Late bloomer? Arizona's GM is an analytics guy, maybe Entwhistles numbers weren't where they'd hoped?

Temper all the good I've said about him and factor in the biggest and most difficult step in any sport is to get to the big leagues. Lots of guys look great but the NHL is the great equalizer.
- paulr

Very true. I guess I am just excited for a player who seems to be as good as he is. I am hopeful that he can pan out. He would be a nice, welcomed piece to this team when he is finally ready.

The more I read on Byram, the more I am starting to lean towards hoping the Hawks take him. I know they have taken 3 D in the first round the last two years, but keep stock piling. At some point when these guys are all ready to come up, they could have a nasty blue line.
- frafra

No hawks need a center they have a lot of to pick from another d man thats 3 years in a row. Need top 6 potential in their system they have none and are deep in d prospects.

Panarin is not coming to the hawks plus hawks cannot afford and how do the hawks sign dcat and strome hawks just got out of cap hell lets not get back into cap hell. Unless Panarin is willing to sign for 8 million or less than no he is not what hawks need.
- Scott1977

Never said the Hawks needed Panarin. I was just making a comment on somebody else's post based off if the Hawks were to land him. I do not think they will get him either.
I think it would be irresponsible for Bowman to pay Strome a hefty contract right away. Let's see how he does this year and if he can repeat last season. I think ADB will get paid, but what is he worth? I am hoping the Hawks can sign him to some type of bridge deal.

No hawks need a center they have a lot of to pick from another d man thats 3 years in a row. Need top 6 potential in their system they have none and are deep in d prospects.
- Scott1977

I wouldn't be mad if they drafted a center either. Fortunately they are in a great position to get a solid player.

Late bloomer? Arizona's GM is an analytics guy, maybe Entwhistles numbers weren't where they'd hoped?

Temper all the good I've said about him and factor in the biggest and most difficult step in any sport is to get to the big leagues. Lots of guys look great but the NHL is the great equalizer.
- paulr

Well maybe Stan insisted on one prospect that had NHL promise to include Hino and Osterle with Hossa.

Yesterday, one of the talking heads on the NHL channel on Sirius/XM thought Panarin would want 10M.
- boilermaker100

and yesterday on Sirius they were hyping the Ottawa 67s goalie, unaware he was injured and not going to be playing.....

No hawks need a center they have a lot of to pick from another d man thats 3 years in a row. Need top 6 potential in their system they have none and are deep in d prospects.
- Scott1977

I want Cozens. Elite speed up the middle is too hard to pass. You can put him at wing to start as well. The Hawks top 6 needs a guy that has high end speed and skill.

Size speed and skill is the way the NHL is moving. Kane and Toews will start to slow down. Dcat is a solid skater but nothing special. Strome is an ok skater without much explosiveness.

Late bloomer? Arizona's GM is an analytics guy, maybe Entwhistles numbers weren't where they'd hoped?

Temper all the good I've said about him and factor in the biggest and most difficult step in any sport is to get to the big leagues. Lots of guys look great but the NHL is the great equalizer.
- paulr

Bolland is a good example. He was an elite scorer in Juniors if I recall. Had to play defense to make an impact in the show.

Late bloomer? Arizona's GM is an analytics guy, maybe Entwhistles numbers weren't where they'd hoped?

Temper all the good I've said about him and factor in the biggest and most difficult step in any sport is to get to the big leagues. Lots of guys look great but the NHL is the great equalizer.
- paulr

I think this was more about
a) san wanted a young player back,

b) Arizona GM was more aware of the crap load of same age guys and knew that he could play all of them and


c) he made that trade with hawks b.c he was getting what he thought was enough help in Hinostoza (speed etc) to help them make playoffs now.

I don't think analytics were the driving force in the discussions...

I want Cozens. Elite speed up the middle is too hard to pass. You can put him at wing to start as well. The Hawks top 6 needs a guy that has high end speed and skill.

Size speed and skill is the way the NHL is moving. Kane and Toews will start to slow down. Dcat is a solid skater but nothing special. Strome is an ok skater without much explosiveness.
- bhawks2241

Zegras elites hands

Cozens size and speed

Dach grit and determination to make his teammates better.

We have to be happy, b/c we are going to get aChristmas present we didn't expect not a tie...

Super TC. Maybe your best.

This could be the most interesting Summer that we have seen in years. Sure there have been interesting Summers in the past 10 years, but most of those were negatively interesting because we needed to dump salaries.

This year we have cap space, the #3 pick in the draft, prospects that may be ready for the NHL or will be ready after some seasoning in Rockford. We have some spare parts to trade. We have 7 picks this year and next year that could be part of trade packages. We have a few RFA's to sign, a few prospects to sign, and maybe we will sign a Euro FA (or 2).

We also have some definite needs. A top 4 defender, a top 6 winger, a 3C (especially if AA is moved, which I am neutral on), a 4th line winger, a backup goalie (I am not convinced Delia will be the backup, in fact I would rather have Forsberg or maybe even Nalimov).

I understand the caveats in your listing of players. You list 18 player and 2 "X's". I would guess that 4 or more of those 18 will not be on the opening night roster (and that could be a good thing).

