Tanner says that’d be Jakob Chychrun.
- Wildschwein

Hronek > Chychrun.

It won’t be for now anyways because he had no reason to show any loyalty
- RatedR80

He’ll trade for Abdelkader. Given us Yammer for him straight up.

He’ll trade for Abdelkader. Given us Yammer for him straight up.
- RafiDRW

After careful consideration (1 second) I’m going to have to pass

He’ll trade for Abdelkader. Given us Yammer for him straight up.
- RafiDRW

I’m not terribly high on Yamamoto. Since your Wings are in rebuild/retool mode, why don’t we swap Yamamoto the 8th and Russell, for Zadina and the lesser Svechnikov?

Hronek > Chychrun.
- RafiDRW

Truth.

What exactly has yzerman accomplished with tampa so far?? Just putting things in perspective for you. Last I saw he built a team too soft for the playoffs.
- oil90

This is a played out old school nhl trope that is nothing more than a cliche at this point. It’s about as meaningful as “team x just wanted it more” after a 7 game series.
The bolts loss had nothing to do with being too soft.
They lost some momentum and ran into a buzzsaw. That’s it

Same as There is no playoff flaw with the preds or the jets or the caps or the knights. All teams that went out in a crazy first round.
Everyone of those teams are certainly good enough to win the cup.
Did the sharks all of a sudden get tough enough? They added one significant player from last years run.
and toughness isn’t the defining feature of Erik Karlsson.

And all those teams will be good again next year and in there with a shot next spring.

And this theme works with your final question too. All a gm can really do in today’s game is build a team that has a window of opportunity and can be in the upper echelon on a yearly basis for awhile. And hope the chips fall during the spring in one of those years as a contender. Stevie y has done that and then some

What exactly has yzerman accomplished with tampa so far?? Just putting things in perspective for you. Last I saw he built a team too soft for the playoffs.
- oil90

Built an elite team packed with exceptional young talent at every position and consistently drafted and developed quality out of mid-to-low round picks (Point, Cirelli, Joseph, Dotchin, Paquette, Kucherov, etc) while icing a thoroughly entertaining product for his team's fans.

Once you include his Cup final appearance, almost everything except win a Cup.

Built an elite team packed with exceptional young talent at every position and consistently drafted and developed quality out of mid-to-low round picks (Point, Cirelli, Joseph, Dotchin, Paquette, Kucherov, etc) while icing a thoroughly entertaining product for his team's fans.

Once you include his Cup final appearance, almost everything except win a Cup.
- MaximumBone

Built an elite team packed with exceptional young talent at every position and consistently drafted and developed quality out of mid-to-low round picks (Point, Cirelli, Joseph, Dotchin, Paquette, Kucherov, etc) while icing a thoroughly entertaining product for his team's fans.

Once you include his Cup final appearance, almost everything except win a Cup.
- MaximumBone

With 20 mil in cap space and lots of draft picks it’s a safe bet that Detroit is going to be going places and sooner rather then later with Yzerman running things

With 20 mil in cap space and lots of draft picks it’s a safe bet that Detroit is going to be going places and sooner rather then later with Yzerman running things
- RatedR80

Still probably looking at a solid 2 years or so, but yeah. Probably a quicker turnaround now. Hronek is quality and Cholowski has promise, but that D corps doesn't do much for me. I think Dekeyser is better than he gets credit for and Green still has talent suited for the new league. Kronwall might've used up his last juice and Daley and Ericsson are likely done.

I can see Stralman going there and Karlsson going there would be pretty cool. Might be able to fix some stuff quicker than I think.

Still probably looking at a solid 2 years or so, but yeah. Probably a quicker turnaround now. Hronek is quality and Cholowski has promise, but that D corps doesn't do much for me. I think Dekeyser is better than he gets credit for and Green still has talent suited for the new league. Kronwall might've used up his last juice and Daley and Ericsson are likely done.

I can see Stralman going there and Karlsson going there would be pretty cool. Might be able to fix some stuff quicker than I think.
- MaximumBone

Depends on what his mentality is I guess.....he could ask Tampa about Point as well if contract talks go bad there....has the money to pursue EK if that’s what he wants.....he is certainly better set up for success then we are

Gambardella sure had himself a game tonight with a hat trick and 5 points total

Bouchard has 5 points in 5 games

Depends on what his mentality is I guess.....he could ask Tampa about Point as well if contract talks go bad there....has the money to pursue EK if that’s what he wants.....he is certainly better set up for success then we are
- RatedR80

I don't know that I agree.

