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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 9 @ 9:31 PM ET
Go Jerks!!!
- TheMessiah94

TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

May 9 @ 9:54 PM ET

- mdw7413

Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

May 9 @ 9:57 PM ET

- mdw7413


I was born a poor black child.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

May 9 @ 9:58 PM ET
Go Jerks!!!
- TheMessiah94

You're probably going to get that sweater by the beginning of next season.
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

May 9 @ 10:06 PM ET
You're probably going to get that sweater by the beginning of next season.
- Fenrir

Haha, who knows? I got the tracking # for it already. The ones I got last year from them came within 2 weeks. I'll post a photo when it comes.
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

May 9 @ 10:19 PM ET
Haha, who knows? I got the tracking # for it already. The ones I got last year from them came within 2 weeks. I'll post a photo when it comes.
- TheMessiah94


Whewnever I have ordered from DHgate it's always been 2 weeks
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

May 9 @ 10:19 PM ET
Wow, refs must be getting paid by the Bruins in this game too. What was the difference between this hit and the one on Svechnikov? Total BS
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

May 9 @ 10:44 PM ET
God I hate the Bruins. I really can't wait until Chara is finished, and hopefully somebody turns Marchand into a vegetable. Enough of them.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 9 @ 11:02 PM ET
Doesn't read that way to me his AAS was 3.5 Saad was 6 so yeah maybe not

Panarin, who was undrafted, signed a two-year, $7 million contract with Chicago on April 29, 2015, according to CapFriendly.com.

Saad has four years left on his contract, which carries a $6 million charge.

- blueshirts_fan

"The trades also bring some cost certainty against the NHL salary cap.

Murphy has five years left on his contract, which carries a $3.85 million salary-cap charge, according to CapFriendly.com, and Saad has four years left on his contract, which carries a $6 million charge.

Forsberg, 24, can become a restricted free agent July 1, and Dauphin, 22, has one year left on his entry-level contract, which has a cap charge of $745,000.

Hjalmarsson has two years left on his contract, with a $4.1 million cap charge. Panarin, who was undrafted, signed a two-year, $7 million contract with Chicago on April 29, 2015, according to CapFriendly.com. On Dec. 28, he signed a two-year, $12 million contract that runs through the 2018-19 season."

Yikes
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 10 @ 12:33 AM ET
Interesting read:

https://www.nhl.com/news/...-in-offseason/c-307312300


- Tonybere

That 1st is huge next year.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 10 @ 1:10 AM ET
Rumors going around Subban could be traded and they want a top 6 winger in return. Kreider and Pionk for Subban?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 10 @ 5:53 AM ET
Rumors going around Subban could be traded and they want a top 6 winger in return. Kreider and Pionk for Subban?
- nyrangers9479


Id be shocked if Rangers targeted Subban

I think it's good chance he'll be traded though
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

May 10 @ 8:05 AM ET
Id be shocked if Rangers targeted Subban

I think it's good chance he'll be traded though

- jimbro83


I don't think we will target him either, but I'd love to have him. Subban is >>>>>>> Trouba.

We'd have to give up Nils or possibly Miller in any trade. I just don't see us doing that.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 10 @ 8:21 AM ET
I don't think we will target him either, but I'd love to have him. Subban is >>>>>>> Trouba.

We'd have to give up Nils or possibly Miller in any trade. I just don't see us doing that.

- 2sticks1puck



There is no reason to pursue Subban with Karlsson available for nothing.

For people complaining about Karlsson's durability (not targeting you or anyone in particular) I wanted to compare the two:



Karlsson has played more games in the last 4 seasons (4 more) and has 81 more points. Subban carries a cap hit of 9mil. I for one am not going to be pleased if they send anything for Subban given his cap in relation to his production and his durability. He is also almost exactly a year older.

The two aren't even comparable.

nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 10 @ 8:35 AM ET
Id be shocked if Rangers targeted Subban

I think it's good chance he'll be traded though

- jimbro83


I think we trade Kreider and pick to Avs for their top pick.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 10 @ 8:40 AM ET
I think we trade Kreider and pick to Avs for their top pick.
- nyrangers2


4th overall?

I really doubt it, that's a monster draft pick in this draft

they could grab a potentially elite young player to grow with their young core of Rantanen, McKinnon, Landeskog, Makar, etc
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

May 10 @ 8:44 AM ET
There is no reason to pursue Subban with Karlsson available for nothing.

