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TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

May 10 @ 4:16 PM ET
Has Gus been traded yet?



Ironically enough, this team would have competed with Ottawa without Gus....how does that taste?

Remove the empty netters against and Gus is a plus player. Ended up -4.

Ground hog day again...trade gus, trade gus, trade gus.....

Some folks need new material....
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 10 @ 4:27 PM ET
Has Gus been traded yet?



Ironically enough, this team would have competed with Ottawa without Gus....how does that taste?

Remove the empty netters against and Gus is a plus player. Ended up -4.

Ground hog day again...trade gus, trade gus, trade gus.....

Some folks need new material....

- TrueGrit



He needs to be converted to a forward first, then traded.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 10 @ 4:28 PM ET
Kubalik with a goal and an assist for the Czechs (so far).
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

May 10 @ 4:40 PM ET
Kubalik with a goal and an assist for the Czechs (so far).
- DarthKane


His goal was a great example of his release and finishing ability.

He should slide into the RW3 spot if he shows well at training camp.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 10 @ 4:52 PM ET
His goal was a great example of his release and finishing ability.

He should slide into the RW3 spot if he shows well at training camp.

- Tyler Cameron



That would be ideal. I still like Kahun with either Debrincat/Strome or Kane/Toews, Kubalik adding depth on the third line would be awesome.

Edit: I wonder if the Hawks would try Kahun at centre (3C) if AA is dealt?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 10 @ 4:55 PM ET
That would be ideal. I still like Kahun with either Debrincat/Strome or Kane/Toews, Kubalik adding depth on the third line would be awesome.

Edit: I wonder if the Hawks would try Kahun at centre (3C) if AA is dealt?

- DarthKane


Kubalick, Kahun, Saad has the potential for a beast of a third line.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

May 10 @ 5:00 PM ET
That would be ideal. I still like Kahun with either Debrincat/Strome or Kane/Toews, Kubalik adding depth on the third line would be awesome.

Edit: I wonder if the Hawks would try Kahun at centre (3C) if AA is dealt?

- DarthKane


Darth

what are the odds that AA is traded this off season? does he have 1 or 2 more left on his Hawk contract?
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

May 10 @ 5:03 PM ET
Has Gus been traded yet?



Ironically enough, this team would have competed with Ottawa without Gus....how does that taste?

Remove the empty netters against and Gus is a plus player. Ended up -4.

Ground hog day again...trade gus, trade gus, trade gus.....

Some folks need new material....

- TrueGrit


And not only on this board.....See Washington DC.
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

May 10 @ 5:08 PM ET
Darth

what are the odds that AA is traded this off season? does he have 1 or 2 more left on his Hawk contract?

- glennjpawlak22


2 but he is owed $2mil on july 1st then 5 mil over the next 2 years so he is a good value for a budget team. who does not want to spend 15 mil over 4 years on a 3rd line player.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

May 10 @ 5:20 PM ET
Darth

what are the odds that AA is traded this off season? does he have 1 or 2 more left on his Hawk contract?

- glennjpawlak22


I think the chances are good that AA is dealt.

As mentioned below, AA is owed a bonus on July 1st and I believe he'll be gone shortly afterwards. His M-NTC clause is completely removed after that as well so the Hawks can deal him wherever.

He's a solid player still but he hasn't fit on this team the last couple of years.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

May 10 @ 5:20 PM ET
I think the chances are good that AA is dealt.

As mentioned above, AA is owed a bonus on July 1st and I believe he'll be gone shortly afterwards. His M-NTC clause is completely removed after that as well so the Hawks can deal him wherever.

He's a solid player still but he hasn't fit on this team the last couple of years.

- Tyler Cameron

glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

May 10 @ 5:21 PM ET
2 but he is owed $2mil on july 1st then 5 mil over the next 2 years so he is a good value for a budget team. who does not want to spend 15 mil over 4 years on a 3rd line player.
- kmw4631


so we stroke him a $2MM ck on July 2, and then trade him to AZ on July 3rd.
Sn1362
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.10.2014

May 10 @ 5:31 PM ET
Does anyone see Hughes dropping to 3?????
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

May 10 @ 5:32 PM ET
No... no he is not and never was.
- Tyler Cameron


He might be moving up!

I'll tell you, you watch both of those games and seeing Hughes getting rag dolled all over the ice, I'd seriously be thinking about which one I was going to take.

