"I'm sure her father is proud."
- Der Kaiser

No, Butt her plastic surgeon is...and rich.

Risto for Cirelli and Cernak is something I could get behind
- Pegullaville

Me too, I doubt they trade a yound Dman...he has looked great, so I get the attraction.

But with $11m tied up in three 32+ UFA Dmen, I see them letting all of them walking and backfilling with lower cost options like Cernak., on an ELC..
and Cal Foote who is next to come up.

Also, in any trade with TB, I can see them forcing Callahan on the team for more Cap Relief.
Since their strength right now is scoring forwards, IMO it is there that the opportunity to take advantage exists.

Looks like the Red Wings won the Oliwer Kaski sweepstakes. Damn.
- Pegullaville

And so the Stevie Y magic begins in Detroit.

David Backes, on the difference between Round 2 and Round 1: “This series is a little more typical playoff hockey, I think, than maybe playing Toronto, [which] likes to stretch it out and send 150-foot passes by you. It’s a man game [vs. #CBJ]. It’s more will than skill."

It's a man's game playing against CBus and not TO

Cap hit - $74m -----Cap Space $5.5 (I didn't finish the defense)

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Athanasiou-Mitts-Gourde
Olofsson-Hayes-Rodrigues
Wilson-Cirelli-Callahan
Sobotka
Asplund

Dahlin-Montour
McCabe-Bogo
Pilut-Nelson
Hunwick

Signings: Hayes (5year/$30), Skinner(8x$8.5)

Trades:

1.) Cirelli, Anthony
Callahan, Ryan
Gourde, Yanni

for

Ristolainen, Rasmus
Nylander, Alexander
2020 2nd round pick (BUF)


2.) Athanasiou, Andreas
2019 5th round pick (DET)

for

Okposo, Kyle
2019 1st round pick (BUF) - yup

3.)BUF (to edmonton)

2019 3rd round pick (NYI)

EDM

Sheary, Conor

4.) 2020 5th round pick (DAL)

DAL

Scandella, Marco
- jcragcrumple

Fun lineup, but I think that would be incredibly hard to pull off

I like Hayes, but if you have Cirelli in the fold, he can definitely hold down the fort there at 3C...maybe even push Mitts for 2C.
Save the Hayes money.

Can they acquire a young 55 pt C in Athanasiou for 7th OA and also take onOkposo's contract?
I think that would be a wet dream ... it is Stevie Y in control there now, very doubtful.

So, what about VO for the left side with Mitts and for 1 year continue with Sheary fir the 3rd?

Casey also had almost the identical rookie year to Tyler Seguin.
- RhinoFan

Ya, but Sequin was partying his ass off...to the point he was traded.

Ya, but Sequin was partying his ass off...to the point he was traded.
- IonSabres

No, he was traded because they had a moron for a GM.

It's a man's game playing against CBus and not TO
- adambuffalo

Two groups of men playing the body and getting it in deep

Fun lineup, but I think that would be incredibly hard to pull off

I like Hayes, but if you have Cirelli in the fold, he can definitely hold down the fort there at 3C...maybe even push Mitts for 2C.
Save the Hayes money.

Can they acquire a young 55 pt C in Athanasiou for 7th OA and also take onOkposo's contract?
I think that would be a wet dream ... it is Stevie Y in control there now, very doubtful.

So, what about VO for the left side with Mitts and for 1 year continue with Sheary fir the 3rd?
- IonSabres

I don't mean to target you specifically with this comment, but it seems like there's a belief among sabres fans that the 7oa pick is both:

A: too good to trade

And

B: Not worth enough to solve complex problems via trade

It seems to me that both of those things can't be simultaneously true. That said, AA is probably too much of a high-caliber player for that scenario without additional pieces

No, he was traded because they had a moron for a GM.
- Wetbandit1

That too.

Two groups of men playing the body and getting it in deep
- jcragcrumple

Personally not my type of porn, but I won't judge.

I don't mean to target you specifically with this comment, but it seems like there's a belief among sabres fans that the 7oa pick is both:

A: too good to trade

And

B: Not worth enough to solve complex problems via trade

It seems to me that both of those things can't be simultaneously true. That said, AA is probably too much of a high-caliber player for that scenario without additional pieces
- jcragcrumple

What it would take is a great question. No one here is taking Ericksson/Lucic for a 1st and giving a real player. We have more room and need for picks than most teams, certainly more than Detroit.

The merits of doing it, then signing Hayes to a deal that is unlikely to look good a couple years out is interesting to me. Looking long term, the combination of both moves feels awful.

I don't mean to target you specifically with this comment, but it seems like there's a belief among sabres fans that the 7oa pick is both:

A: too good to trade

And

B: Not worth enough to solve complex problems via trade

It seems to me that both of those things can't be simultaneously true. That said, AA is probably too much of a high-caliber player for that scenario without additional pieces
- jcragcrumple

Well, only in the context of the proposed trade, yes it isn't enough to balance out taking on a $6m contract for 4 (or us it 5?) years for effectively a 4th line winger...and then to also trade away a 24 yr old C producing 55 pts on a crappy team...that production is worth the 7-OA by itself
So No, the 7-OA doesn't have that much value. More would be required for sure.

And the 7-OA in this draft is going to yield a stud player...kinda of like a 3rd OA in some other drafts. We should expect a top 6, maybe a top 3 F in 2 years time.

