Any dream of Kakko slipping to Hawks died with that goal...
- hankscorpio

Kakko was never falling to #3.

Kakko was never falling to #3.
- DarthKane

Hence my use of the word "dream"

Though a top 3 pick was a dream that came true

Hence my use of the word "dream"

Though a top 3 pick was a dream that came true
- hankscorpio

Stan is drafting Caufield so it doesn't matter anyway.

Lacks defensive zone awareness, I am not so sure his gifts are hiding the necessary hockey IQ to read, so you are not always to over -react.

I just encourage all to watch the CHL prospects game, it will be on again I am sure on cable is other places, I bet. You judge Bowen Byram against those peers, no tip ins of is shots or pinball goals.

The two players are not the same body structure sure, but Boqvist to me reads the ice well everywhere, and is two years from being able physically to do what I ma pretty sure he is aware NHL defenseman have to do with attacking forwards of all sizes. He is Karlsson type no disguise to that.

Byram certainly has TREMENDOUS balance and needs little effort to glide anywhere through the coverages, around the defenders, there is a gift there that we see against WHL players. But he also gets lost.
Boqvist doesn't get lost, just can't follow through.

Prince Albert beat Vancouver Giants 1 - 0 last night, three minor penalties for Giants.

Two calls on Bryam, first period two minute unsportsmanlike conduct
and a two minute interference penalty midway through the 3rd period.
- wiz1901

Do you have concerns that NHL speed and skill will expose his lack of IQ? Even with his highend skating?

You simply don't rush these kids...when you see there is really something there, you take the slow processing point.
He came he saw what it takes and now he perfects it.
and there may be something to the RF stretching, but the word overwhelmed is not one you hear NHL coaches say aboutrvtheir youngsters, because you try to make things the opposite.

I just watched more Cozens and he is really strong on the puck, great jump, recognition, a true flyer...it is such a good class!
- wiz1901

How fast is Cozens? MacKinnon/Mcdavid type speed or a half step below that? I still think the hawks need game changing speed (with size) in the top 6.

The threat of speed keeps opposing Teams D from pinching and taking risks. I'm not sure we see the Hawks get pinned in their own end so much (and see opposing D pinch so much) if there is elite speed going the other way.

The Hawks don't have any elite speed in the top 6. Saad is probably the closest thing they have.

And how many Hawk fans gave Stan poop for the Hawk's cap problems while refusing to credit or acknowledge that the cap problems the Hawks did have were well worth it after winning three Championships.
- paulr

The narrative is give Stan all of the poop and Dale all of the credit. If Dale was not forced out we would have won 8 cups. It is set in stone. We cannot change that.

Agree just think drafting another d man is overkill plus to me if they did draft another d man what does that say about the other d man they have drafted maybe they think some won't pan out or maybe nothing. Here a crazy idea select bryam at 3 trade boquist to L.A. for 5th and take a center and no i m not high.
- Scott1977

No thanks

Lacks defensive zone awareness, I am not so sure his gifts are hiding the necessary hockey IQ to read, so you are not always to over -react.

I just encourage all to watch the CHL prospects game, it will be on again I am sure on cable is other places, I bet. You judge Bowen Byram against those peers, no tip ins of is shots or pinball goals.

The two players are not the same body structure sure, but Boqvist to me reads the ice well everywhere, and is two years from being able physically to do what I ma pretty sure he is aware NHL defenseman have to do with attacking forwards of all sizes. He is Karlsson type no disguise to that.

Byram certainly has TREMENDOUS balance and needs little effort to glide anywhere through the coverages, around the defenders, there is a gift there that we see against WHL players. But he also gets lost.
Boqvist doesn't get lost, just can't follow through.

Prince Albert beat Vancouver Giants 1 - 0 last night, three minor penalties for Giants.

Two calls on Bryam, first period two minute unsportsmanlike conduct
and a two minute interference penalty midway through the 3rd period.
- wiz1901

Where can it be watched?

