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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 2 @ 6:05 PM ET
Trading marner would be a horrible move.
Not gonna happen unless he leaves the leafs no absolutely no choice.
Which i dont believe it will get to that.

- Fakepartofme


Would rather trade Matthews than Marner.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 2 @ 6:14 PM ET
Would rather trade Matthews than Marner.
- JohnFergusonJr

Well leafs have done alright with matthews out of the line up.

Short term

But i dont want to trade either.

Unless mcjesus is coming the other way.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

May 2 @ 6:14 PM ET
Why would less years get more money? That's the opposite of how it works.
- GreatGigInTheSky


True dat. 6 x 11 or 5 x 10.5.....
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

May 2 @ 6:15 PM ET
Leaving the house naked is always an awkward dream

Any of ya'll have that happen before?

- LeafGuy89


A dream? Oh, uh, yeah. A dream! I hate that dream.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

May 2 @ 6:17 PM ET
I think just slightly under Matthews....maybe 6 x 10 or 5 x 10.5. Somewhere in that neighborhood. But, make no mistake. There is a sect of the Leaf base that truly are expecting long term at 8 or 9. Most are realistic and know it HAS to come in 10 or more....and 6 years or 5. It just struck me funny today when I heard this guy talking about the "Home-town" discount of 8 million or so Marner was surely gonna do.

(Cuz I surely know...Kane and Toews didn't discount us several years ago....lol)

- hawk35


I doubt he gets much more than 10 if he stays a Leaf. 9.5 is totally reasonable. For at least 6 years.

How much do you think Rantanen and Point are getting?
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

May 2 @ 6:18 PM ET
Cause neither are from Chicago. So no hometown no?
- Fakepartofme


But, I didn't say "Hometown" when referring to them. But, in the same breath....Tavarez didn't give much of a "Hometown" discount...despite the bedsheets. Just saying....except for guys at the very end of their careers....you don't see players in the prime of their careers taking a shave for the teams interest. At least we haven't seen it yet. Maybe Marner starts the trend.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 2 @ 6:19 PM ET
Well leafs have done alright with matthews out of the line up.

Short term

But i dont want to trade either.

Unless mcjesus is coming the other way.

- Fakepartofme


Yeah, obviously, try to keep both. And obviously trade Nylander before both of them. But they'd probably be better off keeping Marner over Matthews if it ever came down to that.

But if Matthews gets you legit help on D, it's not the end of the world either. Imagine a Matthews level player but on D. That'd help a lot.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 2 @ 6:19 PM ET
I doubt he gets much more than 10 if he stays a Leaf. 9.5 is totally reasonable. For at least 6 years.

How much do you think Rantanen and Point are getting?

- Thecakeisalie

Ive said before and say again. AM and willie are overpaid by 600gs, marner will be too. 10 - 10.6
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 2 @ 6:20 PM ET
But, I didn't say "Hometown" when referring to them. But, in the same breath....Tavarez didn't give much of a "Hometown" discount...despite the bedsheets. Just saying....except for guys at the very end of their careers....you don't see players in the prime of their careers taking a shave for the teams interest. At least we haven't seen it yet. Maybe Marner starts the trend.
- hawk35

Jt was offered more money per by other teams. This was reported
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

May 2 @ 6:23 PM ET
Ive said before and say again. AM and willie are overpaid by 600gs, marner will be too. 10 - 10.6
- Fakepartofme

because of a weak GM?
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

May 2 @ 6:24 PM ET
Jt was offered more money per by other teams. This was reported
- Fakepartofme


Love how other fanbases constantly seem to forget this.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

May 2 @ 6:25 PM ET
I doubt he gets much more than 10 if he stays a Leaf. 9.5 is totally reasonable. For at least 6 years.

How much do you think Rantanen and Point are getting?

- Thecakeisalie


Think yesterday someone posted an athletic article in here about Point's next contract and it was projecting somewhere between 7.5-8.5 which is absolutely ludicrous.. he put up similar numbers to Marner and was also considered a top 10 centerman this year.. also a better goal scorer. But some how Marner is being projected to make 11-12 million on his contract.

Toronto media is (frank)ing retarded...
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

May 2 @ 6:26 PM ET
Ive said before and say again. AM and willie are overpaid by 600gs, marner will be too. 10 - 10.6
- Fakepartofme


I loved the Dangle idea of signing him for 9.95 so it seems like he signed at a discount. Everyone will look at it as 9+ instead of 10 which it basically is, just like things at the store priced at 9.99 lol. Then all Leafs fans continue to love him for taking such a wonderful discount and he gets even more endorsement deals and commercials. The end.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

May 2 @ 6:27 PM ET
Love how other fanbases constantly seem to forget this.
- Thecakeisalie

13 and change was 'reported'...
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 2 @ 6:28 PM ET
Think yesterday someone posted an athletic article in here about Point's next contract and it was projecting somewhere between 7.5-8.5 which is absolutely ludicrous.. he put up similar numbers to Marner and was also considered a top 10 centerman this year.. also a better goal scorer. But some how Marner is being projected to make 11-12 million on his contract.