Well, only in the context of the proposed trade, yes it isn't enough to balance out taking on a $6m contract for 4 (or us it 5?) years for effectively a 4th line winger...and then to also trade away a 24 yr old C producing 55 pts on a crappy team...that production is worth the 7-OA by itself
So No, the 7-OA doesn't have that much value. More would be required for sure.

And the 7-OA in this draft is going to yield a stud player...kinda of like a 3rd OA in some other drafts. We should expect a top 6, maybe a top 3 F in 2 years time.
- IonSabres

Just like Nylander was going to be great, Risto was going to be a #1. Mitts was going to be a #1 Center.

I’m cautiously optimistic that the pick will be good, but I’m not annoucing anyone as lottery caliber at 7

Just like Nylander was going to be great, Risto was going to be a #1. Mitts was going to be a #1 Center.

I’m cautiously optimistic that the pick will be good, but I’m not annoucing anyone as lottery caliber at 7
- ImThatGuy

Mitts still has high end 2C upside, Risto has carved out a pretty good career before the age of 24 and still has a career ahead of him, Nylander could very well earn a full time role this year and prove us all wrong, or at least be used as a trade chip to acquire a peace that can be a part of the puzzle for this team.

Well, only in the context of the proposed trade, yes it isn't enough to balance out taking on a $6m contract for 4 (or us it 5?) years for effectively a 4th line winger...and then to also trade away a 24 yr old C producing 55 pts on a crappy team...that production is worth the 7-OA by itself
So No, the 7-OA doesn't have that much value. More would be required for sure.

And the 7-OA in this draft is going to yield a stud player...kinda of like a 3rd OA in some other drafts. We should expect a top 6, maybe a top 3 F in 2 years time.
- IonSabres

That's what I'm saying tho. The pick is gonna get us a STUD, but it's not enough for a meaningful trade? Both of those things can't be true, or else the team accepting 7oa would be foaming at the mouth to draft there

That's what I'm saying tho. The pick is gonna get us a STUD, but it's not enough for a meaningful trade? Both of those things can't be true, or else the team accepting 7oa would be foaming at the mouth to draft there
- jcragcrumple

Keep the pick and draft. The other first rounder is a different story though. I’d keep it unless the trade makes too much sense, but it’s a lot easier to part with then 7OA.

Just like Nylander was going to be great, Risto was going to be a #1. Mitts was going to be a #1 Center.

I’m cautiously optimistic that the pick will be good, but I’m not annoucing anyone as lottery caliber at 7
- ImThatGuy

Ok.
I may be a bit excited about this draft.
Cozens, Dach, Krebs, Zegras, Boldy, Caufield.
Good stuff there!

That's what I'm saying tho. The pick is gonna get us a STUD, but it's not enough for a meaningful trade? Both of those things can't be true, or else the team accepting 7oa would be foaming at the mouth to draft there
- jcragcrumple

It isn't either or.
Especially the way the trade proposed is constructed.
Trading 2C who is still young AND taking on dead contract fir 4 or 5 years at $6M.

C'mon, you can certainly see the difference.

If I'm Steve Y, I am asking for the Sabres 2020 1st as well, no protection either. I'm probably thinking I may need more
2019 1st, 7th OA ... I already have what the hope for that pick turns into...need more.
2020 1st, ?-OA to eat $6m a year and have to place an old ineffective player in the line-up for 4/5 more years.

Would you?

If SY bit on that, I'd ask him to take Scandella and Sobotka for Dylan Larkin, lol!

It isn't either or.
Especially the way the trade proposed is constructed.
Trading 2C who is still young AND taking on dead contract fir 4 or 5 years at $6M.

C'mon, you can certainly see the difference.

If I'm Steve Y, I am asking for the Sabres 2020 1st as well, no protection either. I'm probably thinking I may need more
2019 1st, 7th OA ... I already have what the hope for that pick turns into...need more.
2020 1st, ?-OA to eat $6m a year and have to place an old ineffective player in the line-up for 4/5 more years.

Would you?

If SY bit on that, I'd ask him to take Scandella and Sobotka for Dylan Larkin, lol!
- IonSabres

No one likes the flip side of these deals. Buffalo is a more logical landing place for a bad contract than many of the places we want to ship Okposo off to.

I can't imagine Okposo moving without bringing back bad money.

It isn't either or.
Especially the way the trade proposed is constructed.
Trading 2C who is still young AND taking on dead contract fir 4 or 5 years at $6M.

C'mon, you can certainly see the difference.

If I'm Steve Y, I am asking for the Sabres 2020 1st as well, no protection either. I'm probably thinking I may need more
2019 1st, 7th OA ... I already have what the hope for that pick turns into...need more.
2020 1st, ?-OA to eat $6m a year and have to place an old ineffective player in the line-up for 4/5 more years.

Would you?

If SY bit on that, I'd ask him to take Scandella and Sobotka for Dylan Larkin, lol!
- IonSabres

I guess I'm still at the same place then. Why should I be excited for 7oa if it's not that valuable? If GMs don't value it highly, why should I?

I guess I'm still at the same place then. Why should I be excited for 7oa if it's not that valuable? If GMs don't value it highly, why should I?
- jcragcrumple

It is very valuable. Who says it isn’t ?

It is very valuable. Who says it isn’t ?
- Pegullaville

I love watching all the talent in these playoffs

McAvoy
Werenski
DeBrusk
Pastrnak

I assume they were all picked first

Refs blew that call big time. F ucking brutal.

They throw Eakin out of the game but McAvoy get's 2 minutes. The NHL needs an overhaul.