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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 7 @ 11:10 PM ET
How many Skinner passes or assists can you recollect off the top of your head ?
- Pegullaville

CLANK


I kid I kid
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 7 @ 11:12 PM ET
jack only got 5 more points then ROR this season

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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 7 @ 11:13 PM ET
How many Skinner passes or assists can you recollect off the top of your head ? One maybe two ? Most of his primary assists id wager were shots that rebounded to someone else. I’m not saying there is anything wrong with that, but he doesn’t really dominate possession in the offensive zone or set up many offensive chances for his linemates, he gets the puck in the zone and the only thing on his mind is shooting even if it is a low percentage shot.
- Pegullaville


Guess I just think of playmaking and setting up two different things. Individually generating opportunities is a pretty special skill. Eichel has it. Skinner has. Dahlin has it.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 7 @ 11:14 PM ET
he is elite because we want to believe that


rank the top 30 centers, he is middle of the pack

- homiedclown


Top 5 player in the NHL at some exits and entries, top 5 in SOG, top 10 in assists. Top 20 in PPG in the league with nobody else within the top 80. He is a top 10 Centre in the league who would be top 5 if we had an effective PP and not having to raise the play of others who we boast about on this site on a regular basis.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 7 @ 11:19 PM ET
jack only got 5 more points then ROR this season

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- homiedclown


ROR really shot out of a cannon the first few months of the season before settling back down towards his Sabres production after the beginning of February. Good PP production and Tarasenko and Schenn proved to combine to make quite the line.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 7 @ 11:29 PM ET
I see him back to the 28-32 goal guy with a % in the 14.5 range.

Law of averages. He wasn’t as good of a goal scorer when he was 3rd in the league and he’s not as bad of a goal scorer when he went snake bitten 1 for seemingly all of 2019.

- dadeadhead


He shot 14.9% this year!!!
That drop of .4% that u see would result in 1 less goal... so 39goals

What did u think his shooting % was this year???
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

May 7 @ 11:36 PM ET
he is elite because we want to believe that


rank the top 30 centers, he is middle of the pack

- homiedclown



So if you are Top 15 centers in the league, how are you not a Number 1 Line Center?

please, continue....
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 7 @ 11:39 PM ET
jack only got 5 more points then ROR this season

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- homiedclown


I guess his peers knew what they were talking about when they voted ROR the most underrated player in the league last year
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 7 @ 11:44 PM ET
Agreed, just that for me personally, the gap between skinner and tkachuks offence isn't nearly as big as the gap defensively.

I like them both tbh

- Sabresfan-365


Definitely, but comparing offensive numbers isn't really fair when one team scores 63 more goals.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

May 7 @ 11:44 PM ET
I guess his peers knew what they were talking about when they voted ROR the most underrated player in the league last year
- jdfitz77


Hope he loses the face off that leads to the OT Winner
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 7 @ 11:49 PM ET
jack is a number 2 center, not an elite 1 center
- homiedclown

I can't find the Sabres playoff games, can you ?
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

May 7 @ 11:54 PM ET
I can't find the Sabres playoff games, can you ?
- SABRES 89



I'm watching the Devils vs. Sabres and Hasek right now awaiting Dave Hannan

oh wait, its 2019 and this is the Stars vs. Blues
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 7 @ 11:59 PM ET
That wrap around is going to haunt Benn forever.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 8 @ 12:00 AM ET
Ruh-roh
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 8 @ 12:06 AM ET
Well of course.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 8 @ 12:22 AM ET
Hope he loses the face off that leads to the OT Winner
- MEBSabresFAN


So much for that

It was hard cheering for the Stars
Just didn’t feel right

Can’t believe I’ve gotta cheer for Carolina in the east, but f#ck the Bruins
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 8 @ 12:24 AM ET
If the Sharks win tomorrow night, we’ll either be picking 30th or 31st in the first round. Frank the Stars.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 8 @ 12:29 AM ET
Well that pick for O'Reilly is absolute garbo. Strange how bad that trade looks....
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 8 @ 12:31 AM ET
If the Sharks win tomorrow night, we’ll either be picking 30th or 31st in the first round. Frank the Stars.
- Pegullaville


I’ll take it a step further

If SJ wins tomorrow night...
it’s our 2 “cancers” going up against each other to go to the Cup
And it’s not like anyone wants to cheer for the stupid Canes or f#cking Bruins

This could be a nightmare final4 for a lot of Sabres fans
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 8 @ 12:33 AM ET
If the Sharks win tomorrow night, we’ll either be picking 30th or 31st in the first round. Frank the Stars.
- Pegullaville


Fingers crossed that Spencer Knight is still available that late
Doubtful though
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 8 @ 12:33 AM ET
Well that pick for O'Reilly is absolute garbo. Strange how bad that trade looks....
- Mentalorgasm5


Best case scenario now is that San Jose represents the West in the final and the Blues pick goes to the Ducks in the Montour trade. So then it would be ROR and Guhle for Montour and Thompson.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 8 @ 12:39 AM ET
Best case scenario now is that San Jose represents the West in the final and the Blues pick goes to the Ducks in the Montour trade. So then it would be ROR and Guhle for Montour and Thompson.
- Pegullaville


Plus we got a 2nd and 2 Cap dumps,
i mean “solid, fast, top9” forwards
Ugh
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 8 @ 12:46 AM ET
Plus we got a 2nd and 2 Cap dumps,
i mean “solid, fast, top9” forwards
Ugh

- jdfitz77


Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 8 @ 1:22 AM ET
I guess I was a little premature on the "here we go".

Oh well.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 8 @ 1:28 AM ET
Best case scenario now is that San Jose represents the West in the final and the Blues pick goes to the Ducks in the Montour trade. So then it would be ROR and Guhle for Montour and Thompson.
- Pegullaville


It's pathetic to me that people will use this to criticize the trade. Regardless of how these picks play out, the RoR trade will always be tied to the Skinner and Montour trades. There's really no need for people to squirm and strain to pretend otherwise.
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