So no to a one year deal for Koekkoek while they figure out which prospects are going to make it at D? I wasn't crazy about what I saw, but wondered if he needed more time in this system before they would cut bait for good.

Do they get Strome and Debrincat locked up this summer? Is Gus going to get extended, or will he be trade bait until the end?
- 333inthe3rd

Tyler had never told us exactly why he would let Koekkoek go. Or i misd4d that explanation

I see a greater possibility to become closer to a steady depth or bottom pair than Tyler does based on the favt that he was drafted #12 and augmented by some dolod stretches of play last season. The willingness to deliver a check and mobile enough intrigued me; i wonder if he was given a regular job and a shot of confidance for 29 gp .....could he develop into a more useful all around dman than Forsling.

Now i am not going to provide a comparison among Koekkoek, Forsling, and Dahlstrom. I would like to retain each while a couple prodpects get in a half seadon at Rockford. Then you determine if you see enough progression

Perhaps only Dahlstrom survives fir an entite season. But Tyler is it just your opinion that Koekkoek is not up to par?

Blackhawks #3 pick in draft should be on team this coming season too, right???

Still really have a good feeling about Kurashev and maybe down the road he and MacKenzie Entwistle will form part of a solid 3rd line.

Beaudin is one guy I'm rooting for based on what I've heard/seen and will be watching his progress closely.

What is the latest with Evan Barratt? I think he is one that had top 6 potential but still unsigned right?

Well maybe Stan insisted on one prospect that had NHL promise to include Hino and Osterle with Hossa.
- LAHawk

I think Stan did. He mentioned that the Hawks planned to draft Entwistle but Ariizona picked (69th) him with the selection right before the Hawks pick (70th - Andrei Altybarmakyan).

Blackhawks #3 pick in draft should be on team this coming season too, right???
- BlackhawkMike

Not necessarily. That would be the best case option, but I think the goal would be to be on the team by the 20/21 season.

Kind of reminds me of Bolland.
- LAHawk

And 4" taller and will be about 20lbs heavier.

Well maybe Stan insisted on one prospect that had NHL promise to include Hino and Osterle with Hossa.
- LAHawk

This... you have to give to get.

Just because Entwistle was traded by an analytical GM (who's never made the playoffs since being named GM in 2016) doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong with him.

Stan needed something of substance if he was moving a few active roster players.

Not necessarily. That would be the best case option, but I think the goal would be to be on the team by the 20/21 season.
- DarthKane

Thanks, better get your Rockford Ice Hog tickets gents.

Blackhawks #3 pick in draft should be on team this coming season too, right???
- BlackhawkMike

Depends who it is and what kind of summer they have.

If the Hawks draft a guy like Cozen's and he bulks up over the summer and has an amazing training camp, then sure.

I'm not banking on it though.

My guess is whomever the Hawks take at #3 is playing for them 2020-21 at the earliest.

If, and a big IF, the Hawks were to get Panarin again, they should pair toews/sadd together, kane/panarin together, and strome/debrincat together. fill in those lines with players who will compliment them. Have 3 good lines who can score and spread out the wealth. I don't like going nuclear with Kane/Panarin/Toews. Again, that is saying if they were to get Panarin again, which I do not think that they will.
- frafra

Even if the Hawks could find another strong offensive forward to play with Kane (i.e. not necessarily Panarin given how unrealistic he is financially), I would also prefer creating 3 duos and build out from them to form 3 strong lines to go along with a shutdown 4th line. Just as an example:

Saad - Toews - RW
LW - Anisimov - Kane
DeBrincat - Strome - RW
Caggiula - Kampf - RW

Internal options: Sikura, Kahun, Perlini, Hayden, possibly Kubalik if he finally signs

External options: lots of names thrown around these boards

Although I don't mind Anisimov since he does contribute, he isn't a fixture either. I would replace him only if the player coming in is a substantive upgrade. Pretend that Panarin does come back, though, then line him up with Kane and Anisimov.

Still really have a good feeling about Kurashev and maybe down the road he and MacKenzie Entwistle will form part of a solid 3rd line.

Beaudin is one guy I'm rooting for based on what I've heard/seen and will be watching his progress closely.

What is the latest with Evan Barratt? I think he is one that had top 6 potential but still unsigned right?
- breadbag

going back to Penn State next year, has an injury that will take 2-3 months to heal.

Not necessarily. That would be the best case option, but I think the goal would be to be on the team by the 20/21 season.
- DarthKane

Beat me to it DK!

Never said the Hawks needed Panarin. I was just making a comment on somebody else's post based off if the Hawks were to land him. I do not think they will get him either.
I think it would be irresponsible for Bowman to pay Strome a hefty contract right away. Let's see how he does this year and if he can repeat last season. I think ADB will get paid, but what is he worth? I am hoping the Hawks can sign him to some type of bridge deal.
- frafra

Given that Strome has publicly stated he wants to be a Blackhawk for his entire career, one would think he would be open to a bridge deal then get his big pay day afterward. Let's hope that is the case.

Given that Strome has publicly stated he wants to be a Blackhawk for his entire career, one would think he would be open to a bridge deal then get his big pay day afterward. Let's hope that is the case.
- AEL_Fox

Hope Strome really is staying in Chicago to work out with ADB this year.