I've never had much of a problem with P.K. off the ice. I don't watch them, but he can make all the self indulgent T.V. & web shows he wants as long as he's not doing something stupid that makes the team look bad. He's not breaking any laws or making ignorant hateful rants on social media or anything. I've never been a fan of his antics on the ice though. Not a big fan of the flopping and theatrics, dumb turnovers, or the forearms to the back of the head and all that crap. (Unless the guy deserved it) I could tolerate all that stuff if playoff P.K. would show up more often during the regular season that he tends to do. We only seem to see that side of him with the national spotlight is on him though, and that is a sign of a 'me-first, team-second', type player.

I'm not really advocating for one way or the other. I won't cry if he's traded, and I wont be disgusted if he stays. Poile needs to do something though... This team needs help up front big time, and P.K. might be the only asset Poile has to dangle to get said help he needs, and clean up the mess he made with the Ellis and Turris signings. In a perfect world he could shed those two contracts and keep P.K. if Poile really wants too, but we don't live in a perfect world. Turris is virtually untradeable, and I can't imagine too many teams are clamoring for Ellis after the season he had. Subban may be his only option whether he really wants to move him or not. Poile decided to keep the coaching staff, so he has to do something to shake up the roster. There's something off with this team the way it's currently constructed... There's a lot of talent, but all the pieces don't seem to fit for whatever reason. The Pred's can't go into next season with the exact same coaching staff, the same system, and all the same players and expect anything different to happen. I don't care that they won the division, we all know there's a big asterisk next to that title.

The articles I've seen about PK being bad in the room or a problem for coaches as a reason to trade doesn't make much sense. He's a hot-dog, look at me guy - but I don't think he's a big issue in the room. Most of the guys like him and he's played pretty decent overall.

As a roster/salary move - that makes total sense. Poile could retain $2MM of Turris salary, and move Turris/Subban, freeing up a net $13MM in cap space. He could use that to extend Josi, and still have a few million plus the cap growth to bring in a top-6 forward.

I don't think you can offload Turris for much unless you retain salary. At this point, freeing up the majority of his cap space is the primary reason to trade him. Subban doesn't hurt the team, nor is his salary out of line with a #1D in the current cap number. But to re-sign Josi long term, you don't want $18MM tied up in your top D-pair. So, somebody probably has to go.

Look at when most of these jokers signed up. That says alot right there.
- Martin\'s E-Ratt

Oh there are bandwagon fans no question, but I can't believe all the Nashville fans are legit hockey fans and not 1 on here is a band wagon fan.

VopartsRush deserves his.....it's called karma. Your GM went all in, traded for big heavy slow guys, and like a fart in the wind, you are gone....again. However, at least you get to hang another regular season banner.

Fact is, Central will be very tough. Colorado is bench mark and depending on who they draft they will get another legit young star and that's after trading away 2 very GOOD proven Fs in Stasny and Duchene the last few years.

You guys and Winnipeg.....better figure out before the window closes and you have to rebuild and yet have nothing to show for it.

Our future lies in the hands of Bowman and how he sures up a dumpster fire of a backend. Time will tell...…...

I've never had much of a problem with P.K. off the ice. I don't watch them, but he can make all the self indulgent T.V. & web shows he wants as long as he's not doing something stupid that makes the team look bad. He's not breaking any laws or making ignorant hateful rants on social media or anything. I've never been a fan of his antics on the ice though. Not a big fan of the flopping and theatrics, dumb turnovers, or the forearms to the back of the head and all that crap. (Unless the guy deserved it) I could tolerate all that stuff if playoff P.K. would show up more often during the regular season that he tends to do. We only seem to see that side of him with the national spotlight is on him though, and that is a sign of a 'me-first, team-second', type player.

