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I don’t think the Rangers make a good trading partner with the Jets for Trouba, unless Zibenajad is involved - TheUltimateJet
We need centers as well haha, couldn’t imagine they trade Zibanejad |
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I don’t think the Rangers make a good trading partner with the Jets for Trouba, unless Zibenajad is involved - TheUltimateJet
There is no team in the NHL that will trade us their current number one Center. I know you really want one but have to start looking at teams deep at Center where it’s possible to get either their #2 or a young potential top 2 line Center |
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There is no team in the NHL that will trade us their current number one Center. I know you really want one but have to start looking at teams deep at Center where it’s possible to get either their #2 or a young potential top 2 line Center - Ross77
I think Andersson will be a 2/3C with some upside and Skjei is a 3/4 LHD. |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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Blow it up. Fire Maurice. Get rid of the complacency. Still alot of talent on that team. Eliminate the excuses. Winning cures all. |
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Showing support for the coach is the "wrong way"? - Pastor_Matt
Absolutely. His job is to lead this team in a way to maximize the comraderie and cohesion of the team. He is the front line Sergeant, leading these guys into a firefight. Right or wrong, if a few of the privates believe the Commander/coach is wrong it's his job to try to try something different, acknowledge their concerns and bring them on board, not parrot the Commander/coach's words. Otherwise, why would a team even need a captain?...... |
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I think Andersson will be a 2/3C with some upside and Skjei is a 3/4 LHD. - nyrangers9479
Who do you think has the higher ceiling, Anderson or howden? |
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Unfortunately the Jets are stuck with Maurice because any good replacements have already signed elsewhere, unless its a young coach who has never been a head coach in the NHL. Trouba should be traded if he doesn't resign long term by the draft and I would like to see them get Patrick and a #1 pick from the Flyers, or deal with the Panthers. |
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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 09.11.2017
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Absolutely. His job is to lead this team in a way to maximize the comraderie and cohesion of the team. He is the front line Sergeant, leading these guys into a firefight. Right or wrong, if a few of the privates believe the Commander/coach is wrong it's his job to try to try something different, acknowledge their concerns and bring them on board, not parrot the Commander/coach's words. Otherwise, why would a team even need a captain?...... - liverpoolnhl
Starting a coup-de-etat are we? Not the captains job. |
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I’ve said this before and say it again... the Jets will never win anything with Maurice at the helm. His MO is to work is top players to death. Which is good to win regular season games but come playoffs there is no gas left in the tank. Where was Scheifele in the playoffs? Now Chevy has to start earning his paycheque for once. He never really had to worry about the cap till now. He has to make the right choices of who to sign and who to trade. Otherwise he will trap this team in cap he’ll. Signing Byfuglien to an extension is not a step in the right direction. He was obviously part of the not happy crowd, he continues taking terrible penalties and is still a liability on defence. |
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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 09.11.2017
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Unfortunately the Jets are stuck with Maurice because any good replacements have already signed elsewhere, unless its a young coach who has never been a head coach in the NHL. Trouba should be traded if he doesn't resign long term by the draft and I would like to see them get Patrick and a #1 pick from the Flyers, or deal with the Panthers. - islansjet
I hesitate to go after the local kids because my heart sees a distorted picture. I like Patrick but really need to have a dispassionate decision for a return. Same for all the Manitoba boys. I also think it puts an unfair pressure on them to be and do more than they are.
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Well, I wonder if Scheif is po'd to point of requesting a trade to make a point?
Anyways, Not a good situation. Good write up in this blog Pete. - CharlieDog
Thanks- these are always tricky ones to write because it's hard to confirm fact from rumor and then apply cont4ext on how this all may have come about. |
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Starting a coup-de-etat are we? Not the captains job. - 2.0
Help me then. I'm not sure what you mean by a coup-de-tat. I wasn't implying that. What is the captain's job? I'm not of the mindset that it is just to be a quiet leader i.e. lead by example. Again, there is no need, in my mind, for someone to wear a "C" if that's all they do...... |
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I am surprised that no one on this board has recommended trading Byfuglien and then using his cap hit to try and sign Trouba.
I am starting to think that Trouba may want out due to having a poor relationship with the "Big Dog". |
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Help me then. I'm not sure what you mean by a coup-de-tat. I wasn't implying that. What is the captain's job? I'm not of the mindset that it is just to be a quiet leader i.e. lead by example. Again, there is no need, in my mind, for someone to wear a "C" if that's all they do...... - liverpoolnhl
Coup-de-etat is cutting off the head of an organization by others looking to replace them. in this situation that would be Maurice. If wheeler leaves doubt about his confidence in the coach and Chevy decides to bring him back the team will fester for another season. He can and willstill have conversations with players and potentially gm to represent player issues. Publicly the right thing to do is to close ranks... unless you want to cut off the head.