He's certainly better equipped to build the kind of team he wants but, despite the flaws of our roster, we still boast a better future IMO. An elite trio of forwards that theirs can't even compare to (McDavid, Drai and Nuge Vs Larkin, Mantha and AA or Zadina) and a slightly better current D corps with a better future (Bouchard, Jones, Samorukov, Lagesson, Bear Vs Hronek, Cholowski, Hicketts, Regula, Saarijarvi).

Our issue is too much cap committed to less-than-great players. Move some money and allocate the space to a UFA winger and a trade acquisition over the next year and a half and we're probably sitting pretty... aside from in net.

I don't know that I agree.

He's certainly better equipped to build the kind of team he wants but, despite the flaws of our roster, we still boast a better future IMO. An elite trio of forwards that theirs can't even compare to (McDavid, Drai and Nuge Vs Larkin, Mantha and AA or Zadina) and a slightly better current D corps with a better future (Bouchard, Jones, Samorukov, Lagesson, Bear Vs Hronek, Cholowski, Hicketts, Regula, Saarijarvi).

Our issue is too much cap committed to less-than-great players. Move some money and allocate the space to a UFA winger and a trade acquisition over the next year and a half and we're probably sitting pretty... aside from in net.
- MaximumBone

The cap is more or less where I’m going with it.....yes Yzerman doesn’t have a McDavid/Drai combo to work with but he has the means to make the overall team better....this does all change if Holland can make some smooth moves to free up cap space without killing us....if he does that then obviously we are in better shape (if he acquires the right players of course)

The cap is more or less where I’m going with it.....yes Yzerman doesn’t have a McDavid/Drai combo to work with but he has the means to make the overall team better....this does all change if Holland can make some smooth moves to free up cap space without killing us....if he does that then obviously we are in better shape (if he acquires the right players of course)
- RatedR80

I think we have a year of removing before we start building it back up. We have a strong core, and foundation in the pipe. What is needed is support. Dollars need to be made available. May cost us a few building blocks to make happen, but if we can free ourselves of Lucic, one of Russell (10 team trade list this year) or Sekera (15 team NTC this year), and possibly Manning it's been a good year. Not sure how the NTC/NMC clauses are affected by Seattle, but then we attach something to the Sekera/Russell piece we cant unload during the year. If possible to shed those pieces, its 17+ coming off the books by 20-21 without eating any buyout funds. May cost us some picks, or taking on a bad contract or so or a prospect. But if Holland is as good as the media and Katz/Bobby say, he should be able to get some of that out of the way.

On a side, does anyone know how the modifieds work? I know Sek is to submit a 15 team list he will not accept a trade to on day one of the NHL Calendar (July 1st), and that lasts for the season. But on June 26 or whenever the expansion happens, is Seattle an open option if he does not submit them on July 1st this year? Russell's is a 10 team to trade to so obviously he would have to include them on his list so it is less likely (imagine he includes them thinking it gives him a year of only having a 9 team list, then they expose him to them and add sek as the piece sent to take him if he has a healthy and productive season!). League season starts July 1st and modifieds need to be presented by then, and the draft is the last week in June. Can some circumvention of rules be exposed? Or has the NHL already blocked that route?

I think we have a year of removing before we start building it back up. We have a strong core, and foundation in the pipe. What is needed is support. Dollars need to be made available. May cost us a few building blocks to make happen, but if we can free ourselves of Lucic, one of Russell (10 team trade list this year) or Sekera (15 team NTC this year), and possibly Manning it's been a good year. Not sure how the NTC/NMC clauses are affected by Seattle, but then we attach something to the Sekera/Russell piece we cant unload during the year. If possible to shed those pieces, its 17+ coming off the books by 20-21 without eating any buyout funds. May cost us some picks, or taking on a bad contract or so or a prospect. But if Holland is as good as the media and Katz/Bobby say, he should be able to get some of that out of the way.