For people complaining about Karlsson's durability (not targeting you or anyone in particular) I wanted to compare the two:



Karlsson has played more games in the last 4 seasons (4 more) and has 81 more points. Subban carries a cap hit of 9mil. I for one am not going to be pleased if they send anything for Subban given his cap in relation to his production and his durability. He is also almost exactly a year older.

The two aren't even comparable.

- JRR1285

Playing devils advocate just to keep the conversation going (I want no part of Subban and would MUCH rather have Karlsson. I’m actually coming around to Karlsson).

What if Nashville was willing to retain salary to bring the cap hit down to 7 million? Is Kreider and a d-prospect worth it then?
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 10 @ 8:44 AM ET
4th overall?

I really doubt it, that's a monster draft pick in this draft

they could grab a potentially elite young player to grow with their young core of Rantanen, McKinnon, Landeskog, Makar, etc

- jimbro83


Probably what happens but if they are in win now mode they might take that risk if they think Kreider is the vet that pushes them up top. Again probably wishful thinking but the closer the draft the more I think kreider is traded
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 10 @ 8:45 AM ET
Playing devils advocate just to keep the conversation going (I want no part of Subban and would MUCH rather have Karlsson. I’m actually coming around to Karlsson).

What if Nashville was willing to retain salary to bring the cap hit down to 7 million? Is Kreider and a d-prospect worth it then?

- Bean_Dip


I feel like Nashville is going to have a lot of suitors for Subban

I also think we need to be a little realistic about the trade value of Kreider
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 10 @ 8:48 AM ET
Playing devils advocate just to keep the conversation going (I want no part of Subban and would MUCH rather have Karlsson. I’m actually coming around to Karlsson).

What if Nashville was willing to retain salary to bring the cap hit down to 7 million? Is Kreider and a d-prospect worth it then?

- Bean_Dip



I feel the same. Just trying to keep some interesting discussion going.

I still think that is pushing it. I like Kreider A LOT. If they had too many scoring forwards (LMAO) and needed D help to content for the cup I would do it. But to trade for Subban for 3 more years at 9mil seems wasteful at this stage.

I believe that Karlsson would still be effective and possibly dominant on the offensive side by the time they are contending again. I'm not sure I see Subban doing the same.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 10 @ 8:49 AM ET
I feel like Nashville is going to have a lot of suitors for Subban

I also think we need to be a little realistic about the trade value of Kreider

- jimbro83



I think this is definitely worth considering too. I failed to mention that we probably (definitely) over value Kreider. He is worth more to the Rangers than he is to other organizations. Subban's perceived worth is worlds apart from Kreider.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 10 @ 8:50 AM ET
I feel the same. Just trying to keep some interesting discussion going.

I still think that is pushing it. I like Kreider A LOT. If they had too many scoring forwards (LMAO) and needed D help to content for the cup I would do it. But to trade for Subban for 3 more years at 7mil seems wasteful at this stage.

I believe that Karlsson would still be effective and possibly dominant on the offensive side by the time they are contending again. I'm not sure I see Subban doing the same.

- JRR1285


you know what would be perfect? Karlsson at Subban's remaining contract, 3 years 9 mil a year

best of both worlds

I just don't want Karlsson for 7 years at 11 mil a year
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 10 @ 8:51 AM ET
you know what would be perfect? Karlsson at Subban's remaining contract, 3 years 9 mil a year

best of both worlds

I just don't want Karlsson for 7 years at 11 mil a year

- jimbro83



I agree but if it happens I am going to go streaking. Talk me off the ledge in 5 years.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 10 @ 8:52 AM ET
I think this is definitely worth considering too. I failed to mention that we probably (definitely) over value Kreider. He is worth more to the Rangers than he is to other organizations. Subban's perceived worth is worlds apart from Kreider.
- JRR1285


the team that would potentially acquire Kreider can't talk contract extension with him until July 1st and Kreider has an 11 team NTC

I don't know, I am very skeptical about Kreider's trade value when you consider all the factors, I predict he stays
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 10 @ 8:54 AM ET
the team that would potentially acquire Kreider can't talk contract extension with him until July 1st and Kreider has an 11 team NTC

I don't know, I am very skeptical about Kreider's trade value when you consider all the factors, I predict he stays

- jimbro83



I hope he stays. #mycaptain
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