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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 4 @ 11:07 AM ET
Buch, Lemiux, AD, should come in around 2 mill each? + Claeson and Pionk?

If the first three I mentioned are signed, $$$ comes down to more like 14/15 mill. Thats not all that much to spend on Panarin and a few other small pieces if any current roster players aren't traded. It's really not all that much

- rrentz

Yeah exactly. They need to trade Pionk, Vesey and Namestinkov.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 4 @ 11:27 AM ET
Yeah exactly. They need to trade Pionk, Vesey and Namestinkov.
- tomburton99



It's going to be very active on the NYR front come draft day
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 4 @ 11:30 AM ET
Yeah exactly. They need to trade Pionk, Vesey and Namestinkov.
- tomburton99


Agreed here. Pionk would be a good 7th dman but he’ll want too much $$$
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
Agreed here. Pionk would be a good 7th dman but he’ll want too much $$$
- nyrangers2

If they sign Pionk then that means they would have...

Shattenkirk
DeAngelo
Pionk
Fox
Smith
Staal
Skjei
Hajek
Lindgren

All trying to earn a spot. It's a good problem to have but still a problem.
Mtlca66
New York Rangers
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 12.31.2007

May 4 @ 11:55 AM ET
If they sign Pionk then that means they would have...

Shattenkirk
DeAngelo
Pionk
Fox
Smith
Staal
Skjei
Hajek
Lindgren

All trying to earn a spot. It's a good problem to have but still a problem.

- tomburton99


all those "S" players are a damn problem.
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

May 4 @ 12:02 PM ET
all those "$" players are a damn problem.
- Mtlca66

fixed
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
Buch, Lemiux, AD, should come in around 2 mill each?

Claeson and Pionk? Pionk has arbitration rights, so he's probably gone, and Claeson played well, but is he really worth signing and jamming up an already jammed up back end?

If the first three I mentioned are signed, $$$ comes down to more like 14/15 mill. Thats not all that much to spend on Panarin and a few other small pieces if any current roster players aren't traded. It's really not all that much

- rrentz


get yaself a nice stool softener
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 4 @ 1:34 PM ET
If they sign Pionk then that means they would have...

Shattenkirk
DeAngelo
Pionk
Fox
Smith
Staal
Skjei
Hajek
Lindgren

All trying to earn a spot. It's a good problem to have but still a problem.

- tomburton99


one of the reasons why I am not 100% convinced they are gonna target a big ticket defenseman via trade or free agency
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

May 4 @ 1:34 PM ET
anybody who is upset about what we gave up for Fox is nuts

hopefully Dallas takes care of business because if we are drafting 2nd, 19th and 28th, complaining about not also having #37 is a little greedy

- jimbro83



Funniest thing here is I think we all expected additional 1st rounder to come from Tampa!

The only downside I see in trading for Fox is we gave up our own picks in the deal. I know how rare offer sheets are, but that deal basically rules out even the POSSIBILITY of us giving an offer sheet to anybody...
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 4 @ 1:40 PM ET
Funniest thing here is I think we all expected additional 1st rounder to come from Tampa!

The only downside I see in trading for Fox is we gave up our own picks in the deal. I know how rare offer sheets are, but that deal basically rules out even the POSSIBILITY of us giving an offer sheet to anybody...

- TommyGTrain


I read some one speculate that the Rangers could throw an offer sheet around where a 3rd rounder was compensation and just declare the pick to Carolina be a 2nd instead of waiting to see if Fox plays 30

Good news is that Dallas loves I mean loves Zuccarello, chances are real strong they re-sign him and will happily eat the first rounder, just for the chemistry he brings as much as anything else

that team was pretty miserable most of the year, the owner called out Seguin and Benn. Zucc has changed everything there. One little Norweigian.
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

May 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
I read some one speculate that the Rangers could throw an offer sheet around where a 3rd rounder was compensation and just declare the pick to Carolina be a 2nd instead of waiting to see if Fox plays 30

Good news is that Dallas loves I mean loves Zuccarello, chances are real strong they re-sign him and will happily eat the first rounder, just for the chemistry he brings as much as anything else

that team was pretty miserable most of the year, the owner called out Seguin and Benn. Zucc has changed everything there. One little Norweigian.

- jimbro83



If you remember, I was advocating using an offer sheet to get Kapanen for the 2nd round compensation. 4 X 4 approx. $16 million. Being creative and make first year pay him say $7 million would be VERY difficult for Toronto to match . Now that option is gone.