Where can it be watched?
- walleyeb1

Byram, Cozens, Dach and a bunch of other potential 1st rounders are in this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNw0zOLEglU

Byram, Cozens, Dach and a bunch of other potential 1st rounders are in this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNw0zOLEglU
- EbonyRaptor

Great much appreciated!

Agree just think drafting another d man is overkill plus to me if they did draft another d man what does that say about the other d man they have drafted maybe they think some won't pan out or maybe nothing. Here a crazy idea select bryam at 3 trade boquist to L.A. for 5th and take a center and no i m not high.
- Scott1977

I respectfully disagree, a team can never have too many defensemen. For the sake of this argument let's assume Stan has a brain-fart and doesn't draft Caufield.

It sounds like Byram, Cozens, Turcotte and a few others are all long the same overall talent level for their respective positions. So talent-wise one doesn't stand out over the other.

Byram likely becomes the Hawks #1 D prospect if drafted. We've seen the Hawks defense deteriorate over the past 2-3 seasons. Stocking up on quality D prospects is always a good thing. Will Byram, Boqvist, Beaudin, Jokiharju and Mitchell all hit and become top 4 or even NHL calibre defensemen? Who knows, but it the do the Hawks will either have of of the best defensive cores in the league or some tremendous assets to trade.

If the Hawks don't draft Caufield I'm all-in on Byram.

Kakko was never falling to #3.
- DarthKane

No... no he is not and never was.

https://www.barstoolsport...american-central-scouting

No... no he is not and never was.
- Tyler Cameron

No ... but he may be selected #1 by NJ ... and then NYR selects Caufield (sorry Darth) and the Hawks will have to settle for Hughes.

No ... but he may be selected #1 by NJ ... and then NYR selects Caufield (sorry Darth) and the Hawks will have to settle for Hughes.
- EbonyRaptor

https://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/breaking-down-the-nhl-draft-with-mark-seidel-of-north-american-central-scouting
- kmw4631

https://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/breaking-down-the-nhl-draft-with-mark-seidel-of-north-american-central-scouting
- kmw4631

Seidel is the same guy who also predicted the Hawks were getting an absolute stud of a defenceman when they took Dylan Olsen.

Did somoene already post this--interesting read

https://www.barstoolsport...american-central-scouting

As much as i want what a Cozens projects as able to contribute for the weak sister Blackhawks, if Kakko is available at #3 then you have to take him. Next must fill in with anyone you can find to play more physical & gritty on each line. Someone not talented enough to deserve top two offensive line duty may actually need to play there. Kakko presence means you spread out scoring among three lines. A reward punishment scenario would be tempting to use insofar as motivating Perlini to do the things Colliton wants out of him. And that is not merely scoring goals.

I would give either team drafting aheaf of us our 2019 #2 to exchange slots - i can see New Jersey or Philly agreeing to this although Jerssy may pass if they really want Kakko

After two seasons there should be enough ripening of prospects among dmen and several gritty new forwards among the arsenal (just now beginnning to turn pro) should be here too.

A trade and a free agent could at that time help propel us into a serious playoff contender. The only big concern would be in goal. Detroit prived you can win with average goaltending. And if possible trade Gus for #1 2019 conditiinal if the goaltender or forward you want is available

A bonus would be to trade Mitchell instead of the #2 nust to exchange #1. I like the idea of drafting Tracy or someone else round two.

Thoughts?

As much as i want what a Cozens projects as able to contribute for the weak sister Blackhawks, if Kakko is available at #3 then you have to take him. Next must fill in with anyone you can find to play more physical & gritty on each line. Someone not talented enough to deserve top two offensive line duty may actually need to play there. Kakko presence means you spread out scoring among three lines. A reward punishment scenario would be tempting to use insofar as motivating Perlini to do the things Colliton wants out of him. And that is not merely scoring goals.

