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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 5 @ 10:05 PM ET
Therrien is no stranger to confrontations with his players. I like him for this group. Guy is a Richard. This group of players needs it
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 5 @ 10:07 PM ET
with MT coming aboard the players have ZERO excuse not to play well and win
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

May 5 @ 10:29 PM ET
Therrien is no stranger to confrontations with his players. I like him for this group. Guy is a Richard. This group of players needs it
- Just5

I was thinking the same thing. Since he and Bergevin got rid of PK I guess that trade option is off the table.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 5 @ 11:00 PM ET
Michel Therrien lol.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 6 @ 7:36 AM ET
Michel Therrien lol.
- Tomahawk

everything is still terrible
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 6 @ 7:40 AM ET
so the Flyers org is kinda going all out as far as coaching goes.

have a feeling there will be at least some sort of on-ice improvement for a few years before the coaching staff burns out. both AV and Therrien are kinda proven to have a short-ish shelf life. then it's back to square one but at least we'll hopefully have Frost, Farabee, Ratcliffe, and other young guys on the team by that point.

not really sure how to feel, just hope to see the team improve all around sooner rather than later.

as far as trades go, i would definitely float our 1st and Morin out there for another top 6 forward. see if some team bites and is willing to bet on Morin's size. not opposed to a Patrick trade either but it would have to bring back something substantial.

keep Ghost and build around a d core of him, Provy, Sanheim, Myers. Fill in the 5 and 6 D with cheap, decent options through FA or future prospects.

hope that Hart can continue to develop into everything we need him to be and get him a solid 1B.

Forwards look decent but could use at least one legitimate goal scorer.

Continue to draft well and don't go crazy in FA for anyone over 27/28 years old unless it's a legit star player.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

May 6 @ 7:50 AM ET
so the Flyers org is kinda going all out as far as coaching goes.

have a feeling there will be at least some sort of on-ice improvement for a few years before the coaching staff burns out. both AV and Therrien are kinda proven to have a short-ish shelf life. then it's back to square one but at least we'll hopefully have Frost, Farabee, Ratcliffe, and other young guys on the team by that point.

not really sure how to feel.

- Mordecai

I'm thinking that the last experienced coach the Flyers had was Lavy. He has been gone what, 7 years? Ready to see what these guys can do. This team lacks focus for sure and perhaps motivation. We saw what coaching can do in many places. Vegas, Carolina, Isles, hell, St. Louis and even here with Gordon. Let's see what AV and his new henchman can do. Looking for all the assistants to be moving on. Therein replaces Knobs and Wilson came out of retirement. Only leaves Lappy. Time for new blood. Oh, forgot Dilabau? No idea how to spell him. Guess it depends on how he works with Hart. Also good to see Hart and AV in the world's. He can see up close what he has.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 6 @ 7:51 AM ET
so the Flyers org is kinda going all out as far as coaching goes.

have a feeling there will be at least some sort of on-ice improvement for a few years before the coaching staff burns out. both AV and Therrien are kinda proven to have a short-ish shelf life. then it's back to square one but at least we'll hopefully have Frost, Farabee, Ratcliffe, and other young guys on the team by that point.

not really sure how to feel, just hope to see the team improve all around sooner rather than later.

as far as trades go, i would definitely float our 1st and Morin out there for another top 6 forward. see if some team bites and is willing to bet on Morin's size. not opposed to a Patrick trade either but it would have to bring back something substantial.

- Mordecai


Who is the top 6 forward? If it's a Zucarello type, 50 point forward, hard pass.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 6 @ 7:52 AM ET

This is hilarious. Cherry is the Hurricanes ambassador in disguise. Marketing genius!

https://thecomeback.com/n...t-running-don-cherry.html

Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 6 @ 7:59 AM ET
Who is the top 6 forward? If it's a Zucarello type, 50 point forward, hard pass.
- MJL

with the Jets in an impending cap crunch and possibly losing Trouba maybe you could swing a deal centered around Morin and a 1st (+)? for a guy like Connor. wouldn't be opposed to RNH either but they are all kinda long shots. just some wishful thinking on my end tbh.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 6 @ 8:04 AM ET
so the Flyers org is kinda going all out as far as coaching goes.

have a feeling there will be at least some sort of on-ice improvement for a few years before the coaching staff burns out. both AV and Therrien are kinda proven to have a short-ish shelf life. then it's back to square one but at least we'll hopefully have Frost, Farabee, Ratcliffe, and other young guys on the team by that point.

not really sure how to feel, just hope to see the team improve all around sooner rather than later.

as far as trades go, i would definitely float our 1st and Morin out there for another top 6 forward. see if some team bites and is willing to bet on Morin's size. not opposed to a Patrick trade either but it would have to bring back something substantial.

keep Ghost and build around a d core of him, Provy, Sanheim, Myers. Fill in the 5 and 6 D with cheap, decent options through FA or future prospects.

hope that Hart can continue to develop into everything we need him to be and get him a solid 1B.

Forwards look decent but could use at least one legitimate goal scorer.