I'm not really advocating for one way or the other. I won't cry if he's traded, and I wont be disgusted if he stays. Poile needs to do something though... This team needs help up front big time, and P.K. might be the only asset Poile has to dangle to get said help he needs, and clean up the mess he made with the Ellis and Turris signings. In a perfect world he could shed those two contracts and keep P.K. if Poile really wants too, but we don't live in a perfect world. Turris is virtually untradeable, and I can't imagine too many teams are clamoring for Ellis after the season he had. Subban may be his only option whether he really wants to move him or not. Poile decided to keep the coaching staff, so he has to do something to shake up the roster. There's something off with this team the way it's currently constructed... There's a lot of talent, but all the pieces don't seem to fit for whatever reason. The Pred's can't go into next season with the exact same coaching staff, the same system, and all the same players and expect anything different to happen. I don't care that they won the division, we all know there's a big asterisk next to that title.
- Squatchy

Im fairly certain when he was in Montreal he donated a TON of money to a childrens hospital up there. So off the ice shouldn't be the problem.

Oh there are bandwagon fans no question, but I can't believe all the Nashville fans are legit hockey fans and not 1 on here is a band wagon fan.

VopartsRush deserves his.....it's called karma. Your GM went all in, traded for big heavy slow guys, and like a fart in the wind, you are gone....again. However, at least you get to hang another regular season banner.

Fact is, Central will be very tough. Colorado is bench mark and depending on who they draft they will get another legit young star and that's after trading away 2 very GOOD proven Fs in Stasny and Duchene the last few years.

You guys and Winnipeg.....better figure out before the window closes and you have to rebuild and yet have nothing to show for it.

Our future lies in the hands of Bowman and how he sures up a dumpster fire of a backend. Time will tell...…...
- SteveRain

I have no problem if someone wants to troll or egg Vopats for going on to Jaekel's, Justin's or Tyler's blogs, but dont be a daily douche (BGKarras) to the others here on a constant basis. Its bull$hit and childish. If you have a problem with Vopats, deal with him or tell a moderator or ref here and let them warn or delete their account. Ive been respectful when ive gone to other forums, and try not to engage with trolls here, but it gets old. And yes we do have enough bandwagon fans here in Nashville, that i cant afford to go to the games like i used to.....kind of sucks.

As far as the window goes, its closing, but no need to blow things up. I didnt agree with the 4 pickups at the trade deadline, but i do think a full year with Boyle and Granlund would be better than the few weeks they had to develop some chemistry.

Maybe im getting too old for Hockeybuzz. It used to be a good place to talk hockey, but i guess alot has changed since 2007. Sorry for the rant. Have a good day!

I have no problem if someone wants to troll or egg Vopats for going on to Jaekel's, Justin's or Tyler's blogs, but dont be a daily douche (BGKarras) to the others here on a constant basis. Its bull$hit and childish. If you have a problem with Vopats, deal with him or tell a moderator or ref here and let them warn or delete their account. Ive been respectful when ive gone to other forums, and try not to engage with trolls here, but it gets old. And yes we do have enough bandwagon fans here in Nashville, that i cant afford to go to the games like i used to.....kind of sucks.

As far as the window goes, its closing, but no need to blow things up. I didnt agree with the 4 pickups at the trade deadline, but i do think a full year with Boyle and Granlund would be better than the few weeks they had to develop some chemistry.

Maybe im getting too old for Hockeybuzz. It used to be a good place to talk hockey, but i guess alot has changed since 2007. Sorry for the rant. Have a good day!
- Martin\'s E-Ratt

On today’s internet it’s best to have a really thick skin and a very high level of skepticism. Don’t let some good-natured trolling and trash-talking get you too butt-hurt - just roll with it and enjoy it.

On to hockey... I think Boyle might turn out to be a very good pick up for you guys. He’s capable of scoring those “greasy” goals around the net - and provide a good screen on the power play. Speaking of the Preds power play - no where to go but up - right?

The articles I've seen about PK being bad in the room or a problem for coaches as a reason to trade doesn't make much sense. He's a hot-dog, look at me guy - but I don't think he's a big issue in the room. Most of the guys like him and he's played pretty decent overall.

As a roster/salary move - that makes total sense. Poile could retain $2MM of Turris salary, and move Turris/Subban, freeing up a net $13MM in cap space. He could use that to extend Josi, and still have a few million plus the cap growth to bring in a top-6 forward.

I don't think you can offload Turris for much unless you retain salary. At this point, freeing up the majority of his cap space is the primary reason to trade him. Subban doesn't hurt the team, nor is his salary out of line with a #1D in the current cap number. But to re-sign Josi long term, you don't want $18MM tied up in your top D-pair. So, somebody probably has to go.
- holycow_75

Sure it does. He's not a #1D. Especially on this roster.

