How can anyone not like Shanahan much? The Shanaplan has been bloody brilliant.
- Zezel

I like Shanny, and he was no marshmallow - he was the hammer, not the nail.

I like Shanny, and he was no marshmallow - he was the hammer, not the nail.
- winsix

That just shows you're still sane.

That just shows you're still sane.
- Zezel

Again, that was on Matthews, not Babcock.
- GreatGigInTheSky

So Matthews decides line changes and his usage?

You need to do some research on what type of injury Hyman had.
- Santo_44

https://www.tsn.ca/hyman-...ry-for-torn-acl-1.1296153

https://www.tsn.ca/hyman-to-undergo-surgery-for-torn-acl-1.1296153
- RogerRoeper

Holy (frank)

Again, do some research.

Don’t go to TSN for medical science. Please.

Edit: ah my mistake I thought the injury was different. I’ve been out of the loop the last week I was on vacation.

- winsix

HOT

How can anyone not like Shanahan much? The Shanaplan has been bloody brilliant.
- Zezel

I was never a fan of his until he took over the Leafs and started changing poop for the better.

I was never a fan of his when he was a player and I thought he was awful when he was in charge of suspending players. Although, in hindsight, he's been better than everyone whose followed him at it.

TITS!

Trust
In
The
Shanaplan

So Matthews decides line changes and his usage?
- RogerRoeper

Matthews chose to take short shifts, yes.

Babcock kept putting him out there and Matthews took himself off at his leisure. To me, that says that he wasn't completely healthy. But I obviously can't say for sure what the reason was, just that it was in his hands.

Matthews chose to take short shifts, yes.

Babcock kept putting him out there and Matthews took himself off at his leisure. To me, that says that he wasn't completely healthy. But I obviously can't say for sure what the reason was, just that it was in his hands.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Matthews CHOSE to take short shifts?

This could possibly be one of the stupidest things ive ever read on here, and wow. There's a lot to choose from.

Good work.

mmmmmmmmmm
- daeth

smores

Matthews CHOSE to take short shifts?

This could possibly be one of the stupidest things ive ever read on here, and wow. There's a lot to choose from.

Good work.
- joel878

The fact that you think that shows how stupid your post is.

really hate it when burn starts making things up (i was very clear i didnt like hunter nor dubas for next gm) and when lulmlums pretends having a different goalie only has an impact on a few goals.

to be clear:
i like lou
i like babcock
i dont lije shanahan much.
i would have liked another gm instead of dubas.
i do think dubas had earned himself a chance to be an nhl gm - just not with the leafs which is a top5 nhl organisation and should always go for best available. dubas is not best available as he showed with nylander negotiations, backup goalie failure and holl marincin leivo - connected to this inability do make more moves at trade deadline sue to lack of capspace.

people who cannot tolerate others for having different opinions than theirs, in particular when it's about sports, are a bit sad.
- MaximusAurelius

Nylander took to long but I think he got him at a good cap hit moving forward.
holl marincin leivo this is all on Babcock imo he refused to play them more than what he did. hell marincin should be let go by the Leafs but Holl who a righ hand shot should of played more swapped out more with Oz.

Wether Dubas is a good GM we'll have to wait and see.

You back up your guy.

He did not and now Babs is facing some heat. He’s one selfish man if that’s the case.
- Santo_44

Maybe he's just a kid who didn't know that.

Although I am the first to point out that London has certain advantages, you still have to give Hunter credit for the job he did there.

I was the first guy to point out that Hunter’s drafting record sucks, but to suggest he has no hockey resume is absurd.

If he is interviewed for a GM position, that speaks for itself.
- Atomic Wedgie

Agreed.

I didn’t say it wasn’t a fact, you just omitted some things, it’s all good, par for the course with you.

I’m pretty sure you can google and see how well his team has done and records etc in the OHL, plus some NHL experience now too.

Anyways, have a gooder!!!
- Garnie

Omitted what?

You omitted that you’re a (frank)ing retard?
- Garnie

Hockeybuzz finest right here.

Can't articulate a response, out comes the name calling.

Why bother if that's all you're gonna stoop to? I posted facts and this is your response.

Right? How good is burnt marshmellow?!
- Zezel

Since this thread is dying I will point out that Dubas became the GM of the Soo out of nepotism as his family had a big role through his Grandpa and his daddy. He didn't coach minor hockey like most guys do, or work his way up to triple A midget. Or through the junior B ranks and onto teir 2 and then the CHL. He was a stick boy for his grandpa and because his family had been involved he became part of the club. The official story is he WOWed in his interview. Please. He had zero credentials but his interview Wowed them apparently. I'm going to go into an interview for a CHL team and tell them I haven't played hockey since I was 13, but hung around the arena so give me the job.

He got a Sports Management degree, worked as a scout for a bit and then ran the team. They got better over his three years yet couldn't get out of the first round ironically being swept by OHL leading scorer Conner Brown and McDavid of course.

