Wise to try dumb not to
- Nighthawk

i won't fault you for having hope, but lets face it man, you are going to get some ribbing for pencilling him into the Canucks 6. Just gotta sit back and take it

i won't fault you for having hope, but lets face it man, you are going to get some ribbing for pencilling him into the Canucks 6. Just gotta sit back and take it
- Codes1087

If being proactive on talent is a bad thing so be it. Rather that than be a paranoid on NCAA prospects. Yer ears on David?

If being proactive on talent is a bad thing so be it. Rather that than be a paranoid on NCAA prospects. Yer ears on David?
- Nighthawk

My name is Codes

My name is Codes
- Codes1087

Was a 2 fold post

Leave Nighthawk alone


He’s just putting suggestions out there to improve the team. Easy to criticize when you guys don’t offer your own suggestions!

There's money involved in winning a league award. If age is the qualifying factor you're eventualy going to have some guy who's a few months over the age limit be disqualified and his lawyer will argue that its arbitrary and unfair.

Limiting candidates based on number of professional games played in any league creates a disparity between the euros and the CHL guys.

It's not sexy to reference the CBA , but if you want to make the award strictly for surprising young kids like Petterson, being on your ELC could be a reasonable criteria. Seems to be what most people want.
- YeOldTimer

How is age discrimination for a league award fundamentally different than age discrimination for the entry draft?

Definitely there is a mis-match with some players (like Makarov and Hlinka many years ago) who were able to play professional hockey in other leagues (SM played 11 years at CSKA Moscow prior to joining the NHL) and were still eligible for consideration vs 17-20 years old in their first real pro season.

Leave Nighthawk alone


He’s just putting suggestions out there to improve the team. Easy to criticize when you guys don’t offer your own suggestions!
- Nucker101

(To be fair it was a silly suggestion though )

Leave Nighthawk alone


He’s just putting suggestions out there to improve the team. Easy to criticize when you guys don’t offer your own suggestions!
- Nucker101

#feelings

but in all seriousness, i don't think its out of line to rib someone on here for that, as long as its in good fun. No different in my opinion than poking fun at people who had Panarin or Karlsson or Duchene pencilled in the Canucks 2019/2020.

And to counter your point above about suggestions. The people that are on the opposite end of the spectrum are suggesting that the Canucks don't go after anyone, so its hard to offer suggestions when you want the Canucks to stand pat and not do anything drastic

Leave Nighthawk alone


He’s just putting suggestions out there to improve the team. Easy to criticize when you guys don’t offer your own suggestions!
- Nucker101

Any GM not exploring every option isn’t worth poop. Until JB is asked if he tried & the words come out of his mouth if he did or not i can wait. Nothing has been lost. The 2nd & conditional does look like there is more going on than we know yet.

#feelings

but in all seriousness, i don't think its out of line to rib someone on here for that, as long as its in good fun. No different in my opinion than poking fun at people who had Panarin or Karlsson or Duchene pencilled in the Canucks 2019/2020.

And to counter your point above about suggestions. The people that are on the opposite end of the spectrum are suggesting that the Canucks don't go after anyone, so its hard to offer suggestions when you want the Canucks to stand pat and not do anything drastic
- Codes1087

To me suggesting the team to absolutely nothing is equally as absurd as suggestion they sign Panarin Karlsson and Bobrovsky honestly. You have to do things other than wait to make your team better, otherwise what do we even need a GM for?

Any GM not exploring every option isn’t worth poop. Until JB is asked if he tried & the words come out of his mouth if he did or not i can wait. Nothing has been lost. The 2nd & conditional does look like there is more going on than we know yet.
- Nighthawk

he can't say now or else that would be tampering, and he won't say that he tried once Fox has been signed and is playing. My guess is that he won't ever say if he did or didn't

Any GM not exploring every option isn’t worth poop. Until JB is asked if he tried & the words come out of his mouth if he did or not i can wait. Nothing has been lost. The 2nd & conditional does look like there is more going on than we know yet.
- Nighthawk

#feelings

but in all seriousness, i don't think its out of line to rib someone on here for that, as long as its in good fun. No different in my opinion than poking fun at people who had Panarin or Karlsson or Duchene pencilled in the Canucks 2019/2020.

