The player, I would be targeting to move would be the "Big Dog", Byfuglien. The man is 34 years old and will soon become our version of Brent Seabrook. When I speak about asset management, we are never going to get a larger return for Byfuglien than we will now.
- TheUltimateJet

The big dog won’t be going anywhere. The big dog, according to a big dog family friend won’t be leaving Wpg until retirement.

IDK, former Conn Smythe, Hart, and Art Ross trophy winner on our team. I don't think this franchise since coming to Winnipeg has ever had someone like that. The guy got 40 goals out of James Neal and continually makes players around him better. Would love to see what guys like Connor, Ehlers, and laine do with a center like that.

Imagine the Power Play of Malkin, Wheeler, Scheifele, Laine, and a declining Byfuglien.
- TheUltimateJet

Yes, that’s what will propel Wpg over the top, a 34 yo disgruntled superstar that wants to prove a point by coming to Wpg to make everyone around him better.

That’s what Wpg needs, lol.

Sorry to crap all over 2.0’s suggestion but this is likely his one and only red herring that he presented on HB since he has been posting.

Sorry 2.0, my thinking usually lines up with what you are saying but I am not so sure on this one.

Yes, that’s what will propel Wpg over the top, a 34 yo disgruntled superstar that wants to prove a point by coming to Wpg to make everyone around him better.

That’s what Wpg needs, lol.

Sorry to crap all over 2.0’s suggestion but this is likely his one and only red herring that he presented on HB since he has been posting.

Sorry 2.0, my thinking usually lines up with what you are saying but I am not so sure on this one.
- CharlieDog

lol - no offense taken. Trade talk from fans is all fools gold, mine included. The scenario that would make sense would be if the allegedly fractured jets room involves Buff and he is deemed more part of the problem than the solution. Then you would be trading away an issue and it's not only adding an issue.

As for Malkin - he has escaped scrutiny in the past by playing well in the shadow of Crosby and Crosby's leadership. Who knows what leadership would emerge in a new situation. The best may come out with a new team as the group dynamics would be different and he would have a chance to start fresh.

Kuznetsov was eliminated in the first round. The man has also had 2 70+ point seasons in the NHL the last 3 years.

Kreijci is a first line center. Its deployment for him, much like the case that O'Reilly had last year with Buffalo. He consistently makes his line mates better, see - Jake Debrusk.

Did not realize that Hertl superseded Pavelski and Couture and if that's the case they really have depth at center.

Pierre Luc Dubois and Matt Duchene, really you want me to go there?

St. Louis with Schenn and O'Reilly, we just watched them beat our Jets last round.

C'mon Ross, you have to do better that that! And, until Carolina wins a cup, my assessment is accurate.
- TheUltimateJet

-DeBrusk is the driver on that line, and David Krejci is not a 1C
-Pavelski has been on the wing all year
-Oscar Sundqvist is the 2C in St. Louis
-Duchene is not a 1C

Krejci
Hinz or Faksa
Soderberg
Kuznetzov
Hertl
Sundquist
Nelson
Staal

here is your list of 2nd line centers currently in the playoffs, you honestly think this list is head and shoulders above Little? common!!! some are better, some are worse. my point is your whole have to have centers argument holds no water.

also, Staal in Carlolina is proof that yes, Copp and Lowry can be your 2nd line center
- Ross77

Staal is a perfect Lowry comparable. Defensively elite, drives play, generates no offence on his own

Schenn and o'reily played half the series together, actually you have to better than this!!!
these teams are not winning based on centers, not sure how you cant see that?
- Ross77

Crosby and Malkin played together for long stretches too when they won cups! What's your point?

The big dog won’t be going anywhere. The big dog, according to a big dog family friend won’t be leaving Wpg until retirement.
- CharlieDog

His full NMC expires June 30, 2019. If the Big Dog has this much say it's concerning, as it completely undermines Cheveldayoff. Who is running the show?