I understand that Hughes will get bigger, but you don't know how much.

jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 10 @ 5:38 PM ET
How fast is Cozens? MacKinnon/Mcdavid type speed or a half step below that? I still think the hawks need game changing speed (with size) in the top 6.

The threat of speed keeps opposing Teams D from pinching and taking risks. I'm not sure we see the Hawks get pinned in their own end so much (and see opposing D pinch so much) if there is elite speed going the other wa
The Hawks don't have any elite speed in the top 6. Saad is probably the closest thing they have.

- bhawks2241


Elite speed = just signed Soderlund. And as a checker maybe one day Fortin

Also Carlsson skates really well and Boqvist. Uncertain how well Beaudin. Gilbert ok. One day we might have a very mobile defence would like to see if they can handle puck control like some of our Cup teams did at times. If Kyrs pans out he has elite speed or good skater for third pair

Until further notice we have Gus and he skates well
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 10 @ 6:00 PM ET
Elite speed = just signed Soderlund. And as a checker maybe one day Fortin

Also Carlsson skates really well and Boqvist. Uncertain how well Beaudin. Gilbert ok. One day we might have a very mobile defence would like to see if they can handle puck control like some of our Cup teams did at times. If Kyrs pans out he has elite speed or good skater for third pair

Until further notice we have Gus and he skates well

- jhawk59


Actually though the four teams in the conference finals are not any faster than the Hawks.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 10 @ 6:08 PM ET
Does anyone see Hughes dropping to 3?????
- Sn1362



No way. If Kakko goes #1 the Rangers will pick Hughes #2.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 10 @ 6:10 PM ET
I think the chances are good that AA is dealt.

As mentioned below, AA is owed a bonus on July 1st and I believe he'll be gone shortly afterwards. His M-NTC clause is completely removed after that as well so the Hawks can deal him wherever.

He's a solid player still but he hasn't fit on this team the last couple of years.

- Tyler Cameron



Agreed. Once the signing bonus is paid I'd say 80% change AA is gone to a budget team like Ottawa, Carolina or NJ. I wouldn't expect much in return, maybe a 3rd and 5th.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

May 10 @ 6:10 PM ET
No way. If Kakko goes #1 the Rangers will pick Hughes #2.
- DarthKane


Still leaves Caufield at #3
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

May 10 @ 6:12 PM ET
Agreed. Once the signing bonus is paid I'd say 80% change AA is gone to a budget team like Ottawa, Carolina or NJ. I wouldn't expect much in return, maybe a 3rd and 5th.
- DarthKane


Cant they trade him before July 1st to one of those teams and include cash in the deal to pay the bonus?

Seems like a deep draft, would rather have picks this year.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

May 10 @ 6:41 PM ET
Actually though the four teams in the conference finals are not any faster than the Hawks.
- LAHawk



Don't agree except the Bruins maybe but they get away with murder most nights.

All the teams left have big/physical skilled guys that can skate.

Man do I love Tomas Hertl.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 10 @ 6:45 PM ET
How fast is Cozens? MacKinnon/Mcdavid type speed or a half step below that? I still think the hawks need game changing speed (with size) in the top 6.

The threat of speed keeps opposing Teams D from pinching and taking risks. I'm not sure we see the Hawks get pinned in their own end so much (and see opposing D pinch so much) if there is elite speed going the other way.

The Hawks don't have any elite speed in the top 6. Saad is probably the closest thing they have.

- bhawks2241



Generally speaking, I agree. But they used to have Stahlberg. Just saying. They need someone with lateral speed (who gains speed as he crosses over) who knows where he needs to go as well as straight ahead speed. Speed without IQ is wasted.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 10 @ 6:53 PM ET
Cant they trade him before July 1st to one of those teams and include cash in the deal to pay the bonus?

Seems like a deep draft, would rather have picks this year.

- vabeachbear


No, his bonus is paid July 1. They would have to retain salary now but that defeats the purpose of a budget team acquiring him (lower salary than cap hit). Cash can’t be part of any deal.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 10 @ 6:55 PM ET
Don't agree except the Bruins maybe but they get away with murder most nights.

All the teams left have big/physical skilled guys that can skate.

Man do I love Tomas Hertl.

- bhawks2241


They might be bigger, but they aren't faster
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 10 @ 7:10 PM ET
Still leaves Caufield at #3
- vabeachbear


Now you’re talking!
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