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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

May 5 @ 2:03 PM ET


a (frank)ing monkey could have signed tavares to that contract.....that in no way is a point in Dubas' favour.

as for the "#1 dman", if you're referring to Muzzin, that's hilarious. the guy is 2nd pairing (which is exactly what he played in TOR)......and your brilliant GM overpaid for him.

You claim that Dubas is some incredible GM, yet most of the moves he made this year were not great. he waived 2 goalies better than the plug he signed, who almost singlehandedly cost the leafs home ice, he overpaid for Muzzin, he failed to add any more depth on the blueline, he failed to address the lack of size and depth in the bottom six............and he's basically created a cap disaster that is going to lead to the leafs losing 2-3 good players, further worsening the lack of depth.

he's basically built the "post cup" blackhawks, only younger. a top heavy team that is massively invested in 3-4 good players, and no money to surround them with depth

- sensarmy_11

What I love about this point is if you flash back to late JUne, 2018, EVERYONE said he was staying in Long Island or going to SAn Jose. Suddenly it was a slam dunk and Dubas deserves no credit for doing the most work any GM has doen in NHL history to sign a UFA.

Ridiculous. Until the night before, he was seriously considering Long Island. Dubas' presentation was epic and changed his mind.

https://nypost.com/2019/0...e-signing-with-islanders/

This narrative that suddenly has changed (By the same people who said Tavares would never go to Toronto) to he was always 100% going to Toronto is laughable.

BTW, the Leafs "Cap Issues" are clearly related to Lou's signings (Marleau and Zaitsev=10.8 million next season). It's not from Dubas.
johnnypie
Joined: 12.22.2015

May 5 @ 2:04 PM ET
You are typical of the analytics , speed and skill, all finesse Dubas group. First you only use stats that make your point and ignore stats when they don't. Tampa dominated every stat and were out 4 straight. Of course that was because of the goaltending. The Islanders dominated the all important dangerous shot % stat. Won 4 straight. But you don't like them so again they were lucky and the stat is ignored.It was all goaltending. Truth is none of your finesse first teams are still playing. The poster boys the Dubas Leafs out in the first round again. Now the Hurricanes are analytically inclined. I know before the playoffs they were high on your list.

Dubas didn't fill the obvious needs of a very talented team . The goaltending
situation hurt them all year long. He could have traded Sparks
because Sparks could have brought back some value. Teams in need of goaltending
including Carolina could have been interested thinking Sparks is a young guy who could fill our need long term. But that is not the worst of it. All year he is saying
he HAS plenty of depth on D. The Muzzin trade helped because HE FINALLY got
a physical presence on D. Someone who hits. But then going into the playoffs
he doesn't trade for any D depth or size and sizzle up front. Nic Patan, are you kidding. Then after they lose he tries to say the bruins went away from their
style in games 5-6-7 dressing less physical players. Really you jerk. They took out Backes and Wagner for JN and Kul , right ? But you fail to mention that Kuraly
a very physical player came back in. And JN now is finesse ? Also your lack of depth on defense led to having to play Gardiner who obviously was not right.

Call a spade a spade my friend the leafs with some help from their GM were not
far off. But because of his VISION they didn't fill their needs. Let me ask you if
you beat Boston was that it ? The cup was his ? Of course not. What was that team going to do against Columbus ? Without your most consistent , Physical forward
Hyman. Petan your GM'S brilliant deadline deal was going to replace him ?
I'm sure that after watching these playoffs SUPERBOY is going to see the need
for a bigger, more physical lineup. Let's just see if he is smart enough to actually
get something done.

Be careful about mocking Lou L. He has plenty of cap space and a coach that knows
what he's doing. They do need some more offensive punch. With that cap space
he has the ability to go after some of the big boys out there.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 5 @ 2:07 PM ET
One last thing re: TOR and boy-genius. If TOR had CAR's backup and had outbid BOS for Coyle, I wonder if they could've ended their Cup drought this year. Maybe also pickup a RHD who is, you know, RH....
- doublechili


Irrelevant.

Wasn't gonna play any games.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

May 5 @ 2:08 PM ET
One last thing re: TOR and boy-genius. If TOR had CAR's backup and had outbid BOS for Coyle, I wonder if they could've ended their Cup drought this year. Maybe also pickup a RHD who is, you know, RH....
- doublechili


What if they kept Mcbackup(Who would have played 0 seconds in the playoffs), added Coyle, but did not add Tavares or Muzzin?

Yes, not getting Coyle cost them a cup...Geeze. Seriously?

Funny thing about the Dubas haters is they always try to ignore the Tavares and Muzzion additions.

And BTW, that Rasmus Sandin trade and pick by Dubas is looking brilliant.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

May 5 @ 2:12 PM ET
James can be wrong for 86 games but then thinks he's proven right by 4 games. Must be nice to believe saying it makes it so. As if redemption were that easy....

Re: NYI/Tor, we'll see longer-term which team is hitched to be better GM (although oddly enough my money is on the HOFer and not the Stickboy). But in the meantime, anyone who thinks this season went to Tor and not NYI is dreaming. Isles had more regular season points and lasted one round longer. And that's not even accounting for expectations going into the season.