-DeBrusk is the driver on that line, and David Krejci is not a 1C
-Pavelski has been on the wing all year
-Oscar Sundqvist is the 2C in St. Louis
-Duchene is not a 1C
- Rexypoo

Duchene who has been ppg player since January 1, 2018 isn't number 1? Wow!

Rexypoo like lots of poster on this site, you have proven you don't watch much hockey outside of Jets hockey.

The big dog won’t be going anywhere. The big dog, according to a big dog family friend won’t be leaving Wpg until retirement.
- CharlieDog

and I am fine with that.

His full NMC expires June 30, 2019. If the Big Dog has this much say it's concerning, as it completely undermines Cheveldayoff. Who is running the show?
- TheUltimateJet

Chipman

Duchene who has been ppg player since January 1, 2018 isn't number 1? Wow!

Rexypoo like lots of poster on this site, you have proven you don't watch much hockey outside of Jets hockey.
- TheUltimateJet

he put up 12 points his last 25 games of the year, this is only the 2nd year in the past 10 he has gone over 60. so if 60 points is your new standard for #1 centers, then Matty Duchene is probably one of the worst in the league.

I'd like to know what the Winnipeg Jets vision is to win the stanley cup.
They don't play a run and gun system to outscore an opponent. They don't play a sound defensive system to shut down an opponent
The best I think they do is throw a bunch of players together and use hope and prayer for success.
- BWJumper

this is an excellent question, the answer is easy, "play our game" as said by every jet after every game

he put up 12 points his last 25 games of the year, this is only the 2nd year in the past 10 he has gone over 60. so if 60 points is your new standard for #1 centers, then Matty Duchene is probably one of the worst in the league.
- Ross77

He got 70 points in 73 games this year! Are you sure you know how to do math?

This is almost as bad as 2.0 telling me that O’Reilly was terrible because he hadn’t got 70 points up Until this year.

His full NMC expires June 30, 2019. If the Big Dog has this much say it's concerning, as it completely undermines Cheveldayoff. Who is running the show?
- TheUltimateJet

Don't imagine that Mr Chipman or Chevy were too impressed that Buff did not attend the last "player's availability." This may hasten his move away from the Jets - like July 1.
Not sure why the Jets would want Malkin, who once was my favorite player - the guy is 33 in July and has only played 78 games once since 2008-09 I believe. Plus big ticket. "No" for me!
Not sure how they divvy the loot this season, but like someone said, they need to make sure they leave enough for Morrissey (and Niku).
So Scheifele makes 6.1M and Ehlers makes 6.0M - and they're talking a lot more for Laine? Wonder how that will play out in the room? Laine not one more dollar than Connor IMO - or do they trade a forward for cap space reasons?

Don't imagine that Mr Chipman or Chevy were too impressed that Buff did not attend the last "player's availability." This may hasten his move away from the Jets - like July 1.
Not sure why the Jets would want Malkin, who once was my favorite player - the guy is 33 in July and has only played 78 games once since 2008-09 I believe. Plus big ticket. "No" for me!
Not sure how they divvy the loot this season, but like someone said, they need to make sure they leave enough for Morrissey (and Niku).
So Scheifele makes 6.1M and Ehlers makes 6.0M - and they're talking a lot more for Laine? Wonder how that will play out in the room? Laine not one more dollar than Connor IMO - or do they trade a forward for cap space reasons?
- grahamzky

Great points

Don't imagine that Mr Chipman or Chevy were too impressed that Buff did not attend the last "player's availability." This may hasten his move away from the Jets - like July 1.
Not sure why the Jets would want Malkin, who once was my favorite player - the guy is 33 in July and has only played 78 games once since 2008-09 I believe. Plus big ticket. "No" for me!
Not sure how they divvy the loot this season, but like someone said, they need to make sure they leave enough for Morrissey (and Niku).
So Scheifele makes 6.1M and Ehlers makes 6.0M - and they're talking a lot more for Laine? Wonder how that will play out in the room? Laine not one more dollar than Connor IMO - or do they trade a forward for cap space reasons?
- grahamzky

Niku's contract is up next year and unless an injury happens he won't merit a big raise.
As for Malkin, the Jets only need him to be healthy for the playoffs, and it shows a willingness of the Jets to try something bold. Keeping the status quo hasn't worked out for the Jets.