I have no problem if someone wants to troll or egg Vopats for going on to Jaekel's, Justin's or Tyler's blogs, but dont be a daily douche (BGKarras) to the others here on a constant basis. Its bull$hit and childish. If you have a problem with Vopats, deal with him or tell a moderator or ref here and let them warn or delete their account. Ive been respectful when ive gone to other forums, and try not to engage with trolls here, but it gets old. And yes we do have enough bandwagon fans here in Nashville, that i cant afford to go to the games like i used to.....kind of sucks.

As far as the window goes, its closing, but no need to blow things up. I didnt agree with the 4 pickups at the trade deadline, but i do think a full year with Boyle and Granlund would be better than the few weeks they had to develop some chemistry.

Maybe im getting too old for Hockeybuzz. It used to be a good place to talk hockey, but i guess alot has changed since 2007. Sorry for the rant. Have a good day!
- Martin\'s E-Ratt

It's funny how you are literally crying now. What are you doing at this moment calling me out. Your resident troll VopatsRash who on a daily basis would drop by and instigate and insult people for a couple of years. So I am returning the favor KARMA. You are not innocent and I have seen your posts in the past to be border line. So stop your crying you douchbag.

Im fairly certain when he was in Montreal he donated a TON of money to a childrens hospital up there. So off the ice shouldn't be the problem.
- SteveRain

He's done quite a bit of charity and community work in Nashville as well, as Paul alluded too. I don't think it's all for show either, though I'm sure he does enjoy the media attention from it. Again, no issues with P.K. off the ice, and there hasn't been any evidence he's been a headache in the Predators locker room either. Just an occasional headache on the ice...

It's funny how you are literally crying now. What are you doing at this moment calling me out. Your resident troll VopatsRash who on a daily basis would drop by and instigate and insult people for a couple of years. So I am returning the favor KARMA. You are not innocent and I have seen your posts in the past to be border line. So stop your crying you douchbag.
- BGKarras

Yeah i took some subtle jabs at you here

Yeah i took some subtle jabs at you here
- Martin\'s E-Ratt

If you dish it out expect to get it back And I am good with that. Honestly I know how you feel and I agree with you totally that it is Bullsh$t at times. I was just returning the favor. I have said this before that I am not always busting chops. I like to discuss hockey like I did with fox. Then a bunch of people here started acting out. So what do you expect to hear from me then. Just like vofart I started busting balls. Are we trying to call a truce here?

If you dish it out expect to get it back And I am good with that. Honestly I know how you feel and I agree with you totally that it is Bullsh$t at times. I was just returning the favor. I have said this before that I am not always busting chops. I like to discuss hockey like I did with fox. Then a bunch of people here started acting out. So what do you expect to hear from me then. Just like vofart I started busting balls. Are we trying to call a truce here?
- BGKarras

Sounds good man.....A truce it is.

Oh isn't this sweet.

It’s a bromance in the making...

Sounds good man.....A truce it is.
- Martin\'s E-Ratt

My man Awesome. To be honest with basically all of you guy's here I was surprised to see your Preds bow out. I really didn't expect it. You guys have had a good team for some time now and that's probably why you guys get all the love (hate). It comes with the territory. I look forward to having more meaningful conversations without the nonsense.

Oh isn't this sweet.
- predsfan97

C'mon man.... Don't pull a vofart on us now.. 🤣

It’s a bromance in the making...
- Chief4Feathers

Let's say mutual respect. But if we meet the Preds in the playoffs again. Truce be Damned lol 😂

Honest question for all.
Does anyone here think that this team stopped playing for Lavy?. In the past his teams seemed to have tuned him out?

Honest question for all.
Does anyone here think that this team stopped playing for Lavy?. In the past his teams seemed to have tuned him out?
- BGKarras

From the outside looking in - this isn’t the same team that swept the Hawks a few years ago. While the roster is largely similar - they’ve seemed to have lost their high-level of compete/desire. So yes, whether it’s they tuned out Lava-lamp or something else is going on in the clubhouse - this team doesn’t have the same mojo going.

