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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 1 @ 7:48 AM ET
I like the idea of Foote as well, but think it would be near impossible to get him out of there.
The 3 old guys on D are all UFA'S and each over 32, providing much needed Cap space of $11m to sign Point and pay the increases to Gourde and Kucherov.
They need to backfill those D spots with young, cost controlled players, to which Foote is one of them. Risto and Callahan are a relative wash, Nelson fills another D hole cheaply.

Cirelli at 21, with 100 games under his belt is ready to break out after a season of 19/20/39.
I'd like him on Sabres, but decided to use his attractivenesss to be a major piece in getting the 2 out of LV and providing the Knights with cap space they need as well.

- IonSabres



Risto 43 points for $5.4M
Callahan 17 points for $5.6M
“Relative wash”

Welcome to Buffalo, where everything we have sucks.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 1 @ 8:00 AM ET
Risto 43 points for $5.4M
Callahan 17 points for $5.6M
“Relative wash”

Welcome to Buffalo, where everything we have sucks.

- Der Kaiser

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 8:02 AM ET
Rasmus Risto & Casey Nelson
for
Anthony Cirelli, Mathiue Joseph, Ryan Callahan

Then
Cirelli, 2019 StL/SJS pick, Alex Nylander/Tage Thompson
For William Karlson & Alex Tuch

Sign Stralman and Girardi, 1 for 2 yrs, 1 for the other, at $2.75 - $3.0 per

Hire Gonberg, they're going to need him...

Olofsson - Eichel - Sam
Skinner - Karlson - Tuck
Sherry - Mitts - Joseph
Okposo - Erod - Callahan/Sobotka
Callahan/Sobotka

Dahlin - Stralman/Girardi
Scandella - Montour
Pilut - Stralman/Girardi
Borgen, Bogo (when healthy)

And off the books after next season
Callahan
Sobotka
Sherry
Bogo
Scandella

- IonSabres


Stralman has not been good this year. He's declining hard.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 1 @ 8:11 AM ET
Why people think we need to take Callahan back in any deal is stupid also, who says Risto is getting traded and if he will go to the Bolts. Tampa's problems are Tampa 's problems, we don't need to take Callahan back or any player like that to make a deal.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 1 @ 8:12 AM ET
Risto 43 points for $5.4M
Callahan 17 points for $5.6M
“Relative wash”

Welcome to Buffalo, where everything we have sucks.

- Der Kaiser


Hey, try reading better.
Wash, as in Cap space,
Relative meaning the difference between them isn't significant when looking at contract values of $5.0+.

But you do you.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 1 @ 8:13 AM ET

- SabresFaninIndiana


It was a stupid comment looking to stir the poop like he always does.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 1 @ 8:15 AM ET
Stralman has not been good this year. He's declining hard.
- TheSabresTaco


Yes, he had a difficult year.
I'd be fine signing another stay at home partner for Dahlin on the short-term until their cap space opens better after next year.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 1 @ 8:19 AM ET
Risto 43 points for $5.4M
Callahan 17 points for $5.6M
“Relative wash”

Welcome to Buffalo, where everything we have sucks.

- Der Kaiser


And one is 24 🤔
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 1 @ 8:22 AM ET
Why people think we need to take Callahan back in any deal is stupid also, who says Risto is getting traded and if he will go to the Bolts. Tampa's problems are Tampa 's problems, we don't need to take Callahan back or any player like that to make a deal.
- SABRES 89


If they get Young pieces such as Foote and Cirelli

That’s why you would take him
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 1 @ 8:25 AM ET
Why people think we need to take Callahan back in any deal is stupid also, who says Risto is getting traded and if he will go to the Bolts. Tampa's problems are Tampa 's problems, we don't need to take Callahan back or any player like that to make a deal.
- SABRES 89


I stand by it.
It's 1 friggin year, then the Cap space is incredible.
Meanwhile, the combined deals fill 3 of the middle six and allows them to save on Girgensons contract over the next 12 months and beyond.
Callahan, while old and playing as 13th F produced better than Girg's did playing 82 games.
He is still a leader and could be an important voice in the locker room so obviously devoid of good leadership.

The net of the deal brings in about 50 G's at the expense of a defensively liable Dman, who btw is now redundant on the PP with Montour.

The time to deal Risto is now...his value IS declining and will accelerate when he is getting 50% of the PP points he had. So, count on him generating mid thirtysomething rather than mid 40's.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 1 @ 8:27 AM ET
And one is 24 🤔
- gerbe75pts


Rolls eyes.
Like he would be part of the long-term plan.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 1 @ 8:30 AM ET
If they get Young pieces such as Foote and Cirelli

That’s why you would take him

- gerbe75pts


Bingo.
Some can't see the forest through the trees.

And Foote isn't going anywhere. They need his ELC to fill out their D when the walk from
Coburn, Girardi and Stralman.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 1 @ 8:46 AM ET
Bingo.
Some can't see the forest through the trees.