I would give either team drafting aheaf of us our 2019 #2 to exchange slots - i can see New Jersey or Philly agreeing to this although Jerssy may pass if they really want Kakko

After two seasons there should be enough ripening of prospects among dmen and several gritty new forwards among the arsenal (just now beginnning to turn pro) should be here too.

A trade and a free agent could at that time help propel us into a serious playoff contender. The only big concern would be in goal. Detroit prived you can win with average goaltending. And if possible trade Gus for #1 2019 conditiinal if the goaltender or forward you want is available

A bonus would be to trade Mitchell instead of the #2 nust to exchange #1. I like the idea of drafting Tracy or someone else round two.

Thoughts?
- jhawk59

Very very very highly unlikely #1 or #2c pick is traded. This is a 2 person draft. After that there are maybe 10 players you could pick #3.

Very very very highly unlikely #1 or #2c pick is traded. This is a 2 person draft. After that there are maybe 10 players you could pick #3.
- -Doh-

I know i know. Wiz has said si since last fall. Here's wishing a Mitchell and a #2 2019 to exchange first round slots. Gain a top four dman and a Cozens to bookend with another physical forward and they still have our #2.

I do not want to trade Gus at least not yet. Might considet for first round on conditional terms if the goaltender or a forward Kelly/Bowman really likes is available. No to Gus in the exchange of top choices. Although that might get the attention of New Jersey but they will insist on overpay.

Any dream of Kakko slipping to Hawks died with that goal...
- hankscorpio

I was listening to it and thought the same thing, especially after New Jersey's Damion Severson almost loosed the Kakko from inside the Kaapo with the super hard clean hit.

That solidified his draft status as before slot three...

Very very very highly unlikely #1 or #2c pick is traded. This is a 2 person draft. After that there are maybe 10 players you could pick #3.
- -Doh-

Yeah they are not trying out, and very doubtful hawks would even drop because they get to come to consensus on what very well right be a future franchise player, and you can't make a trade and say, "Tellus who you would use it on, and if we don't like him as much as the next couple, we will drop down and take our chances with one of them.

Teams LOVE to control the board whether it is the first player in the 1st slot, first player starting what they think is the second tier, or the 3rd tier, you don't have to scramble, just make sure their is consensus agreement on what the puck is bringing to your franchise.

Did somoene already post this--interesting read

https://www.barstoolsport...american-central-scouting
- RaleighHawk

Yeah, besides hold Dylan Olsen's nuts, after I read this answer, "What are some of the holes in Byram’s game, if any?
He doesn’t really have any that I can see. He’s a pretty complete player. He had a dominant year this year for Vancouver. I guess, maybe, you can say that he’s not overly physical, but that could be simply because he doesn’t need to be at this level. That’s also not as big of a concern in the new NHL. (Wiz:maybe hockey IQ in his end doesn't need to be either...)
He’s a notch below Dahlin, but he’s right there with the others. He’s really special. I’m not sure what the Blackhawks development model is or what they’ll do with him next year. Probably send him back to Junior, but he doesn’t have much else to prove at that level.

After awhile, I just start to think the only true FACT is that most persons asked their opinion on any draft class are just piggybacking on the past opinions they have heard or read, and there is no real basis on what "their opinion" is on anyone but the top guy...

Is this guys name Craig Button?

and I love it when they start talking about sleepers...throw a name at me of a guy who is probably sitting there mid-5th round, because he is a sleeper.

Just saying but didn't this guy in the start of Oliver Ekamn-Larssons draft year have him around 75?
My memory is far from flawless but....

BUT...they all still covet these types...come on, he finally was handed a spot and helped revitalize the Hawk PP.

I am not playing Devil's advocate as much as the league still sees Gus' offensive side negating the defensive inconsistencies, the same way a certain Vancouver Giants offense man is being scouted and touted...
- wiz1901

He's not defensively inconsistent. He's consistently terrible at defense.