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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 4 @ 1:46 PM ET
The Blues’ window was this year and next, they aren’t getting any younger. They brought in ROR, Bozak, Maroon, Perron this year with a goalie in the Calder voting and a Jack Adams candidate behind the bench. They only improved 3 points in the standings and are one loss away from their typical 2nd round playoff exit.
- Pegullaville

but 6 out of their last 10 trips to the playoffs, they lost in the FIRST round
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 4 @ 1:47 PM ET
8 points in 11 games is bad ? And he was just fine here, by the way, and should still be here. Horrible trade.
- kritter65

thank kim and terry
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 4 @ 1:52 PM ET
8 points in 11 games is bad ? And he was just fine here, by the way, and should still be here. Horrible trade.
- kritter65

He’s getting blasted by Blues media and by analytics guys for being awful since the middle of the Jets series

https://sports.yahoo.com/...-struggles-154452811.html

BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 1:52 PM ET
The Blues’ window was this year and next, they aren’t getting any younger. They brought in ROR, Bozak, Maroon, Perron this year with a goalie in the Calder voting and a Jack Adams candidate behind the bench. They only improved 3 points in the standings and are one loss away from their typical 2nd round playoff exit.
- Pegullaville

I said this in the Blues blog at the start of the season and boy did they get salty. I proposed they tear it down and I think that team overachieved big time this season.

Islanders are their Eastern counterpart. I say Dallas closes that series in the next game. Bishop has been a great pickup for them and the owner calling out his star players (no pun intended) seems to have worked up until this point.

I hate to say it but I think Boston might have taken the momentum needed to win their series against Columbus.

It will be a Dallas vs. Carolina cup finals and no one will watch it.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 4 @ 1:56 PM ET
He’s getting blasted by Blues media and by analytics guys for being awful since the middle of the Jets series

https://sports.yahoo.com/...-struggles-154452811.html

- OneKaneOneCup

"What’s interesting, though, is that the thing he was really good at all year, faceoffs, weren’t exactly his strong suit. He went plus-11 on 159 draws, which is 53.5 percent. Certainly respectable but a bit of a step back from what you’d expect of a guy whose career number is 55.3 percent."


I stopped reading there

he has 7 points in the last 8 playoff games

bishop is hot, there is a reason why I had the stars going to the conference finals when the playoffs were about to start

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 4 @ 1:57 PM ET
and the owner calling out his star players (no pun intended) seems to have worked up until this point.

.

- BeadyEyedDouche

they really turned it around after that


OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 4 @ 1:57 PM ET
"What’s interesting, though, is that the thing he was really good at all year, faceoffs, weren’t exactly his strong suit. He went plus-11 on 159 draws, which is 53.5 percent. Certainly respectable but a bit of a step back from what you’d expect of a guy whose career number is 55.3 percent."


I stopped reading there

he has 7 points in the last 8 playoff games

bishop is hot, there is a reason why I had the stars going to the conference finals when the playoffs were about to start

- homiedclown

Except the Seguin line has dominated him all series.

Just go ask a Blues fan. He’s made O’Reilly irrelevant.

It’s like he’s a Sabre again
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 2:14 PM ET
they really turned it around after that
- homiedclown

They really did. I think Seguin responded immediately but Benn took a while to come around.

Bishop has to be the most under the radar move in the NHL over the past few years.

I don't think Colorado or San Jose would beat Dallas in the next round. I hate how good Carolina looks.

If we hadn't "tanked" I really wonder where we would be... Because we weren't much further ahead before it and haven't been close to resembling an NHL team since.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 4 @ 2:33 PM ET
8 points in 11 games is bad ? And he was just fine here, by the way, and should still be here. Horrible trade.
- kritter65


2 goals in 11 games and a majority of the points are secondary assists. Also, when you are supposed to be a shut down player and you are a -7 in the playoffs and getting owned in the FO circle that doesn’t bode well for your teams chances. Seguin is having his way with him.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 4 @ 2:36 PM ET
but 6 out of their last 10 trips to the playoffs, they lost in the FIRST round
- homiedclown


3 of their last 4 exits have been second round exits though if I’m not mistaken ? Any way you slice it though Doug Armstrong is the king of building good teams that are never “great” enough to get over the hump.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 4 @ 2:40 PM ET
"What’s interesting, though, is that the thing he was really good at all year, faceoffs, weren’t exactly his strong suit. He went plus-11 on 159 draws, which is 53.5 percent. Certainly respectable but a bit of a step back from what you’d expect of a guy whose career number is 55.3 percent."


I stopped reading there

he has 7 points in the last 8 playoff games

bishop is hot, there is a reason why I had the stars going to the conference finals when the playoffs were about to start

- homiedclown


Step 1: Go on twitter and search up “Ryan O’Reilly” in the search bar.

