lmao 7mil aav for a third line forward who’s soft as slime?
- Skalapy

Come on, he's not a 3rd line forward. He is a guy who has played majority of his career on the 1st line and never gotten less than 61 points in a full season.

It would be fun to see the reaction if Dubas dumped Nylander for pennies on the dollar and then you'd crap on Dubas within 1 year for getting so little for such a talented young forward.

Nylander is getting minimum 70+ points next season. Maybe 80+

DO NOT trade early 20's talent. That's such a Chiarelli move.

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umm... Point 7-8.5 ..why the (frank) is all this talk about Marner and 12mil

Marner should not get any more than point
- senstroll

(frank)ing ridiculous.

The problem with Marner's argument that he should be paid like Matthews is he plays a different position and that amount makes him the highest paid in NHL history by far.
I would wait and see what Rantanen gets. And unlike Marner, Rants' side will want to get as far away from what his teammates make as possible as Mackinnon makes 6.3 million. They can't say they deserve as much as Mackinnon.
- RogerRoeper

Ideally, Dubas would wait to see what other RFA's get, but I don't think that's gonna happen.. I think Marner comes in at $9.5-$10M per

Ideally, Dubas would wait to see what other RFA's get, but I don't think that's gonna happen.. I think Marner comes in at $9.5-$10M per
- PatC80

He should wait because the "Offersheet" stuff is such bullpoop.

Come on, he's not a 3rd line forward. He is a guy who has played majority of his career on the 1st line and never gotten less than 61 points in a full season.

It would be fun to see the reaction if Dubas dumped Nylander for pennies on the dollar and then you'd crap on Dubas within 1 year for getting so little for such a talented young forward.

Nylander is getting minimum 70+ points next season. Maybe 80+
- RogerRoeper

he wasn’t supposed to be but he is now. Sans sandpaper. i hope that you’re right but i predict a future in the sel for him back home with daddy after a few years of collecting a paycheck

and i abhor his soft as slime shrinking violet demeanor

He should wait because the "Offersheet" stuff is such bullpoop.
- RogerRoeper

I think we will be franked over harder than Hoho's hat, if Marners gets more than $10M per

he wasn’t supposed to be but he is now. Sans sandpaper. i hope that you’re right but i predict a future in the sel for him back home with daddy after a few years of collecting a paycheck

and i abhor his soft as slime shrinking violet demeanor
- Skalapy

So you honestly think he's a 3rd liner the rest of his career and he peaked at 20 and 21 years-old?
Come on. If you trade him now it's idiotic. His value is at it's lowest. Trade him next summer and you'll get a ton back.

Patrick Marleau is 100% the biggest issue right now and it's not even close.

Ideally, Dubas would wait to see what other RFA's get, but I don't think that's gonna happen.. I think Marner comes in at $9.5-$10M per
- PatC80

In my opinion, Marner should be between $8.5-$9.5 but he'll most likely be between $9.5-$10.5.

Not a centre, not a goal scorer, and playing with Tavares upped his point total by 30ish.

I think we will be franked over harder than Hoho's hat, if Marners gets more than $10M per
- PatC80

I'm ok with losing Marner because the return under any scenario is so high. I always love offersheet talk, because the 4 1st rounders are never mentioned.

In my opinion, Marner should be between $8.5-$9.5 but he'll most likely be between $9.5-$10.5.

Not a centre, not a goal scorer, and playing with Tavares upped his point total by 30ish.
- GreatGigInTheSky

It depends on what he wants.. Freidman and Dreger both saying he wants $11.5M per, scares me a bit.. I just don't think he's in it for the money only.

Went from playing with teh bozek to Tavares.. I can't see him leaving to play with an average C.

It depends on what he wants.. Freidman and Dreger both saying he wants $11.5M per, scares me a bit.. I just don't think he's in it for the money only.

Went from playing with teh bozek to Tavares.. I can't see him leaving to play with an average C.
- PatC80

That's leaks from Marner's agent. They like Dreger because he's helped them all year with the offersheet nonsense.

What drives me crazy is, why do we only talk about taxes and not endorsements? I'd love to see the $ Mitch gets next to Point in commercials...
- RogerRoeper

he's done a couple now

apple and insurance

he's done a couple now

apple and insurance
- zazzle

Mitch has 6 deals I believe now for endorsements.
Why is that ignored and "Taxes" are only talked about? If Mitch signs with the Panthers all those deals go bye bye.

