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Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

May 8 @ 10:37 PM ET
It’s how I’m breaking it down, Andersson for Puljujarvi, the 8th for the 19th Nam and Vesey
- nyrangers9479

It makes no sense for Edmonton. For $7.17M in cap space they could probably sign two average NHL players and keep Puljujarvi and the 8th overall pick
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

May 8 @ 10:39 PM ET
It makes no sense for Edmonton. For $7.17M in cap space they could probably sign two average NHL players and keep Puljujarvi and the 8th overall pick
- Harambe


Kreider + 19 could get us 8
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

May 8 @ 11:21 PM ET
Kreider + 19 could get us 8
- picklerick

Does that really make them better? Move up 11 spots and lose one of your best players? I don’t like it.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

May 8 @ 11:27 PM ET
Does that really make them better? Move up 11 spots and lose one of your best players? I don’t like it.
- Bean_Dip


Maybe. Maybe not. Was just giving an example of a realistic trade that would get us EDMs pick.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 8 @ 11:44 PM ET
Maybe. Maybe not. Was just giving an example of a realistic trade that would get us EDMs pick.
- picklerick

From a Rangers stand point I would never do it. It’s essentially Seider and Kreider for Boldy (just an example of players in that range. To me, not worth it.

What about FLA as a trade partner? Georgie+ 20th for 13th?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 8 @ 11:52 PM ET
Everyone that’s close to the oilers (writers, broadcasters, etc) all say they need bottom 6 players...we got a whole bunch of those! They neeeeeed to get this 8 pick from them!

If you think about it, there is so much pressure to make the playoffs up there that they should be willing to trade that pick instead of waiting for 3 years for someone to step in. And they really have nothing of value to trade other then that pick

- Slimtj100

They need guys that can play with McDavid and Draisatl. They’re a 1 line team. I could absolutely see them trading picks and some younger guys for vets/NHL ready guys.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 9 @ 1:23 AM ET
I think we should do whatever it takes to get into the top 10 with that 2nd pick and grab Podkolzin if he drops. Andersson and 20 get us to BUF at 7?

Kakko Kravtsov Podkolzin for the next 10 years on the wing would be fun to watch.

2 years from now we could have a top 6 that looks like this:

Panarin Zib Kravtsov
Kakko Chytil Podkolzin
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 9 @ 5:22 AM ET
too bad for Colorado, but they have hell of a future and pick 4th and 16th overall

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 9 @ 5:34 AM ET
From a Rangers stand point I would never do it. It’s essentially Seider and Kreider for Boldy (just an example of players in that range. To me, not worth it.

What about FLA as a trade partner? Georgie+ 20th for 13th?

- nyrangers9479




Georgie has more value than that

should talk to Detroit about what it would take to get 6th pick, he makes sense for them

Georgie could easily be their number 1 next year, they still have some cap concerns and he makes 792K next season
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 9 @ 5:43 AM ET
I think we should do whatever it takes to get into the top 10 with that 2nd pick and grab Podkolzin if he drops. Andersson and 20 get us to BUF at 7?

Kakko Kravtsov Podkolzin for the next 10 years on the wing would be fun to watch.

2 years from now we could have a top 6 that looks like this:

Panarin Zib Kravtsov
Kakko Chytil Podkolzin

- nyrangers9479


I really have no idea who the Rangers would target if they traded up

it's a debate I see on twitter

I see people in love with Zegras, in love with Caufield, Byram, Cozens

I'd be happy with any of them, the only guys I really dont want are the European defensemen (like Broberg, Soderstrom, Seider)

I'll live if they stay at 20 and grab one of those guys, but please dont trade up for one
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

May 9 @ 8:21 AM ET


Georgie has more value than that

should talk to Detroit about what it would take to get 6th pick, he makes sense for them

Georgie could easily be their number 1 next year, they still have some cap concerns and he makes 792K next season

- jimbro83

Think Stevie Y has had enough of trading with the NYR.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 9 @ 8:23 AM ET
Think Stevie Y has had enough of trading with the NYR.
- Fenrir



Why? He kills it every time.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

May 9 @ 8:25 AM ET
Why? He kills it every time.
- JRR1285

I suppose it is his fault he signed Miller and Cally to those contracts. You're right, trade-wise he's done well.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

May 9 @ 8:32 AM ET
I really have no idea who the Rangers would target if they traded up

it's a debate I see on twitter

I see people in love with Zegras, in love with Caufield, Byram, Cozens

I'd be happy with any of them, the only guys I really dont want are the European defensemen (like Broberg, Soderstrom, Seider)

I'll live if they stay at 20 and grab one of those guys, but please dont trade up for one

- jimbro83


I'm kind of with you. The only guy I would trade up for is Caulfield and I think there is no way he goes past like 8 or 9 now. There is literally no shot we can trade up that high with not having the Dallas 1st.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

May 9 @ 8:34 AM ET


Georgie has more value than that

should talk to Detroit about what it would take to get 6th pick, he makes sense for them