Continue to draft well and don't go crazy in FA for anyone over 27/28 years old unless it's a legit star player.

- Mordecai


Bringing Therrien in I’m sure has gotten the attention of the players. It will be an interesting camp
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 6 @ 8:05 AM ET
with the Jets in an impending cap crunch and possibly losing Trouba maybe you could swing a deal centered around Morin and a 1st (+)? for a guy like Connor. wouldn't be opposed to RNH either but they are all kinda long shots. just some wishful thinking on my end tbh.
- Mordecai


I really don’t think Morin has much value at all around the league. He’s a throw in right now. A mild sweetener
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 6 @ 8:06 AM ET
I really don’t think Morin has much value at all around the league. He’s a throw in right now. A mild sweetener
- Just5

yeah you're probably right.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 6 @ 8:23 AM ET
I really don’t think Morin has much value at all around the league. He’s a throw in right now. A mild sweetener
- Just5


Rather keep Morin as 7 hope he continues to develop and if not hes a cheap 7 with a bit of nasty. Hagg is the odd man out for me his skill set doesnt fit an AV system at all. Ghost I want to get at least a year to see how he fits this team.

Provy - vet
Sanheim - Myers
Ghost - gudas
Morin
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 6 @ 8:25 AM ET
Rather keep Morin as 7 hope he continues to develop and if not hes a cheap 7 with a bit of nasty. Hagg is the odd man out for me his skill set doesnt fit an AV system at all. Ghost I want to get at least a year to see how he fits this team.

Provy - vet
Sanheim - Myers
Ghost - gudas
Morin

- Tfaehner

yeah Hagg is pretty much a non factor for me. if he sticks around as a cheap 6/7, cool. if not he won't be sorely missed.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 6 @ 8:53 AM ET
yeah Hagg is pretty much a non factor for me. if he sticks around as a cheap 6/7, cool. if not he won't be sorely missed.
- Mordecai


I think he has more value than Morin though. Hes been a full time nhl player for 2 years. He can be a solid thiird pairing for someone.

Still hope we improve our top 6 and get a vet d man. I was wondering what Zucker and spurgeon combined would cost.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 6 @ 9:03 AM ET
I think he has more value than Morin though. Hes been a full time nhl player for 2 years. He can be a solid thiird pairing for someone.

Still hope we improve our top 6 and get a vet d man. I was wondering what Zucker and spurgeon combined would cost.

- Tfaehner

Zucker would be awesome. I'm not thrilled on Spurgeon but wouldn't be upset if both could be reasonably acquired.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 6 @ 9:13 AM ET
BSH is scared for the players and fans of the Therrien hire. Apparently he was mean to Briere in montreal
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

May 6 @ 9:44 AM ET
GMs seem quick to fire Therrien. He's been fired from teams with decent-to-good win/loss records. I get the sense he's abrasive and people lose tolerance for his style. He might be better suited as an assistant coach with a chill dude like Vigneault.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 6 @ 9:59 AM ET
BSH is scared for the players and fans of the Therrien hire. Apparently he was mean to Briere in montreal
- Just5


https://www.broadstreetho...istant-coach-flyers-rumor

Just read it.

When translated into English, there is a segment coming from Briere that reads, “When I walked into the room, [Therrien] started picking me once again, showing me some gameplay [...] He ended his speech by saying, ‘There’s nobody in the room that respects you! There is no one who wants to play with you!’ It was incredibly mean.” He goes on to say “Everyone knew I was the target player [...] I was embarrassed, embarrassed, hurt,” and finishes with “The message was very clear: my opinion was not welcome and I was better off shutting up.”



Very interesting. I have no reason to doubt Briere, but saying something like that to a player (and its not clear if it was in front of the rest of the team) is ridiculous. Especially if it WAS in front of the team.

Again, just going on Briere's word here. that isn't just being mean, that kind of statement undermines a whole team.



Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 6 @ 10:15 AM ET
Usually the assist. coaches are the good cops... guess it'll be reversed for the Flyers.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 6 @ 10:49 AM ET
with the Jets in an impending cap crunch and possibly losing Trouba maybe you could swing a deal centered around Morin and a 1st (+)? for a guy like Connor. wouldn't be opposed to RNH either but they are all kinda long shots. just some wishful thinking on my end tbh.
- Mordecai


The Jets and Lightning are two teams that I'm interested in seeing what they do this offseason (and of course the Flyers).
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

May 6 @ 10:56 AM ET
Therrien is no stranger to confrontations with his players. I like him for this group. Guy is a Richard. This group of players needs it
- Just5


Wholeheartedly agree. This team needs a swift kick in the as$.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 6 @ 1:36 PM ET
with the Jets in an impending cap crunch and possibly losing Trouba maybe you could swing a deal centered around Morin and a 1st (+)? for a guy like Connor. wouldn't be opposed to RNH either but they are all kinda long shots. just some wishful thinking on my end tbh.
- Mordecai


I'll repeat what I often say. When teams have a cap issue, they don't normally move players like Connor.
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