He got 70 points in 73 games this year! Are you sure you know how to do math?

This is almost as bad as 2.0 telling me that O’Reilly was terrible because he hadn’t got 70 points up Until this year.
- TheUltimateJet

Did you read what I said? I wrote this is the 2nd time in the past ten years he’s gone over 60. So yes ultimate 73 is more than 60 that’s what I wrote. And he’s only gone over 60 twice in ten years. Understand now?

Did you read what I said? I wrote this is the 2nd time in the past ten years he’s gone over 60. So yes ultimate 73 is more than 60 that’s what I wrote. And he’s only gone over 60 twice in ten years. Understand now?
- Ross77

He’s also not that good away from the puck. Play driving and defensive play aren’t top level. Combine that with what you said, his age, and his reputation for not using linemates effectively...

He’s also not that good away from the puck. Play driving and defensive play aren’t top level. Combine that with what you said, his age, and his reputation for not using linemates effectively...
- Rexypoo

And don’t forget the tapes from the cabbie, lol

Don't imagine that Mr Chipman or Chevy were too impressed that Buff did not attend the last "player's availability." This may hasten his move away from the Jets - like July 1.
Not sure why the Jets would want Malkin, who once was my favorite player - the guy is 33 in July and has only played 78 games once since 2008-09 I believe. Plus big ticket. "No" for me!
Not sure how they divvy the loot this season, but like someone said, they need to make sure they leave enough for Morrissey (and Niku).
So Scheifele makes 6.1M and Ehlers makes 6.0M - and they're talking a lot more for Laine? Wonder how that will play out in the room? Laine not one more dollar than Connor IMO - or do they trade a forward for cap space reasons?
- grahamzky

Connor should be the sacrificial lamb, if cap space is a concern.
Having said that, Laine will absolutely get more than Scheifele and Ehlers. Scheifele wasn’t a top level player when he signed, and Ehlers only had 1 top level season under his belt for his deal.
Laine has outscored both, and is younger

He’s also not that good away from the puck. Play driving and defensive play aren’t top level. Combine that with what you said, his age, and his reputation for not using linemates effectively...
- Rexypoo

You clearly have never watched him play. Stick to the spreadsheets Rexypoo.

And don’t forget the tapes from the cabbie, lol
- Ross77

That was classless on the Cabbies part. All players from all teams complain about coaches. This just happened to get caught on tape.

Did you read what I said? I wrote this is the 2nd time in the past ten years he’s gone over 60. So yes ultimate 73 is more than 60 that’s what I wrote. And he’s only gone over 60 twice in ten years. Understand now?
- Ross77

70 points this last season. PPG player since he got comfortable in Ottawa. Something wasn’t right in Colorado, see Stastny and O’Reilly as other examples. Also Duchene gets constant invites to team Canada.

I guess you, Rexypoo and 2.0 know more about hockey than the brass at Hockey Canada.

Niku's contract is up next year and unless an injury happens he won't merit a big raise.
As for Malkin, the Jets only need him to be healthy for the playoffs, and it shows a willingness of the Jets to try something bold. Keeping the status quo hasn't worked out for the Jets.
- BWJumper

Great points BW

Chevy’s strategy should be simple, focus on the cap!!! Salaries are getting out of control!!

Don’t trade for guys who are soon to be RFA’s, trade for guys who are underpaid in today’s market.

Examples;
First, Consider this, Trouba will want 7+, Connor will want minimum 7, Ehlers makes 6. Trade Trouba for Trocheck and a pick then see if you can trade one of Connor or Ehlers for Klefbom and a pick. Not sure if these teams would add or include a pick but I can hope. In these sceneries we are trading roughly 13-14 million in cap space for guys under contract for 4 years at under 9!!! The difference between Trouba/Connor and Trocheck/Klefbom is minimal, saving 5 million and possibly adding two picks, that’s huge!!!!