- doublechili


Despite all the hype of Toronto being "In Trouble" this summer, Lou has his work cut out for him. So many UFAs. It's going to take a lot of upgrades to equal what they did last year. They had THE best goaltending. Will that continue? Both goalies are UFAs.
shoreorrpark
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
This isn't factually accurate and I'm pretty sure you know it.
Curious as to why you claim it to be true.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

May 5 @ 2:21 PM ET
Islanders are the classic hard-working team that overachieved and will not have a chance in heck of repeating this next year. That's a team seriously lacking talent.
gonch
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 5 @ 2:35 PM ET
hey James,
how do Gretzky, Orr and Lemieux all fit into the two spots above Crosby? I don't know your age as that tends to be the reason for people getting this wrong usually but I saw all 4 outside of Orr and their is little doubt that Gretzky and Lemieux were far more dominant than Crosby. Crosby is great, don't get me wrong here, but c'mon man!
cnatch
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 07.02.2018

May 5 @ 2:48 PM ET
If it takes someone six months to read a 900 page book, then they are not the person you want to discuss the book with.
Tedge77
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.17.2019

May 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
If you hadn't noticed your number 1 center that was going to Toronto no matter who the GM was did didily Richard in the playoffs.
sodapop31
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 05.20.2016

May 5 @ 3:05 PM ET
Jimothy,

You are 100% right about how Crosby should win the Hart. That's not even sarcasm. Without him, the Penguins easily miss the playoffs and would be near the bottom of the league. Hopefully the league gets it right this time, but I doubt it.

In regards to Endgame, I thought it was good, but not great. To be honest, I actually liked Infinity War better, even though I didn't think it lived up to all the hype either. The only reason why Endgame was good because of the last hour. The first two were a complete drag. If you can't agree with that, then you're a loser Marvel stan with no brain.

Everyone, enjoy your Sunday! Especially you Brooklyn Islander fans, you guys must be wiped out from cheering all the way into the second round. The second round! So proud of you guys.

Respectfully,
Slopperplop
Tedge77
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.17.2019

May 5 @ 3:24 PM ET
Jimothy,

You are 100% right about how Crosby should win the Hart. That's not even sarcasm. Without him, the Penguins easily miss the playoffs and would be near the bottom of the league. Hopefully the league gets it right this time, but I doubt it.

In regards to Endgame, I thought it was good, but not great. To be honest, I actually liked Infinity War better, even though I didn't think it lived up to all the hype either. The only reason why Endgame was good because of the last hour. The first two were a complete drag. If you can't agree with that, then you're a loser Marvel stan with no brain.

Everyone, enjoy your Sunday! Especially you Brooklyn Islander fans, you guys must be wiped out from cheering all the way into the second round. The second round! So proud of you guys.

Respectfully,
Slopperplop

- sodapop31

Bitter Pens fan are you?
sodapop31
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 05.20.2016

May 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
Bitter Pens fan are you?
- Tedge77

Can you not see "Chicago Blackhawks" under my username? In case you still don't understand (which should be no surprise since you are a Brooklyn Islanders fan), that means I root for the Chicago Blackhawks. So no, I am not a bitter Penguins fan. With that being said, greatness roots for greatness, something Brooklyn Islander fans and their tiny brains cannot comprehend. I enjoy seeing players like Crosby, Ovechkin, Tavares, Matthews, Bergeron, etc. succeed because of how great they are for their team and the sport. As a Blackhawks fan, I've seen individual and team greatness firsthand for quite some time. Admittedly, the past two years haven't been too enjoyable, but it was time to start giving other teams a chance.

Hope that answers your ridiculously stupid question, squid.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 5 @ 4:17 PM ET
Jimothy,

You are 100% right about how Crosby should win the Hart. That's not even sarcasm. Without him, the Penguins easily miss the playoffs and would be near the bottom of the league. Hopefully the league gets it right this time, but I doubt it.

In regards to Endgame, I thought it was good, but not great. To be honest, I actually liked Infinity War better, even though I didn't think it lived up to all the hype either. The only reason why Endgame was good because of the last hour. The first two were a complete drag. If you can't agree with that, then you're a loser Marvel stan with no brain.

Everyone, enjoy your Sunday! Especially you Brooklyn Islander fans, you guys must be wiped out from cheering all the way into the second round. The second round! So proud of you guys.

Respectfully,
Slopperplop

- sodapop31


Ridiculous.
Tedge77
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.17.2019

May 5 @ 4:26 PM ET
Can you not see "Chicago Blackhawks" under my username? In case you still don't understand (which should be no surprise since you are a Brooklyn Islanders fan), that means I root for the Chicago Blackhawks. So no, I am not a bitter Penguins fan. With that being said, greatness roots for greatness, something Brooklyn Islander fans and their tiny brains cannot comprehend. I enjoy seeing players like Crosby, Ovechkin, Tavares, Matthews, Bergeron, etc. succeed because of how great they are for their team and the sport. As a Blackhawks fan, I've seen individual and team greatness firsthand for quite some time. Admittedly, the past two years haven't been too enjoyable, but it was time to start giving other teams a chance.