Toronto media is (frank)ing retarded...

- LeafGuy89

Its because of AM's contract. Why would marner take millions less than matthews?
Not the medias fault
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

May 2 @ 6:29 PM ET
Think yesterday someone posted an athletic article in here about Point's next contract and it was projecting somewhere between 7.5-8.5 which is absolutely ludicrous.. he put up similar numbers to Marner and was also considered a top 10 centerman this year.. also a better goal scorer. But some how Marner is being projected to make 11-12 million on his contract.

Toronto media is (frank)ing retarded...

- LeafGuy89


Toronto media are all little children acting out for attention from their parents. They learned years ago that they get more attention from being stupid little poops spewing negative crap than they did when they actually reported facts and reasonable opinions, so they continue to act out like a little child and are rewarded with attention from us fools.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 2 @ 6:29 PM ET
Think yesterday someone posted an athletic article in here about Point's next contract and it was projecting somewhere between 7.5-8.5 which is absolutely ludicrous.. he put up similar numbers to Marner and was also considered a top 10 centerman this year.. also a better goal scorer. But some how Marner is being projected to make 11-12 million on his contract.

Toronto media is (frank)ing retarded...

- LeafGuy89


Tampa Bay tax discount. Same as Kucherov. And Stamkos. And the rest of their players.

If Kucherov got 9.5 for 100+ points and Stamkos got 8.5 for 60 goals, Point will get 7-8 for 40 goals.

Point also had two much weaker seasons before this one.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

May 2 @ 6:30 PM ET
Its because of AM's contract. Why would marner take millions less than matthews?
Not the medias fault

- Fakepartofme


Because he's not a center, scores less goals, is older, and plays with Tavares, instead of Kapanen?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 2 @ 6:30 PM ET
I loved the Dangle idea of signing him for 9.95 so it seems like he signed at a discount. Everyone will look at it as 9+ instead of 10 which it basically is, just like things at the store priced at 9.99 lol. Then all Leafs fans continue to love him for taking such a wonderful discount and he gets even more endorsement deals and commercials. The end.
- Thecakeisalie

Im on board.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 2 @ 6:32 PM ET
Because he's not a center, scores less goals, is older, and plays with Tavares, instead of Kapanen?
- Thecakeisalie


Older? Not really. They are a little over 4 months apart. Both 97 birthdays.

Doesn't "score" goals but there's a reason why Tavares had a career high 47 and that's at least 50% because of Marner.

Matthews scores a few goals because Marner is the guy dishing on the PP too.

Marner could play center if Babcock so wished. He also kills penalties and backchecks.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

May 2 @ 6:36 PM ET
Older? Not really. They are a little over 4 months apart. Both 97 birthdays.

Doesn't "score" goals but there's a reason why Tavares had a career high 47 and that's at least 50% because of Marner.

Matthews scores a few goals because Marner is the guy dishing on the PP too.

Marner could play center if Babcock so wished. He also kills penalties and backchecks.

- JohnFergusonJr



Hey, who's side you on here? Are you actually Marner's agent?

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 2 @ 6:36 PM ET
Because he's not a center, scores less goals, is older, and plays with Tavares, instead of Kapanen?
- Thecakeisalie

Both are 21.
Marner didnt play with jt the year before.
I get the center and goals thing.
But that doesnt add up to millions less

I hope it does....my gawd i hope it does.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 2 @ 6:39 PM ET
Hey, who's side you on here? Are you actually Marner's agent?


- Thecakeisalie


I'm on the side of truth and objectivity.

Dubas (frank)ed up with contract #1 and #2. It's going to be hard for him to not (frank) up #3.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

May 2 @ 6:40 PM ET
I'm on the side of truth and objectivity.

Dubas (frank)ed up with contract #1 and #2. It's going to be hard for him to not (frank) up #3.

- JohnFergusonJr


Naw. Marner is just a happy go lucky kid that likes to play for the Leafs and sing along to Bon Jovi. He'll sign for 5 milly per for 8 years.

All I gotta do is somehow put a dead horse in his agent's bed and everything will work out.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 2 @ 6:46 PM ET
I think just slightly under Matthews....maybe 6 x 10 or 5 x 10.5. Somewhere in that neighborhood. But, make no mistake. There is a sect of the Leaf base that truly are expecting long term at 8 or 9. Most are realistic and know it HAS to come in 10 or more....and 6 years or 5. It just struck me funny today when I heard this guy talking about the "Home-town" discount of 8 million or so Marner was surely gonna do.

(Cuz I surely know...Kane and Toews didn't discount us several years ago....lol)

- hawk35


Kane and toews were underpaid on their second contracts so they made up for it on the new ones. You got 3 cups while on a discount from them.
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