If will admit, I stated after the Zucc trade I thought the return was a bit underwhelming. The mere possibility that we can get one or even two first round picks from that deal is crazy! Gorton has done a FANTASTIC job here and has far exceeded even wild expectations. He has earned my respect and trust as a fan and I can't wait to see what he does as we head into summer!
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
If you remember, I was advocating using an offer sheet to get Kapanen for the 2nd round compensation. 4 X 4 approx. $16 million. Being creative and make first year pay him say $7 million would be VERY difficult for Toronto to match . Now that option is gone.

If will admit, I stated after the Zucc trade I thought the return was a bit underwhelming. The mere possibility that we can get one or even two first round picks from that deal is crazy! Gorton has done a FANTASTIC job here and has far exceeded even wild expectations. He has earned my respect and trust as a fan and I can't wait to see what he does as we head into summer!

- TommyGTrain


I think if Kapanen is out there looking for an offer sheet to sign, it's going to have to come in higher than that

I wouldnt be surprised if it came in at 5 years 30 mil or something like that
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

May 4 @ 3:14 PM ET
I know, I thought it was hysterical.

I'm doing it... DH Gate has a customized Hurricanes 3rd jersey for $33. I'm going to get "JERK" put on it!

- TheMessiah94


Quality from DH is good. I have a couple.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 4 @ 3:17 PM ET
get yaself a nice stool softener
- jimbro83


Miralax?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 5 @ 12:16 AM ET
one of the reasons why I am not 100% convinced they are gonna target a big ticket defenseman via trade or free agency
- jimbro83

Do you see any #1’s there though? I think ADA is a 3/4, Skjei is a 3/4, to early on Hajek/Lindgren. Staal is a 5/6 at this point in his career as well as Smith and Shattenkirk is a 10/11.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 5 @ 3:54 AM ET
If we sign Panarin and trade for Trouba I would say we could make a serious run as soon as next year.

Panarin Zib Kravtsov
Kreider Chytil Buch
Kakko Howden Strome
Smith Boo Lemeuix

Hajek Trouba
Staal ADA
Lindgren Fox

Skjei as part of a deal for Trouba
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 5 @ 6:16 AM ET
Do you see any #1’s there though? I think ADA is a 3/4, Skjei is a 3/4, to early on Hajek/Lindgren. Staal is a 5/6 at this point in his career as well as Smith and Shattenkirk is a 10/11.
- nyrangers9479


good one

I feel like they should wait another year before committing to another outside guy for the blueline (whether via trade or UFA) to a long term deal

let another season of Staal/Shatty/Smith go by, then there will be only one year left for each on their awful contracts, and at the same time get much more playing time for all these young guys

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 5 @ 6:16 AM ET
Larry Brooks:

The trade for Adam Fox that includes an encumbered 2020 second-rounder (a third will become a second if the Harvard product plays 30 NHL games this season) takes the Rangers out of the offer-sheet game for any compensation that includes a No. 2 for 2020.

In other words, no Mitch Marner or Brayden Point on Broadway … unless you’re sacrificing four first-rounders.

Which potential new president John Davidson is not
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

May 5 @ 8:40 AM ET
Larry Brooks:

The trade for Adam Fox that includes an encumbered 2020 second-rounder (a third will become a second if the Harvard product plays 30 NHL games this season) takes the Rangers out of the offer-sheet game for any compensation that includes a No. 2 for 2020.

In other words, no Mitch Marner or Brayden Point on Broadway … unless you’re sacrificing four first-rounders.

Which potential new president John Davidson is not

- jimbro83


Of course those two would cost the max anyway. You could always trade for their rights though.

Look on the bright side today guys, today we lock up the third 1st. I can feel it
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 5 @ 9:04 AM ET
Of course those two would cost the max anyway. You could always trade for their rights though.

Look on the bright side today guys, today we lock up the third 1st. I can feel it

- 2sticks1puck


I felt something this morning, but it was last nights General Tso's Chicken
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 5 @ 9:16 AM ET
Of course those two would cost the max anyway. You could always trade for their rights though.

Look on the bright side today guys, today we lock up the third 1st. I can feel it

- 2sticks1puck



It would take just as much to trade for their rights as it would to sign them.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 5 @ 9:19 AM ET
Of course those two would cost the max anyway. You could always trade for their rights though.

Look on the bright side today guys, today we lock up the third 1st. I can feel it

- 2sticks1puck


hell yeah

HELL YES

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 5 @ 9:22 AM ET
hell yeah

HELL YES


- jimbro83

Series is going 7.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 5 @ 9:23 AM ET
Series is going 7.
- tomburton99


hope I was wrong
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

May 5 @ 9:23 AM ET


It would take just as much to trade for their rights as it would to sign them.

- tomburton99


I’m not going to argue with that, just throwing it out there. We can’t offer sheet Chiefs boy LeBanc, but we can give Dallas 2nd instead in a trade.
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