Hope that answers your ridiculously stupid question, squid.

- sodapop31

You sound like a little snot nose my point is don't crap on other teams success because you have won a fee cups
C. U Next Tuesday
DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

May 5 @ 4:46 PM ET
The previous Vampire Weekend album is still one of my favorite albums of the past 20 years, however, this one not really (yet). Hope the VW album will grow on me, who knows.

It's all The End Of Suffering by Frank Carter & TRS now, what an awesome album.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 5 @ 5:21 PM ET
Pretty sure you said Vegas had no chance of making the playoffs again after last year.

Par for the course I guess ( you weren’t the only one )
Kinsella13
New York Islanders
Location: Valley Stream, NY
Joined: 04.20.2019

May 5 @ 6:55 PM ET
The salt is strong with this one.
DubsHockey
Joined: 05.26.2017

May 5 @ 7:49 PM ET
Probably the first Tanner blog I actually agree with, quite pleasantly surprised. Well done sir.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 5 @ 7:51 PM ET
What if I read on my phone? It's a pain in the ass to tote a book around to a poop load of doctor's appointments.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 5 @ 8:04 PM ET
I agree with you on the Sparks point. But both Nylander & Matthews contracts were proof of Dubas's inexperience. How many UFA years did he purchase on Matthews deal??? What is the point of having RFA status players if you have to pay top UFA pricing for these guys. At least Oilers got a few UFA years on that McDavid deal & he totally earned that contract. Matthews has missed almost a quarter of the season the last two years & his career stats are not even a PPG. Now, how Nylander managed to get almost 7.0 mill per year on his stats is beyond me. He's a .68 PPG player. If he wanted that much money then a solid GM would have either Bridged him or traded his a$$. Marners .93 PPG plus durability is going to put the Leafs paying 50% of the cap to 4 forwards. That my friend is not a model for success in this league. It's about the highest definition of top heavy one would see in the NHL.
- Kevin R



Nylander's contract is going to prove to be dirt cheap and super team friendly. The Leafs are employing a studs and duds salary structure based on the theory that all non first liners are practically interchangeable.

So for instance, why pay a Hyman or a Brown 2.5 million when every summer there's a Tyler Ennis sitting around for free who will play for 800K ?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 5 @ 8:05 PM ET
You sound like a little snot nose my point is don't crap on other teams success because you have won a fee cups
C. U Next Tuesday

- Tedge77


Aren't you the dippoop who called him a bitter Pens fan? It's almost like you are the little snot nose. Hahahahahaha
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 5 @ 8:12 PM ET
So loud Lamerillo isn't a good GM. hockey IS hockey, and his age doesn't really matter. Only thing he can be judged with when it comes to the Isles is what he's done so far in one year, which all should agree, is pretty dam good. In years to come he might be judged differently. Of course, you have to insert luck into the equation.
- rrentz


Here is a list of his moves:

Sign Robyn Lehner - good move, but he was available cheap and free, and no one can claim that they could have predicted he's be the best goalie in hockey

Extend Tomas Hickey - 5/6 dman , irrelevant move.

Trade for Matt Martin - 4th liner, irrelevant move

Signed 34 year old Val Fillipula (decent move, really doesn't move the needle)

Signed Leo Komarov to a terrible contract.

Ross Johnsson 4 years (what? why?)

Tom Kunhackle signed

Lost John Tavares.


Ignoring the Robin Lehner signing, he assembled a team with 6th liners, over paid for every single one of them, and lost his best player.


The team's results were driven almost entirely by goaltending, as they had pretty brutal peripherals.

Even if you love the Islanders, I think most of Lou's moves are pretty indefensible. But the media did name him the GM of the year at the half-way mark, so what do I know?


rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 5 @ 8:29 PM ET
Here is a list of his moves:

Sign Robyn Lehner - good move, but he was available cheap and free, and no one can claim that they could have predicted he's be the best goalie in hockey

Extend Tomas Hickey - 5/6 dman , irrelevant move.

Trade for Matt Martin - 4th liner, irrelevant move

Signed 34 year old Val Fillipula (decent move, really doesn't move the needle)

Signed Leo Komarov to a terrible contract.

Ross Johnsson 4 years (what? why?)

Tom Kunhackle signed

Lost John Tavares.


Ignoring the Robin Lehner signing, he assembled a team with 6th liners, over paid for every single one of them, and lost his best player.


The team's results were driven almost entirely by goaltending, as they had pretty brutal peripherals.

Even if you love the Islanders, I think most of Lou's moves are pretty indefensible. But the media did name him the GM of the year at the half-way mark, so what do I know?

- James_Tanner


It would seem your disdain for me has helped give you a well thought and factual response James.

Kind of agree, but his presence alone breeds confidence and dedication. The next few years will define him, but results are what matters and this year was a success.

You did forgot to mention the Trotz hire. Best one of them all
Tedge77
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.17.2019

May 5 @ 8:34 PM ET
Aren't you the dippoop who called him a bitter Pens fan? It's almost like you are the little snot nose. Hahahahahaha
- j.boyd919

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