Step 2: Sit back and enjoy the show. Kypreos tore him apart last night on sportsnet, Blues columnists Lou Korac, Dan Buffa, Jeremy Rutherford have all mentioned he hasn’t been good. Blues Twitter is losing their minds.

ROR is picking up all of those secondary points and not having an impact on the game. When you are a faceoff specialist and a Selkie Candidate and you can’t win a draw to save your life and are a -7 in the playoffs it isn’t good.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
All the Islanders UFA's come with giant flashing red lights. If anyone knows the perils of signing Islander UFA's to long term deals and having them blow up, it's Sabre fans.
- Lunaion


I'm curious what the giant flashing red light is re: Brock Nelson.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
They wanna get rid of Gourde? Since when?
- OneKaneOneCup


Take a look at Gourde's contract starting next year.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 4 @ 3:15 PM ET
Take a look at Gourde's contract starting next year.
- kingcong39

It’s 5.1 mil for a 50 point guy who has averaged 25 goals last two years and is 27.

I don’t get it
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 4 @ 3:17 PM ET
I can only imagine how some of you react to hearing news about your ex girlfriends.


Imagine exerting that brain power towards something useful
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 4 @ 3:22 PM ET
It’s 5.1 mil for a 50 point guy who has averaged 25 goals last two years and is 27.

I don’t get it

- OneKaneOneCup


His contract pays him $5.16M for the ages of 28-33, as he turns 28 in December, and he's scored 25 and 22 goals the last 2 years.

If you think he's the 64 point player, than fine, but if he's the 48 point ancillary player from this past season, that's not a great deal for the Lightning with their cap situation.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 4 @ 3:28 PM ET
8 points in 11 games is bad ? And he was just fine here, by the way, and should still be here. Horrible trade.
- kritter65

The guy is almost exactly like Shane Doan. Skilled player. Puts up numbers except where it really matters, the win column.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 4 @ 3:30 PM ET
I can only imagine how some of you react to hearing news about your ex girlfriends.


Imagine exerting that brain power towards something useful

- washedup20


Even imagining that makes me feel over exerted
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 4 @ 3:32 PM ET
I'm curious what the giant flashing red light is re: Brock Nelson.
- kingcong39


He has all the major warning signs. He's good, far from great. Coming off a career year. At the age where regression is likely in the next few years. Is very likely to get too much $ for too many years.

What do you project for him? 40 points for 2 years, then a fall off? Less?

What's it going to take to sign him? 6 years @ 5m? More?

Maybe he'll be the one that beats the odds, but he's among the riskiest in my book.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 4 @ 3:33 PM ET
He has all the major warning signs. He's good, far from great. Coming off a career year. At the age where regression is likely in the next few years. Is very likely to get too much $ for too many years.

What do you project for him? 40 points for 2 years, then a fall off? Less?

What's it going to take to sign him? 6 years @ 5m? More?

Maybe he'll be the one that beats the odds, but he's among the riskiest in my book.

- Lunaion


Maybe it's because I don't think of him as one of the players who's going to hit the jackpot in FA in either dollars or term.

4 years at $5M isn't worth it?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 4 @ 3:36 PM ET
His contract pays him $5.16M for the ages of 28-33, as he turns 28 in December, and he's scored 25 and 22 goals the last 2 years.

If you think he's the 64 point player, than fine, but if he's the 48 point ancillary player from this past season, that's not a great deal for the Lightning with their cap situation.

- kingcong39



What makes him a great deal for us, then?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
Maybe it's because I don't think of him as one of the players who's going to hit the jackpot in FA in either dollars or term.

4 years at $5M isn't worth it?

- kingcong39


I don't think you're going to get him for that. Maybe the Isle's could extend him for that, but I don't think the Sabre's are landing him for that. It's team friendly. Even if they could, I still think it looks really bad in 3 years, when you're probably looking at a 30 point player.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 4 @ 3:38 PM ET
What makes him a great deal for us, then?
- Powerslave


He's not, at all. I've been arguing with J Crag about wanting him in a trade for weeks now 😄😅
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 4 @ 3:41 PM ET
Picks 28-31 are allocated to the final four teams left in the in the playoffs, the rest of the picks are allocated by regular season finish. The Blues pick would have been 20 but if the Stars win it would push it down to 19. If the Blue Jackets and Avs win as well it would be pushed down even further. If the Blues win the series however the pick would then be in the 28-31 range.

Edit: That is my understanding. Perhaps I’m wrong as well and someone else can drop some info debunking that thought process but that’s the way I see it.

- Pegullaville


Pretty sure you’re correct

As for your response this morning,
you missed my point

You can’t count the Cap Space we gained as an asset, bc we need to use that to replace what we lost
Therefor it isn’t Cap Space actually “gained” over what we previously had
*unless we find a 2C and goal scoring winger for cheap... bit what are the odds of that?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 4 @ 3:54 PM ET
He's not, at all. I've been arguing with J Crag about wanting him in a trade for weeks now 😄😅
- kingcong39


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