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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 8 @ 3:59 PM ET
I think he will be shopped but only for the right price.

They won’t trade him for the sake of trading him.

- Santo_44


Spurgeon and Zucker for Kadri, Brown and a B-level prospect.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 8 @ 4:01 PM ET
You "believed" Leafs in 5.

Doesn't change the truth though.

- JohnFergusonJr


I "believe" I took you seriously, once.

If Subban is available, and you can fit the cap hit in, why would you not make a move for him?

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 8 @ 4:01 PM ET
You "believed" Leafs in 5.

Doesn't change the truth though.

- JohnFergusonJr


If you think that’s related to the topic then you are not very bright.

Look at the stats.

You’ll see some players have had hat tricks in game 7 and then -3 in the next. Some will be great for two and bad for two. Some will be a healthy scratch for one then the OT hero the next

Or you can zero in on one sample size and call it a fact. It seems like that’s the way you want to do it.

Not the smartest way to do it.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 8 @ 4:02 PM ET
Spurgeon and Zucker for Kadri, Brown and a B-level prospect.
- PatC80

Adding brown and a B level prospect doesn’t get you Zucker.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 8 @ 4:02 PM ET
I think he will be shopped but only for the right price.

They won’t trade him for the sake of trading him.

- Santo_44


Should be able to get a top 4 righty for him.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 8 @ 4:05 PM ET
Adding brown and a B level prospect doesn’t get you Zucker.
- Santo_44



I hope it could, Zucker had a down year.. Minnesota has a lot of players on the wrong side of 30, they could use some younger players.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
I "believe" I took you seriously, once.

If Subban is available, and you can fit the cap hit in, why would you not make a move for him?

- PatC80


Because he's over rated. And could quickly become a distraction rather than a solution.

He's not bad (like Gudas) but the Leafs should aim to do better.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
If you think that’s related to the topic then you are not very bright.

Look at the stats.

You’ll see some players have had hat tricks in game 7 and then -3 in the next.

Or you can zero in on one sample size and call it a fact. It seems like that’s the way you want to do it.

Not the smartest way to do it.

- Santo_44


Ah passive aggressive insults...

I smile and nod at you.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
We'd be better off, if we had McDavid too.. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen..

If Subban is available, we should definitely go after him.. There are not a lot of RHD that are better than Subban and he can take a lot of pressure off of Rielly.

- PatC80

Did you see Wedgie's post about trading for Subban?

People underestimate Wedgie's smarts, because he's so good looking and has such a large richard.

But the dude really comes up with good hockey trades.

And he has a huge richard.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 8 @ 4:07 PM ET
I hope it could, Zucker had a down year.. Minnesota has a lot of players on the wrong side of 30, they could use some younger players.
- PatC80


like brown and gardiner and petan for dumba before the draft
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 8 @ 4:08 PM ET
Did you see Wedgie's post about trading for Subban?

People underestimate Wedgie's smarts, because he's so good looking and has such a large richard.

But the dude really comes up with good hockey trades.

And he has a huge richard.

- Atomic Wedgie



Yeah, I know about the huge richard from "first-hand" experience. I can vouch for the good looking part and the huge Richard too... Wait, what are we talking about again?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 8 @ 4:09 PM ET
like brown and gardiner and petan for dumba before the draft
- TheMussel

No.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 8 @ 4:09 PM ET
Yeah, I know about the huge richard from "first-hand" experience. I can vouch for the good looking part and the huge Richard too... Wait, what are we talking about again?
- PatC80

We're talking about drinks, dinner and dancing.

What happens after that is strictly off the record.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 8 @ 4:09 PM ET
Yeah, I know about the huge richard from "first-hand" experience. I can vouch for the good looking part and the huge Richard too... Wait, what are we talking about again?
- PatC80


smegma
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 8 @ 4:10 PM ET
We're talking about drinks, dinner and dancing.

What happens after that is strictly off the record.

- Atomic Wedgie


That's it....... P.K Subban.. Yeah, we should go after him, if he's available
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 8 @ 4:13 PM ET
polak was so god awful he played 20 mins of steady eddy hockey for the Dallas stars a game, but not good enough for the Leafs. He would have been useful against the Bruins taking cheap shots at the Leafs top player.
- aminnes



Interesting stat;

Last night, the shot attempts were 38-7 in favour of St. Louis with Polak on ice for Dallas.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 8 @ 4:13 PM ET
Subban? There's no cap space. They have to remove millions just to get a full roster for next year.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 8 @ 4:14 PM ET
Interesting stat;

Last night, the shot attempts were 38-7 in favour of St. Louis with Polak on ice for Dallas.

- PatC80


Wait, Polak was on the ice alone against 5 blues? WTF were they thinking?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 8 @ 4:14 PM ET
Wait, Polak was on the ice alone against 5 blues? WTF were they thinking?
- aminnes

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 8 @ 4:16 PM ET
Ah passive aggressive insults...

I smile and nod at you.

- JohnFergusonJr


Smart way of avoiding the debate.

Keep believing game 7 is some sort of magical fairytale land.

What’s Andersen’s stats for game 5?

Or game 6 when facing elimination?

All such important stats.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 8 @ 4:17 PM ET
I hope it could, Zucker had a down year.. Minnesota has a lot of players on the wrong side of 30, they could use some younger players.
- PatC80

Unlikely.

That kind of package gets you Larsson, Benning and a draft pick.

Brown and a B-prospect doesn’t have the value of a top 6 forward locked up for 6 years.

Would you do Muzzin and Kadri for Spurgeon Foligno and a pick?

It’s essentially what you are offering.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 8 @ 4:22 PM ET
Unlikely.

That kind of package gets you Larsson, Benning and a draft pick.

Brown and a B-prospect doesn’t have the value of a top 6 forward locked up for 6 years.

Would you do Muzzin and Kadri for Spurgeon Foligno and a pick?

It’s essentially what you are offering.

- Santo_44


I actually like your idea of Larsson and Benning.. They are both RHD.

Also, no I wouldn't do that trade.. It's wishful thinking on my part.. Zucker had a down year, but he's still only 26 and would fit in nicely with our core group here.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 8 @ 4:22 PM ET
Smart way of avoiding the debate.

Keep believing game 7 is some sort of magical fairytale land.

What’s Andersen’s stats for game 5?

Or game 6 when facing elimination?

All such important stats.

- Santo_44


It's actually worth noting that his only really bad game was game 4, when they had the chance to up 3-1.
mel_vin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

May 8 @ 4:40 PM ET
You're right. I didn't have the 1.2m retained for Kessel. They could do shifty cap movesby shuttling waiver ineligible guys back and forth to the Marlies during homestands. But really . . .they're better off shedding at least $1m out of there.
- Monkeypunk

Marner is not signing for less than 10. Daddy will make sure of that...
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

May 8 @ 4:43 PM ET
Nashville just signed Ellis to an 8 yr/$50M deal, why would they trade him now?

Subban only has 3 years left on his deal, plus he'll be pushing 33, he won't get $9M again

- PatC80


And we just signed Nylander to a 6 year deal, and already talks of trading him, what's the difference?

Just because a player signed a new contract doesn't mean they can't or won't be traded.

That being said, I can't see Nashville trading Ellis. Would be nice if the Lsafs were somehow able to get him though.
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