I feel like you can't criticize anyone, ever again, for anything, after saying that.
- James_Tanner

Time to lay off the bottle. You have no idea to what I am referring and even if you did, history shows us pretty clearly you wouldn't understand.

this is why you get flamed. it's for saying stuff like this. you're completely altering the common definition of a #1 defence to support a narrative about a player that you cannot let go of. a #1 is a guy who can anchor a top pair and give you 22-27 elite minutes/night. lots of teams don't have them because there are not 31 of those guys in the NHL.

it's not possible for anyone who watched that Leaf-Bruin to series to walk thinking "damn that Jason Muzzin is one of the best in the league".
- DoubleDown

This is true, for a person with some cognitive function. Given who is making that claim, all bets are off.

Sadly, this will just become more "Leafs-fan lore".

JT was deciding on Toronto/Long Island the night before he signed. It was far from a slam dunk.
- RogerRoeper

Didn't say it was a slam dunk, not sure I lay the blame at Lou's feet though.

But I'm guessing he was leaning more toward leaving then staying regardless of GM's etc.

So for instance, why pay a Hyman or a Brown 2.5 million when every summer there's a Tyler Ennis sitting around for free who will play for 800K ?
- James_Tanner

You actually put out a half decent blog, and then you type this?

this is why you get flamed. it's for saying stuff like this. you're completely altering the common definition of a #1 defence to support a narrative about a player that you cannot let go of. a #1 is a guy who can anchor a top pair and give you 22-27 elite minutes/night. lots of teams don't have them because there are not 31 of those guys in the NHL.

it's not possible for anyone who watched that Leaf-Bruin to series to walk thinking "damn that Jason Muzzin is one of the best in the league".
- DoubleDown

Muzzin played exclusively against the Bruins top line, arguably the best line in the NHL, and he did it with Zaitsev as his partner.

For seven games, he was three shot-attempts away from even and was -2 while picking up two points.


With a weak partner against the league's best line, I'd say he is easily a #1. Unless, you want to say that there's only ten or so true number-ones, then I'll concede and say he's a great top pairing guy.

Irrelevant.

Wasn't gonna play any games.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Right, but TOR may have played someone other than BOS in round 1 if they had a better backup in the regular season....

Muzzin played exclusively against the Bruins top line, arguably the best line in the NHL, and he did it with Zaitsev as his partner.

For seven games, he was three shot-attempts away from even and was -2 while picking up two points.


With a weak partner against the league's best line, I'd say he is easily a #1. Unless, you want to say that there's only ten or so true number-ones, then I'll concede and say he's a great top pairing guy.
- James_Tanner

When someone thinks of a #1 Dman, most of us think of Burns, Hedman, Jones, etc. No one putz Muzzin in that category except you. He a good Dmen with good stats/Corsi, and he very well may be in the top 31 dmen in the league, but he's not a number 1 Dman. Many teams in the league don't have a true # 1 , just like some teams don't have a true #1 Center. It's simple, why do you complicate things?

Right, but TOR may have played someone other than BOS in round 1 if they had a better backup in the regular season....
- doublechili

0% chance of that happening.

Tampa ran away with the division and no team in the league was even remotely close to them.

Both Wild Cards were from the Metro Division. Was always gonna be Boston.

Muzzin played exclusively against the Bruins top line, arguably the best line in the NHL, and he did it with Zaitsev as his partner.

For seven games, he was three shot-attempts away from even and was -2 while picking up two points.


With a weak partner against the league's best line, I'd say he is easily a #1. Unless, you want to say that there's only ten or so true number-ones, then I'll concede and say he's a great top pairing guy.
- James_Tanner

Wait!, What?....Now quality of competition, And +/- are somehow useful stats? You sir(using this loosely) Are a joke!

Wait!, What?....Now quality of competition, And +/- are somehow useful stats? You sir(using this loosely) Are a joke!
- camfor

Is it me or do every one of Tanner's blog end with most people ripping him for same BS he always spews?

Is it me or do every one of Tanner's blog end with most people ripping him for same BS he always spews?
- rrentz

It’s always the same people ripping him so I wouldn’t put too much stock in it.

It’s always the same people ripping him so I wouldn’t put too much stock in it.
- shack67

I'm usually one of them, and he brings it on himself 99% of the time

I'm usually one of them, and he brings it on himself 99% of the time
- rrentz

Actually, rrentz, you've been pretty fair. You only rip on Tanner when he posts something stupid. Oh, wait, I guess that is 99% of the time. Ok, never mind!


Can't believe I'm backing a Rangers fan. The world's gone crazy! Cats and dogs living together; Trump telling the truth; one of Ek's rumors coming true; when will the madness end???

Actually, rrentz, you've been pretty fair. You only rip on Tanner when he posts something stupid. Oh, wait, I guess that is 99% of the time. Ok, never mind!


Can't believe I'm backing a Rangers fan. The world's gone crazy! Cats and dogs living together; Trump telling the truth; one of Ek's rumors coming true; when will the madness end???
- temmer29

Haha. Thanks! We ain't all bad.

It is one crazy mad world we live in

I'm usually one of them, and he brings it on himself 99% of the time
- rrentz

You've just proved his point. Being insulted by you is like being complimented.

You've just proved his point. Being insulted by you is like being complimented.
- James_Tanner

Whatever you say Jimmy, we ALL know YOU is all YOU listen too.

You are laughing stock of this whole site, which if intended by you, is genius....but I'm sure it's not

Books = Good

Phones = Bad

I knew there was a reason I like dreading you Tanner.

And what is there to talk about Coyotes hockey right now. Absolutely nothing. Even the Coyotes website is on vacation now.

Thanks for the entertainment.

You've just proved his point. Being insulted by you is like being complimented.
- James_Tanner

Muzzin has scored over 40 points 3 times in the 10 years he has played. That is not consistently scoring 40 points every year. If you really believe muzzin is a #1 dman you are an absolute moron