And Foote isn't going anywhere. They need his ELC to fill out their D when the walk from
Coburn, Girardi and Stralman.

- IonSabres


If Foote is not added they should walk away they got taken by the blues when they had all the power They can’t do it this time too.

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 1 @ 8:49 AM ET
I stand by it.
It's 1 friggin year, then the Cap space is incredible.
Meanwhile, the combined deals fill 3 of the middle six and allows them to save on Girgensons contract over the next 12 months and beyond.
Callahan, while old and playing as 13th F produced better than Girg's did playing 82 games.
He is still a leader and could be an important voice in the locker room so obviously devoid of good leadership.

The net of the deal brings in about 50 G's at the expense of a defensively liable Dman, who btw is now redundant on the PP with Montour.

The time to deal Risto is now...his value IS declining and will accelerate when he is getting 50% of the PP points he had. So, count on him generating mid thirtysomething rather than mid 40's.

- IonSabres

You guys are going to be upset when he's not moved and no way we will take Callahan back.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 1 @ 8:50 AM ET
Bingo.
Some can't see the forest through the trees.

And Foote isn't going anywhere. They need his ELC to fill out their D when the walk from
Coburn, Girardi and Stralman.

- IonSabres

Some can't see through the SMOG that Callahan is done and Botterill won't throw money away. You can argue that point all day long with me.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

May 1 @ 8:51 AM ET
So, Adam Fox to the Rags for a 2nd and a conditional 3rd. I would like to have been in on him but not sure I'd part with the late 1st for him. What say you guys?
- PrinceChill


Fox is a very nice player but I think he has said no to two teams and you can get a bad rep fast doing stuff like that. We have some nice dmen in the system right now and I would even say that I prefer Laaksonen to Fox at this point.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 1 @ 8:53 AM ET
You guys are going to be upset when he's not moved and no way we will take Callahan back.
- SABRES 89


I mean you said that last year about ROR Nothing against you but he’s been here for 6 years doesn’t listen to the coaches anymore ... has not improved this is basically his calling he’s done trade him before teams realize he Hit his potential
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 8:53 AM ET
Why people think we need to take Callahan back in any deal is stupid also, who says Risto is getting traded and if he will go to the Bolts. Tampa's problems are Tampa 's problems, we don't need to take Callahan back or any player like that to make a deal.
- SABRES 89


No, you're right, we don't need to. But this is what we do here. We pine for players to trade, trade for, make offers we think sorta make sense, and apply cap dumps to sweeten deals. So no, no one needs to really make any offers. But we do, because we can, because America.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 1 @ 8:53 AM ET
If Foote is not added they should walk away they got taken by the blues when they had all the power They can’t do it this time too.
- gerbe75pts

we didn't have all the power.. the player pretty much asked to be traded in public and everyone knew it. on top of that i believe JB was told to trade him before we had to shell out the contract bonus which put a tight time frame on it.

How did we have all the power?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 1 @ 8:54 AM ET
Fox is a very nice player but I think he has said no to two teams and you can get a bad rep fast doing stuff like that. We have some nice dmen in the system right now and I would even say that I prefer Laaksonen to Fox at this point.
- mhp

we spent almost the entire draft last year on D men.. we need forwards right now.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 8:56 AM ET
Some can see through the SMOG and despite the fact Sobotka is done, Botterill will throw short term money away to get the deal he needs. You can argue that point all day long with me.
- SABRES 89


Adjusted.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 1 @ 8:56 AM ET
we didn't have all the power.. the player pretty much asked to be traded in public and everyone knew it. on top of that i believe JB was told to trade him before we had to shell out the contract bonus which put a tight time frame on it.

How did we have all the power?

- SabresFaninIndiana


We had all the power a contract Bonus means very little to Terry Botts thought he got the best offer but he got taken and that makes me worried if he actually wanted those players or if he was sold on them
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

May 1 @ 8:57 AM ET
Sabres have interviewed Tippet and are interested in interviewing Keefe according to Friedman. Also said with Bogo’s surgery that Risto moving isn’t a guarantee.
- Pegullaville


I'm kind a meh on Tippett. His defensive style here won't work imo. Although he did nice work with both Dallas and Phoenix so who knows.

Gronborg-HC
Hakstol, Smith- assistant coaches
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 1 @ 8:57 AM ET
I mean you said that last year about ROR Nothing against you but he’s been here for 6 years doesn’t listen to the coaches anymore ... has not improved this is basically his calling he’s done trade him before teams realize he Hit his potential
- gerbe75pts



If the right deal comes, sure trade him. This isn't like the Ror situation.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 8:59 AM ET
Fox is a very nice player but I think he has said no to two teams and you can get a bad rep fast doing stuff like that. We have some nice dmen in the system right now and I would even say that I prefer Laaksonen to Fox at this point.
- mhp


Another entitled, stand out 3rd round pick from Harvard that thinks he needs to play for the Rags. Let the mediocrity..... Continue!
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