a message board and people come here to bicker. Some people like to defend their view points. At this time last year I said we should of traded Scandella and got laughed at so I patted my self on the back. I was way off in saying that Mittelstadt would be a 50 point player in this league and have admitted that several times. It spurs good discussion, people are passionate about their respective viewpoints. If this place was people that just got along and had all of the same view points then there would be no point in coming here. If you don’t like the “ego stroking” nobody is forcing you to be here, sir.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 29 @ 7:14 PM ET
I don’t see the point of the advice of the peanut gallery. I am self absorbed and am not ashamed of it. This is a message board and people come here to bicker. Some people like to defend their view points. At this time last year I said we should of traded Scandella and got laughed at so I patted my self on the back. I was way off in saying that Mittelstadt would be a 50 point player in this league and have admitted that several times. It spurs good discussion, people are passionate about their respective viewpoints. If this place was people that just got along and had all of the same view points then there would be no point in coming here. If you don’t like the “ego stroking” nobody is forcing you to be here, sir.
- Pegullaville

Are these Taylor Swift lyrics?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 29 @ 7:17 PM ET
Are these Taylor Swift lyrics?
- BeadyEyedDouche


No those will come when my 2 year relationship ends due to my constant desperate attempts for approval.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 29 @ 7:18 PM ET
Are these Taylor Swift lyrics?
- BeadyEyedDouche

That's a good team over there
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 29 @ 7:38 PM ET
Jets sabres and Sens should talk to each other. Sens need rhd plus other positions, jets need lhd, and sabres need Trouba.

Sens send lhd to jets, jets send Trouba to Sabres, sabres send risto to Sens plus something to jets

- kaptaan


And Sens send so nothing to Sabres
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Apr 29 @ 7:44 PM ET
Todd Rundgren!
- Powerslave


“Think of me, you know I be with you if
I could”
Great tune!
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Apr 29 @ 7:56 PM ET
My opinion is that

Sam is not physical enough to play nhl playoff hockey.

Of all of the players in trade discussions on this board, I'm the least worried about him haunting us.

He is soft and is part of our soft culture
He has good trade value

- Boss34


What about Jesus, though?
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