How is 2 draft spots worth the extra year and less useful player?
- NorthNuck

Once you reach the low bar of useless... is it really a factor which one is more useless?

I'd love to move up 2 spots in the draft for swapping useless players. I did overlook Lucic's expansion draft protection though... so there would have to be more... like another pick perhaps.

Once you reach the low bar of useless... is it really a factor which one is more useless?

I'd love to move up 2 spots in the draft for swapping useless players. I did overlook Lucic's expansion draft protection though... so there would have to be more... like another pick perhaps.
- boonerbuck

I think it is less related to their respective value on the ice and more related to who has the more detrimental contract off the ice. Especially with regards to the extra year and the expansion draft complications.

If I were the Nucks I would want more too.

However, if the Nucks have a very particular target that is available at 8 but likely won't be at 10 then GMs can get a little crazy with respect to valuing the 2 pick move to ensure they get their guy.

I'm just glad Carol is reporting this and not Eklund otherwise the Oil would be stuck with Lucic forever.
- RonPielep

Carol is responsible. She explores the rumours with logic. I relate to this and handle rumours the same way. Respect!!!

(frank) lucic, I wouldn't take him if he was packaged with McDavid.

The only scenario I would support would to be the 3rd team taking on part of his cap hit.

This is real... a shooting/stabbing over a Ford vs Chevy argument.

https://globalnews.ca/new...ooinwHXwGmDb_55VGmRwEBnMo



Horrible reporting. They left out who won the argument.

His NMC only gets wiped if he agrees to wipe it for the Canucks, it all depends on the player. It's possible for him to accept a trade to Vancouver but refuse to waive his NMC with the Canucks. That's something that has to be negotiated between Benning and Lucic's agent before the trade is made.



Moving up 2 spots from 10-8 for a $6M dollar cap dump in the future when EP will be 24, Brock will be 25, Bo will be 27 sounds like something you'd regret and for what gain exactly? Seeing Lucic throw some hits for a year or 2 and get into a couple of fights as a 4th liner?

Just sign Patrick Maroon or some poop for a year or 2 instead then and you'll get the same thing without handicapping the team in the future when they'll hopefully be a legit playoff team.
- Nucker101

I believe this is incorrect. A NTC/NMC is not required to be honored by any team acquiring said player as it is no longer binding.

Here is an article about PK Subban where this is discussed:

https://thehockeywriters....bbans-no-movement-clause/

I believe this is incorrect. A NTC/NMC is not required to be honored by any team acquiring said player as it is no longer binding.

Here is an article about PK Subban where this is discussed:

https://thehockeywriters....bbans-no-movement-clause/
- chompsey

This makes the idea of acquiring extra position/picks even more appealing.

This makes the idea of acquiring extra position/picks even more appealing.
- boonerbuck

If the Canucks were open to burying Lucic if he can no longer keep up, you make that move yesterday if the offer is lucrative.....

This is real... a shooting/stabbing over a Ford vs Chevy argument.

https://globalnews.ca/new...ooinwHXwGmDb_55VGmRwEBnMo



Horrible reporting. They left out who won the argument.
- boonerbuck

The one not covered in piss.

So Loui really isn't a pu$$y magnet, he's more of a poop magnet.

So Loui really isn't a pu$$y magnet, he's more of a poop magnet.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I'm sure the only wussy he got on that vacation was at the rub and tug.

(frank) lucic, I wouldn't take him if he was packaged with McDavid.

The only scenario I would support would to be the 3rd team taking on part of his cap hit.
- belcherbd

Really?

A swap of 1sts, LE for ML and Edmonton throws in a 2nd wouldnt do it for you?

Who cares about the hit, you bury him if he cant play anymore. At least LE can still play....