And to counter your point above about suggestions. The people that are on the opposite end of the spectrum are suggesting that the Canucks don't go after anyone, so its hard to offer suggestions when you want the Canucks to stand pat and not do anything drastic
- Codes1087

Rib me all you want i can take it.
Pencilled in is an overstatement when a Panarin is legit elite talent & should be approached with an offer by any team that can afford him.

To me suggesting the team to absolutely nothing is equally as absurd as suggestion they sign Panarin Karlsson and Bobrovsky honestly. You have to do things other than wait to make your team better, otherwise what do we even need a GM for?
- NorthNuck

ill agree to disagree. In a cap-run league, signing players to large AAV/Term contracts often/can put a team further back than it does put them ahead. At this stage of the Canucks "rebuild", I would rather them do nothing at all then sign a free agent that is going to demand upwards or above 7 or 8 million in AAV, because you know term will be added to that contract.

he can't say now or else that would be tampering, and he won't say that he tried once Fox has been signed and is playing. My guess is that he won't ever say if he did or didn't
- Codes1087

I can still wait lol

Rib me all you want i can take it.
Pencilled in is an overstatement when a Panarin is legit elite talent & should be approached with an offer by any team that can afford him.
- Nighthawk

i won't make fun of you for having hope, nothing wrong with that. I was preaching that the Canucks stay away from Tkachuk in the 2016 draft, and I could not have been more wrong. As long as it doesn't get out of hand, a little ribbing never hurt anyone

Eli Manning, same thing.
- VanHockeyGuy

Steve Francis?

ill agree to disagree. In a cap-run league, signing players to large AAV/Term contracts often/can put a team further back than it does put them ahead. At this stage of the Canucks "rebuild", I would rather them do nothing at all then sign a free agent that is going to demand upwards or above 7 or 8 million in AAV, because you know term will be added to that contract.
- Codes1087

Regardless of the big name/big value guys people here have said to do NOTHING in free agency. If you don't go sign free agents you have to play Pouliot, Granlund, Schaller, etc. which I've also heard many say they don't want.

Have to do SOMEthing

ill agree to disagree. In a cap-run league, signing players to large AAV/Term contracts often/can put a team further back than it does put them ahead. At this stage of the Canucks "rebuild", I would rather them do nothing at all then sign a free agent that is going to demand upwards or above 7 or 8 million in AAV, because you know term will be added to that contract.
- Codes1087

How does any team afford it then?
Are you saying not bothering to do anything is building somehow? Makes no sense.

Steve Francis?
- dbot

a real POS, that one.

Regardless of the big name/big value guys people here have said to do NOTHING in free agency. If you don't go sign free agents you have to play Pouliot, Granlund, Schaller, etc. which I've also heard many say they don't want.

Have to do SOMEthing
- NorthNuck

Schaller was one of those free agents though lol.

Again, if they want to take a run at a lower-end free agent, im all for it. As long as it doesn't significantly impact us in AAV or term, id be open to it, but again, I wouldn't whine or complain if the Canucks didn't do anything drastic in free agency, and again, would encourage it.

Regardless of the big name/big value guys people here have said to do NOTHING in free agency. If you don't go sign free agents you have to play Pouliot, Granlund, Schaller, etc. which I've also heard many say they don't want.

Have to do SOMEthing
- NorthNuck

100%

How does any team afford it then?
Are you saying not bothering to do anything is building somehow? Makes no sense.
- Nighthawk

teams can afford them, obviously. Canucks can afford any of the top free agents this summer. I personally just don't think the timing is right to land any of them. And again, we have an abundance of cap now, which is great, but it won't be long before we have to start paying the Boesers/Petterssons/Hughes's of the team. I imagine TOR is thinking twice about Zaitsev (free agent) and Marleau (free agent) now, Id rather avoid that situation entirely.

Schaller was one of those free agents though lol.

Again, if they want to take a run at a lower-end free agent, im all for it. As long as it doesn't significantly impact us in AAV or term, id be open to it, but again, I wouldn't whine or complain if the Canucks didn't do anything drastic in free agency, and again, would encourage it.
- Codes1087

I’ll take Panarin & his AAV/term 👍

I’ll take Panarin & his AAV/term 👍
- Nighthawk

that's fine, that's your opinion and I respect it