Also, the "Signing Bonuses" are taxed differently and the interest is massive. Not many teams can afford to do that (Tampa does not seen to do that).

So you honestly think he's a 3rd liner the rest of his career and he peaked at 20 and 21 years-old?
Come on. If you trade him now it's idiotic. His value is at it's lowest. Trade him next summer and you'll get a ton back.

Patrick Marleau is 100% the biggest issue right now and it's not even close.
- RogerRoeper

not going anywhere anytime soon.

So you honestly think he's a 3rd liner the rest of his career and he peaked at 20 and 21 years-old?
Come on. If you trade him now it's idiotic. His value is at it's lowest. Trade him next summer and you'll get a ton back.

Patrick Marleau is 100% the biggest issue right now and it's not even close.
- RogerRoeper

dubass cant trade him now

he probably could have gotten a heavy playoff performer winger with some offensive upside ala poon jenner and another defenseman who knows how to play defense and doesn’t want to play house midseason for greedy will and garbagener for

you are right that marleau is the biggest problem now but who can blame him? he’s old and he took the payday

i CAN blame melander and garbagener for being young and playing like little pantywaists

I know people love Marner, but his side have acted like a-holes and look greedy. Hope Leafs play hardball and threaten to move him.
- RogerRoeper

There was a quote from his agent after the poop hit the fan with Marner Sr. saying that the two sides were actually pretty close on $$$ back in September. Might have just been doing damage control though.

That's leaks from Marner's agent. They like Dreger because he's helped them all year with the offersheet nonsense.
- RogerRoeper

Dreger has not been relevant since the days of Nonis.

I just think he continually tries to throw poop against a wall and hopes that it sticks.

What drives me crazy is, why do we only talk about taxes and not endorsements? I'd love to see the $ Mitch gets next to Point in commercials...
- RogerRoeper

Leafs will also offer big bonuses and upfront cash and be able to "lockout proof" his money better than most teams. That should even out the numbers.

Leafs will also offer big bonuses and upfront cash and be able to "lockout proof" his money better than most teams. That should even out the numbers.
- The Law

I think that's the biggest thing that the Leafs can do that most others can't.

I can see it being a big talking part of the next CBA because it's something that the Leafs can use to their advantage and other teams don't like it.

Even though the biggest thing that needs to be addressed is that the players salary against the CAP should be what they make after taxes, not before. THAT is league parity and even ground for all teams.

Apparently they do miss Tavares and his scoring ability after all.
- Thecakeisalie

Haven't seen them around here chirping much.

Dreger has not been relevant since the days of Nonis.

I just think he continually tries to throw poop against a wall and hopes that it sticks.
- PatC80

Yup, and Dreger is throwing around type 7's on the old Stool Scale.

I think that's the biggest thing that the Leafs can do that most others can't.

I can see it being a big talking part of the next CBA because it's something that the Leafs can use to their advantage and other teams don't like it.

Even though the biggest thing that needs to be addressed is that the players salary against the CAP should be what they make after taxes, not before. THAT is league parity and even ground for all teams.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Ya, if the small southern markets are going to scream about bonus money then they've got to deal with the tax advantage too. I figure it's a wash and it benefits the players so they'll just leave it alone.

I'm ok with losing Marner because the return under any scenario is so high. I always love offersheet talk, because the 4 1st rounders are never mentioned.
- RogerRoeper

same here..if he wants 11-12
take a hike

gimme 4 1sts and cap space to sign someone else

same here..if he wants 11-12
take a hike

gimme 4 1sts and cap space to sign someone else
- senstroll

Imagine signing Panarin and getting 4 unprotected 1sts? That's 8 in the next 4 years.

Oh Leafs are so screwed, right media and non-Leaf fans?

I think that's the biggest thing that the Leafs can do that most others can't.

I can see it being a big talking part of the next CBA because it's something that the Leafs can use to their advantage and other teams don't like it.

Even though the biggest thing that needs to be addressed is that the players salary against the CAP should be what they make after taxes, not before. THAT is league parity and even ground for all teams.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Players will fight hard to keep those bonuses. And if certain teams get $ in revenue sharing from the Leafs AND also have a tax advantage, it has to stay.