Edit: it does not literally mean ‘cutting off the head’, idea of a forceful change of power is the same. Please pardon my French. |
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Do you guys think Trouba gets resigned or traded? - nyrangers9479
Traded, and good riddance. The guy is over-hyped and about to get overpaid. He never liked Winnipeg. |
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Traded, and good riddance. The guy is over-hyped and about to get overpaid. He never liked Winnipeg. - bikeguy99
A: No. He’s underrated. His defence has been elite, and he just put up 50 points.
B: No, he’s finally going to be paid appropriately.
C: Have you talked to him personally about it? Even if you had, I don’t blame him if he doesn’t like it here. I was born and raised in Winnipeg, and I wouldn’t live here given first choice out of 31 NHL cities |
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A: No. He’s underrated. His defence has been elite, and he just put up 50 points.
B: No, he’s finally going to be paid appropriately.
C: Have you talked to him personally about it? Even if you had, I don’t blame him if he doesn’t like it here. I was born and raised in Winnipeg, and I wouldn’t live here given first choice out of 31 NHL cities - Rexypoo
Good post. Point C is the strongest. I don't think it's so much as being underrated as that Winnipegers just haven't embraced the guy - I think it's a grudge held over from the first round of RFA talks and combined with local insecurity about being Winnipeg and we are lashing back by being unfairly critical of errors and dismissive of strong play. Grudge hasn't helped the Jets retain a good player. Other markets know the value, that's why the underrated label doesn't fit. |
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Good post. Point C is the strongest. I don't think it's so much as being underrated as that Winnipegers just haven't embraced the guy - I think it's a grudge held over from the first round of RFA talks and combined with local insecurity about being Winnipeg and we are lashing back by being unfairly critical of errors and dismissive of strong play. Grudge hasn't helped the Jets retain a good player. Other markets know the value, that's why the underrated label doesn't fit. - 2.0
Which good players have the Jets not retained? |
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Which good players have the Jets not retained? - TheUltimateJet
sorry it was unclear in the post. Trouba |
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Trouba doesn't want to be here, and that's ok!!!
Everyone!!!
stop blaming him for not wanting to be here, he's not the first player to not want to play somewhere, ask our Captain why he refused to play in Arizona!!
stop blaming Chevy, it will not be his fault if Trouba wont sign a long term deal for third time and he has to trade him
trade him and Move on!!
ps, everyone move on from Enstrom to!!!
you don't see Game of Thrones fans still talking about the Red Wedding do you? No, live in the now |
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Trouba doesn't want to be here, and that's ok!!!
Everyone!!!
stop blaming him for not wanting to be here, he's not the first player to not want to play somewhere, ask our Captain why he refused to play in Arizona!!
stop blaming Chevy, it will not be his fault if Trouba wont sign a long term deal for third time and he has to trade him
trade him and Move on!!
ps, everyone move on from Enstrom to!!!
you don't see Game of Thrones fans still talking about the Red Wedding do you? No, live in the now - Ross77
A little overkill on the exclamation points Ross, but I agree with your assessment.
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A little overkill on the exclamation points Ross, but I agree with your assessment. - BWJumper
fair point |
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If we have to keep Maurice let’s bring in some new blood on the bench. I like what philly just did with hiring Yeo and therion. Maybe we can hire Kruger and .... |
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There is no team in the NHL that will trade us their current number one Center. I know you really want one but have to start looking at teams deep at Center where it’s possible to get either their #2 or a young potential top 2 line Center - Ross77
I have been thinking about this point Ross. I looked at some recent trades that involved #1 Centers. I do believe we have enough to get one.
ex 1. Ryan Johansen traded for Seth Jones (Could be something we do for Trouba)
ex 2. Mika Zibanejad traded with a 2nd round pick for Derick Brassard (Could be the equivalent of trading Little or Lowry)
ex 3. Ryan O'Reilly traded for Patrik Berglund, Vladmir Sobotka, Tage Thompson, 2019 1st round pick and 2021 2nd round pick (Equivalent would be trading two third line players with a B+ prospect)
I believe that the Jets have assets to make all the above trades. The only trade above of any significance is the Seth Jones deal. Just some ultimate thoughts for Monday morning....
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I have been thinking about this point Ross. I looked at some recent trades that involved #1 Centers. I do believe we have enough to get one.
ex 1. Ryan Johansen traded for Seth Jones (Could be something we do for Trouba)
ex 2. Mika Zibanejad traded with a 2nd round pick for Derick Brassard (Could be the equivalent of trading Little or Lowry)
ex 3. Ryan O'Reilly traded for Patrik Berglund, Vladmir Sobotka, Tage Thompson, 2019 1st round pick and 2021 2nd round pick (Equivalent would be trading two third line players with a B+ prospect)
I believe that the Jets have assets to make all the above trades. The only trade above of any significance is the Seth Jones deal. Just some ultimate thoughts for Monday morning.... - TheUltimateJet
You have to remember that with the exception of maybe Ryan Johansen none of those guys were number one centers for their team when traded.
So who would you target now who are not their teams top Center? |
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