Then Shanny recruited him and he did pretty good. He didn't scout or draft the players on the team though. That's the Leafs that did that. He did bring his Soo coach with him though and he obviously knows what he's doing. Dubas oversaw the development team so he gets cred there as the talent wasn't wasted.

Correction: They did get out of the first round and lost to Erie.

Since this thread is dying I will point out that Dubas became the GM of the Soo out of nepotism as his family had a big role through his Grandpa and his daddy. He didn't coach minor hockey like most guys do, or work his way up to triple A midget. Or through the junior B ranks and onto teir 2 and then the CHL. He was a stick boy for his grandpa and because his family had been involved he became part of the club. The official story is he WOWed in his interview. Please. He had zero credentials but his interview Wowed them apparently. I'm going to go into an interview for a CHL team and tell them I haven't played hockey since I was 13, but hung around the arena so give me the job.

He got a Sports Management degree, worked as a scout for a bit and then ran the team. They got better over his three years yet couldn't get out of the first round ironically being swept by OHL leading scorer Conner Brown and McDavid of course.

Then Shanny recruited him and he did pretty good. He didn't scout or draft the players on the team though. That's the Leafs that did that. He did bring his Soo coach with him though and he obviously knows what he's doing. Dubas oversaw the development team so he gets cred there as the talent wasn't wasted.

Correction: They did get out of the first round and lost to Erie.
- aminnes

i'm going to have to defend dubas a bit here; because he didnt follow the old fashioned path doesnt mean he wasnt for the job.
surely his family had something to do with him getting some chances, but that's just the way how the world works - everyone does have to make sure you make something of the opportunity given. dubas is obviously a clever guy and he did a lot of scouting and brings some oldschool views and new views (advanced stats, in general open to do thibgs differently) which is a really nice combination to bring as a professional.

what i dont like too much about dubas personally is that he tends to take his buddies with him (keefe, some scout with a portuguese name etc) - you can do that in ohl to some extent, but this is the leafs we're talking about..

my other point is that leafs can basically pick any gm they want - and they go with the unproven guy who still needs to get some additional experience. hiring dubas as a gm is a lack of ambition on leafs' side - and surely some politics were involved as well since lou wanted to stay (apparently?).

i have not so much against dubas as a professional per se, i have an issue with him being given the gm spot instead of others that are more proven.

Since this thread is dying I will point out that Dubas became the GM of the Soo out of nepotism as his family had a big role through his Grandpa and his daddy. He didn't coach minor hockey like most guys do, or work his way up to triple A midget. Or through the junior B ranks and onto teir 2 and then the CHL. He was a stick boy for his grandpa and because his family had been involved he became part of the club. The official story is he WOWed in his interview. Please. He had zero credentials but his interview Wowed them apparently. I'm going to go into an interview for a CHL team and tell them I haven't played hockey since I was 13, but hung around the arena so give me the job.

He got a Sports Management degree, worked as a scout for a bit and then ran the team. They got better over his three years yet couldn't get out of the first round ironically being swept by OHL leading scorer Conner Brown and McDavid of course.

Then Shanny recruited him and he did pretty good. He didn't scout or draft the players on the team though. That's the Leafs that did that. He did bring his Soo coach with him though and he obviously knows what he's doing. Dubas oversaw the development team so he gets cred there as the talent wasn't wasted.

Correction: They did get out of the first round and lost to Erie.
- aminnes

Right on, we all knew that already.

i'm going to have to defend dubas a bit here; because he didnt follow the old fashioned path doesnt mean he wasnt for the job.
surely his family had something to do with him getting some chances, but that's just the way how the world works - everyone does have to make sure you make something of the opportunity given. dubas is obviously a clever guy and he did a lot of scouting and brings some oldschool views and new views (advanced stats, in general open to do thibgs differently) which is a really nice combination to bring as a professional.

what i dont like too much about dubas personally is that he tends to take his buddies with him (keefe, some scout with a portuguese name etc) - you can do that in ohl to some extent, but this is the leafs we're talking about..

my other point is that leafs can basically pick any gm they want - and they go with the unproven guy who still needs to get some additional experience. hiring dubas as a gm is a lack of ambition on leafs' side - and surely some politics were involved as well since lou wanted to stay (apparently?).

i have not so much against dubas as a professional per se, i have an issue with him being given the gm spot instead of others that are more proven.
- MaximusAurelius

What? How? They went out and identified a smart up and comer, that seems pretty ambitious. As Apposed to just hiring a regurgitated gm that failed out of somewhere else.

Hockeybuzz finest right here.

Can't articulate a response, out comes the name calling.

Why bother if that's all you're gonna stoop to? I posted facts and this is your response.
- burn

If it wasn’t for Leafman you would have won the pool, you posted 1 fact and left out many other facts. But me having to point that out proves my point about you.

Go play with your kids, it’s nice out.

If it wasn’t for Leafman you would have won the pool, you posted 1 fact and left out many other facts. But me having to point that out proves my point about you.

Go play with your kids, it’s nice out.
- Garnie

What facts? You keep saying it but can't post them which proves my point.