Georgie could easily be their number 1 next year, they still have some cap concerns and he makes 792K next season

- jimbro83



I can't say Georgie has a ton of value. I could be wrong, but I always use Talbot as kind of a gauge of what his trade value would be. Even if we give Talbot the value of when we first refused the 1st (and subsequently got screwed when we did trade him), Cam had better numbers here than Georgie. I just don't see Georgie fetching this king's ransom.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

May 9 @ 8:38 AM ET
farms are just so random. If you have the will to do it, you can be very successful. My dad knew a guy who was as dumb as rocks, and that may be an insult to rocks. However, the guy was a millionaire because he worked hard on his farms and had the right hustles (for instance he'd spray the whole town's fields, yes he owned a plane too).

Even if I could do the work, the just random stuff like natural disasters (drought included), bugs, and any other annoyances would just drive me up a wall

- 2sticks1puck


this is the plot from Independence Day

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 9 @ 8:42 AM ET
this is the plot from Independence Day


- mrn22



jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 9 @ 8:43 AM ET
I can't say Georgie has a ton of value. I could be wrong, but I always use Talbot as kind of a gauge of what his trade value would be. Even if we give Talbot the value of when we first refused the 1st (and subsequently got screwed when we did trade him), Cam had better numbers here than Georgie. I just don't see Georgie fetching this king's ransom.
- 2sticks1puck


Georgie's career is just beginning though and Talbot was approaching UFA when that trade happened, and he really wasn't that young either

I think the fact that Georgie could legit be somebody's #1 next season and he's only got a 792k cap hit is very valuable commodity
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 9 @ 8:51 AM ET

CapFriendly
@CapFriendly

Detroit #RedWings have resigned Dylan McIlrath to a 2 year / 2-way contract extension. Both seasons breakdown the same way.

NHL: $700,000
Minor: $275,000
Guaranteed: $325,000
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 9 @ 8:54 AM ET
CapFriendly
@CapFriendly

Detroit #RedWings have resigned Dylan McIlrath to a 2 year / 2-way contract extension. Both seasons breakdown the same way.

NHL: $700,000
Minor: $275,000
Guaranteed: $325,000

- jimbro83



At least he's still playing somewhere. I really wanted him to figure it out at the NHL level.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 9 @ 8:56 AM ET
Georgie's career is just beginning though and Talbot was approaching UFA when that trade happened, and he really wasn't that young either

I think the fact that Georgie could legit be somebody's #1 next season and he's only got a 792k cap hit is very valuable commodity

- jimbro83


2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

May 9 @ 8:59 AM ET
Georgie's career is just beginning though and Talbot was approaching UFA when that trade happened, and he really wasn't that young either

I think the fact that Georgie could legit be somebody's #1 next season and he's only got a 792k cap hit is very valuable commodity

- jimbro83


I'm being absolutely honest: when's the last time a goalie got a haul? Even Patrick didn't get an epic return. Dwayne Roloson was considered almost an elite goalie at the time (although he was older) only got a 1st and a conditional 3rd. I'm not saying Georgie has no trade value, but to say that people will pay this gigantic ransom for him is just wishful thinking. Especially considering the underlying metrics have suggested that it's possible Hank was better (yes I don't really believe that).
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 9 @ 9:02 AM ET
I'm being absolutely honest: when's the last time a goalie got a haul? Even Patrick didn't get an epic return. Dwayne Roloson was considered almost an elite goalie at the time (although he was older) only got a 1st and a conditional 3rd. I'm not saying Georgie has no trade value, but to say that people will pay this gigantic ransom for him is just wishful thinking. Especially considering the underlying metrics have suggested that it's possible Hank was better (yes I don't really believe that).
- 2sticks1puck


Do I think he would get a haul, no, but I would say he is definitely at the minimum worth a 1st +. He's 23, cost controlled and was really good in front of one of the worst defenses
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 9 @ 9:03 AM ET
I'm being absolutely honest: when's the last time a goalie got a haul? Even Patrick didn't get an epic return. Dwayne Roloson was considered almost an elite goalie at the time (although he was older) only got a 1st and a conditional 3rd. I'm not saying Georgie has no trade value, but to say that people will pay this gigantic ransom for him is just wishful thinking. Especially considering the underlying metrics have suggested that it's possible Hank was better (yes I don't really believe that).
- 2sticks1puck


yeah, I actually tend to agree overall that goalies don't have the best trade value

what they ultimately do here with Lundqvist, Shesty and Georgiev is one of most fascinating decisions to be made this off season

my personal preference is if Lundqvist could ride off in the sunset and Shesty/Georgiev becomes the Russian version of Beezer/Richter circa 1991-92

Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

May 9 @ 9:07 AM ET
Do I think he would get a haul, no, but I would say he is definitely at the minimum worth a 1st +. He's 23, cost controlled and was really good in front of one of the worst defenses
- mdw7413


Now I understand why we couldn't win!!
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