This is real... a shooting/stabbing over a Ford vs Chevy argument.

https://globalnews.ca/new...ooinwHXwGmDb_55VGmRwEBnMo



Horrible reporting. They left out who won the argument.
- boonerbuck

Ford


Doesn’t matter if it’s trucks or cars, Chevy pays JD Power to help them win “awards” in the truck categories

(frank) lucic, I wouldn't take him if he was packaged with McDavid.

The only scenario I would support would to be the 3rd team taking on part of his cap hit.
- belcherbd

Wait, what?

Lucic and McDavid = no

Lucic and some other team taking a percentage of his cap = yes

I believe this is incorrect. A NTC/NMC is not required to be honored by any team acquiring said player as it is no longer binding.

Here is an article about PK Subban where this is discussed:

https://thehockeywriters....bbans-no-movement-clause/
- chompsey

This is what I’ve read and it sounds like what I’ve read on other sites too:

If the nmc is active, and the player waives it, then the acquiring team can elect to honour or not, but that requires acceptance of the clause in writing by the new team. Of course, from the players POV, you likely only waive the nmc if the new team honours it to maintain control. MAF for example waived his nmc for the ED yet still has the name nmc and mntc clauses.

Subban, his ntc had not been activated yet since it kicked in on July 1, the start of an nhl year, so the preds didn’t have to honour it.

So in the the end the player with the nmc still has control as they would want the acquiring team to honour the nmc if the player waives it to go to the new team.

Lucic doesn’t fall into that Subban category. He has more power than Subban did.

If he’s desperate enough to leave Edmonton then he can agree to not have the Canucks honour the NMC, but if the Canucks don’t want to honour it and he wants to keep it then he’ll simply veto the trade.

How is 2 draft spots worth the extra year and less useful player?
- NorthNuck

This exactly.

Ford


Doesn’t matter if it’s trucks or cars, Chevy pays JD Power to help them win “awards” in the truck categories
- Nucker101

Always knew that. I drive a Ford 250 SD. Will go for the 350 next time. Cheaper insurance.

NS High School students performing Blackbird in Mi'kmaq

Ford


Doesn’t matter if it’s trucks or cars, Chevy pays JD Power to help them win “awards” in the truck categories
- Nucker101

Lucic (1.5 ret), #8 and a 2020 3rd for Loui (1.5 ret) and #10. Assumes Lucic waives the NMC or downgrades it to a NTC (if possible).

Always knew that. I drive a Ford 250 SD. Will go for the 350 next time. Cheaper insurance.
- boonerbuck

I know a lot of tradesmen, out of the newer pickup trucks, the only guys who never seem to have reliability issues are Ford and Toyota truck drivers. Dodge and Chevy are hit and miss depending on usage and maintenance.

Can’t speak for the older models

Really?

A swap of 1sts, LE for ML and Edmonton throws in a 2nd wouldnt do it for you?

Who cares about the hit, you bury him if he cant play anymore. At least LE can still play....
- chompsey

As long as the nmc is gone a 2nd is enough for me. See if he can find some fire, if not bye bye.

Lucic (1.5 ret), #8 and a 2020 3rd for Loui (1.5 ret) and #10.
- MaximumBone

Why would both sides retain the same Amount?

As long as the nmc is gone a 2nd is enough for me. See if he can find some fire, if not bye bye.
- neem55

I’d rather have Maroon for a year or 2 for toughness and get out of the cap dump a year earlier with LE.


Plus LE is Swedish, higher chance of him going home early to finish in the SHL than Lucic retiring.

I know a lot of tradesmen, out of the newer pickup trucks, the only guys who never seem to have reliability issues are Ford and Toyota truck drivers. Dodge and Chevy are hit and miss depending on usage and maintenance.
- Nucker101

I drove Ram 1500 and 2500's before I bought my Ford 250 SD. The 2001ish era was pretty damn solid. Still have a couple of those trucks in the back field. They still run and one I simply drive off into the crown land from my field every couple of years and keep beating on it for firewood duty. It even had a tree fall on it...


My father drives Toyota trucks now. We traded hunting for fishing these days... its all he needs.