From the outside looking in - this isn’t the same team that swept the Hawks a few years ago. While the roster is largely similar - they’ve seemed to have lost their high-level of compete/desire. So yes, whether it’s they tuned out Lava-lamp or something else is going on in the clubhouse - this team doesn’t have the same mojo going.
- Chief4Feathers

Swept they destroyed us. Yeah I was wondering the same thing that team had a swagger to it. They played with a chip on their shoulder. They did what they wanted and no one could stop them and they knew it. Talk about lost mojo. Lavy's coaching ways have rubbed some players wrong I wonder if it's possible that happened with this group here.

Honest question for all.
Does anyone here think that this team stopped playing for Lavy?. In the past his teams seemed to have tuned him out?
- BGKarras

It's possible. It is strange how quickly Lavy tends to get canned so soon after winning cups. That usually buys coaches an extra year or two. Lavy's already passed his usual expiration date. I'd like to think the coaching staff was harping on the guys to stop passing the puck directly to the guys in the opposing teams jerseys, and to stop shooting the puck into the defensive guys shins, but horrible giveaways and blocked shots were problems all season. Perhaps those were signs the boys had stopped listening to him. As far as team chemistry goes, it's hard to tell... The Preds locker room is surprisingly tight-lipped. The only minor story that came out all year was Turris whining from his flaming dumpster about getting benched for a couple of games and his demotion to the fourth line for a while. Other than that, the team just looked like they got content and lazy, and forgot they still had to put in the work to maintain that level of success.

It's possible. It is strange how quickly Lavy tends to get canned so soon after winning cups. That usually buys coaches an extra year or two. Lavy's already passed his usual expiration date. I'd like to think the coaching staff was harping on the guys to stop passing the puck directly to the guys in the opposing teams jerseys, and to stop shooting the puck into the defensive guys shins, but horrible giveaways and blocked shots were problems all season. Perhaps those were signs the boys had stopped listening to him. As far as team chemistry goes, it's hard to tell... The Preds locker room is surprisingly tight-lipped. The only minor story that came out all year was Turris whining from his flaming dumpster about getting benched for a couple of games and his demotion to the fourth line for a while. Other than that, the team just looked like they got content and lazy, and forgot they still had to put in the work to maintain that level of success.
- Squatchy

I never heard that before about Turris, but I’m not surprised. Since his days in Arizona he’s had an air of entitlement about him. I still think he’ll have a better season next year because of his career stats - but his attitude may be a part of what’s wrong with the overall team chemistry.

It's possible. It is strange how quickly Lavy tends to get canned so soon after winning cups. That usually buys coaches an extra year or two. Lavy's already passed his usual expiration date. I'd like to think the coaching staff was harping on the guys to stop passing the puck directly to the guys in the opposing teams jerseys, and to stop shooting the puck into the defensive guys shins, but horrible giveaways and blocked shots were problems all season. Perhaps those were signs the boys had stopped listening to him. As far as team chemistry goes, it's hard to tell... The Preds locker room is surprisingly tight-lipped. The only minor story that came out all year was Turris whining from his flaming dumpster about getting benched for a couple of games and his demotion to the fourth line for a while. Other than that, the team just looked like they got content and lazy, and forgot they still had to put in the work to maintain that level of success.
- Squatchy

Wow did not know that about Turris but a lot of these young guys in every sport expect to be given everything without earning it. The sloppy play by the Preds could be an indication that they may not be happy with the style of play lavy wants. And yes it is odd how soon Lavy wears out his welcome. I thought he was more of a players coach?

Honest question for all.
Does anyone here think that this team stopped playing for Lavy?. In the past his teams seemed to have tuned him out?
- BGKarras

Yes. But also, I think some of the players might be a tad overrated and the star players are not consistent. Arvy was about the only one you could count on this year. And Grimaldi. The others, you never knew if they would show up or not.

And can anyone explain the power play? The numbers say they should've gotten a few by accident, yet couldn't even beat a broken clock.

I'm starting to think the cup run had more to do about luck than skill and/or coaching. It's starting to circle the drain.

I heard that the entire coaching staff is returning for next season. You have got to be kidding me! I thought for sure Dan Muse would be gone after the dismal power play this past season. They'd better get it fixed quickly or heads need to roll!!