On a side, does anyone know how the modifieds work? I know Sek is to submit a 15 team list he will not accept a trade to on day one of the NHL Calendar (July 1st), and that lasts for the season. But on June 26 or whenever the expansion happens, is Seattle an open option if he does not submit them on July 1st this year? Russell's is a 10 team to trade to so obviously he would have to include them on his list so it is less likely (imagine he includes them thinking it gives him a year of only having a 9 team list, then they expose him to them and add sek as the piece sent to take him if he has a healthy and productive season!). League season starts July 1st and modifieds need to be presented by then, and the draft is the last week in June. Can some circumvention of rules be exposed? Or has the NHL already blocked that route?
- wreckage

Yes we certainly can’t do anything until we can free up cap space....talking of any major additions can’t really happen until we can afford the cap space


So I did some research and I looked at players from each team during the last draft that had to be protected and the only ones that had to be were players with NMC unless the player agrees to waive to be eligible for the draft or players who where LTIR for 60 consecutive games or deemed to have a potential career threatening injury.....so indeed guys who have NTC are not protected and can be made available for the expansion draft

I think we have a year of removing before we start building it back up. We have a strong core, and foundation in the pipe. What is needed is support. Dollars need to be made available. May cost us a few building blocks to make happen, but if we can free ourselves of Lucic, one of Russell (10 team trade list this year) or Sekera (15 team NTC this year), and possibly Manning it's been a good year. Not sure how the NTC/NMC clauses are affected by Seattle, but then we attach something to the Sekera/Russell piece we cant unload during the year. If possible to shed those pieces, its 17+ coming off the books by 20-21 without eating any buyout funds. May cost us some picks, or taking on a bad contract or so or a prospect. But if Holland is as good as the media and Katz/Bobby say, he should be able to get some of that out of the way.

On a side, does anyone know how the modifieds work? I know Sek is to submit a 15 team list he will not accept a trade to on day one of the NHL Calendar (July 1st), and that lasts for the season. But on June 26 or whenever the expansion happens, is Seattle an open option if he does not submit them on July 1st this year? Russell's is a 10 team to trade to so obviously he would have to include them on his list so it is less likely (imagine he includes them thinking it gives him a year of only having a 9 team list, then they expose him to them and add sek as the piece sent to take him if he has a healthy and productive season!). League season starts July 1st and modifieds need to be presented by then, and the draft is the last week in June. Can some circumvention of rules be exposed? Or has the NHL already blocked that route?
- wreckage

Also the expansion draft I read is in June of 2021 and by that point Russell’s and Sekeras deals will have run out as they both expire after the 20/21 season

So... an interesting trade proposal came up in the NJ thread.

LD/3rd for 2019 1st Overall + Anderson + Speers + Severson....

I don't know how I feel about that. A part of me wants to do it. A part of me doesn't.
- EdmHockeyMan

nope

Would the Oilers entertain offers for the 8 pick?

I keep hearing how they need NHL ready players, so I was thinking something along the lines of

Kreider, pick 19-20 (from Jets) and if that isn’t enough throw in Vesey or Namestnikov...for the 8 pick.

I don’t think they’d trade that pick, but figured I’d ask lol. I’d think they feel some pressure to start making the playoffs again, rather then waiting on a kid to pan out in a few years
- Slimtj100

From what I understand about Holland... it's unlikely he would move that pick.

Gambardella sure had himself a game tonight with a hat trick and 5 points total

Bouchard has 5 points in 5 games
- RatedR80

I've heard that Bouchard has looked solid in the AHL playoffs so far.

I’m not terribly high on Yamamoto. Since your Wings are in rebuild/retool mode, why don’t we swap Yamamoto the 8th and Russell, for Zadina and the lesser Svechnikov?
- Wildschwein

No.

I've heard that Bouchard has looked solid in the AHL playoffs so far.
- Reveen.

That’s what they say. Looking like he might be yet another solid up and coming defender.

No.
- RafiDRW

You took that (frank)ing long for a single syllable reply?

I've heard that Bouchard has looked solid in the AHL playoffs so far.
- Reveen.

He hasn't been playing much, but that's to but expected.

He hasn't been playing much, but that's to but expected.
- MaximumBone

Where do you stand on that?

Would you rather Bouchard (as he is our most highly touted defensive prospect) get a bigger role in his new situation (provided he could handle it)?

OR

Would you rather the minutes go to the horses that got the Condors to the playoffs in the first place?