I hope he stays. #mycaptain Fast
- JRR1285

you know what would be perfect? Karlsson at Subban's remaining contract, 3 years 9 mil a year

best of both worlds

I just don't want Karlsson for 7 years at 11 mil a year
- jimbro83

I think we all agree that everyone should be all in on Karlsson if that is what he demands are. At a 3 yr contact, I'd pay him 15 million. I just don't want those last couple seasons.

I think keeping Kreider is part of fallback plan if we don't get Panarin. If Panarin signs, Kreider goes...

- mdw7413

I mean sure, if you want a low skilled captain like Callahan. Fast is totally fine with an A. He's not at the level for the C.

I think we all agree that everyone should be all in on Karlsson if that is what he demands are. At a 3 yr contact, I'd pay him 15 million. I just don't want those last couple seasons.
- 2sticks1puck

I feel like if they are willing to pay Karlsson 9mil (He won't take it) that it is splitting hairs not to go to 10-11. If Subban is worth 9mil at his production then Karlsson is worth the extra bit.

I mean sure, if you want a low skilled captain like Callahan. Fast is totally fine with an A. He's not at the level for the C.
- JRR1285

I don't even think its skill. He is very quiet on the ice. I think I saw him yell at a ref once and it was this past year

I feel like if they are willing to pay Karlsson 9mil (He won't take it) that it is splitting hairs not to go to 10-11. If Subban is worth 9mil at his production then Karlsson is worth the extra bit.
- JRR1285

the money per year is not really my issue, it's the length of contract

he's gonna require a NMC, which means they'll have to protect him in expansion draft

there's a lot of things I am weary of signing Karlsson to long term big bucks

you know what would be perfect? Karlsson at Subban's remaining contract, 3 years 9 mil a year

best of both worlds

I just don't want Karlsson for 7 years at 11 mil a year
- jimbro83

He's going to get it. I can see Gorton going after him if we don't land Panarin.

He's going to get it. I can see Gorton going after him if we don't land Panarin.
- Fenrir

I think both Panarin and Karlsson are going to be signed pretty quickly July 1st

I feel like if they are willing to pay Karlsson 9mil (He won't take it) that it is splitting hairs not to go to 10-11. If Subban is worth 9mil at his production then Karlsson is worth the extra bit.
- JRR1285

It's just the term that scares me. Durability isn't 100% about games played, it's also how effective you can be while doing it. While Erik is a much better player than those two combined, we've seen Staal and G become shells of themselves seemingly overnight because they are just hobbled 24/7. By games played, both are still really durable but it doesn't really mean anything. Even a guy like McD has clearly lost a step he will never get back. You just can't keep getting banged up and bounce back to 100%. Erik's teammate Burns is still a Norris level player at his age because his injury history is reasonably clean.

I know you brag about how he is playing on one leg, but that's going to haunt him the rest of his career.

I don't even think its skill. He is very quiet on the ice. I think I saw him yell at a ref once and it was this past year
- mdw7413

Yep, Brian Leetch 2.0. Don't see it happening.
Unfortunately we traded our next captain.

I think both Panarin and Karlsson are going to be signed pretty quickly July 1st
- jimbro83

The NHL doesn't get enough credit for instituting the negotiation window. People want to see big-name guys sign quickly and not have to wait around for a week and that does a good job of facilitating that.

It's just the term that scares me. Durability isn't 100% about games played, it's also how effective you can be while doing it. While Erik is a much better player than those two combined, we've seen Staal and G become shells of themselves seemingly overnight because they are just hobbled 24/7. By games played, both are still really durable but it doesn't really mean anything. Even a guy like McD has clearly lost a step he will never get back. You just can't keep getting banged up and bounce back to 100%. Erik's teammate Burns is still a Norris level player at his age because his injury history is reasonably clean.

I know you brag about how he is playing on one leg, but that's going to haunt him the rest of his career.
- 2sticks1puck

Exactly. Term and history.

I think both Panarin and Karlsson are going to be signed pretty quickly July 1st
- jimbro83

Going to be fun to watch.

What did this lady think would happen?

https://thetakeout.com/wo...abit-pacemaker-1834644229

Yep, Brian Leetch 2.0. Don't see it happening.
Unfortunately we traded our next captain.
- Fenrir

Hayes might come back

It's just the term that scares me. Durability isn't 100% about games played, it's also how effective you can be while doing it. While Erik is a much better player than those two combined, we've seen Staal and G become shells of themselves seemingly overnight because they are just hobbled 24/7. By games played, both are still really durable but it doesn't really mean anything. Even a guy like McD has clearly lost a step he will never get back. You just can't keep getting banged up and bounce back to 100%. Erik's teammate Burns is still a Norris level player at his age because his injury history is reasonably clean.

I know you brag about how he is playing on one leg, but that's going to haunt him the rest of his career.
- 2sticks1puck

That's TJ

But I get what you are saying. Burns is a bit of an anomaly. Given his age you have to imagine him dropping off too at some point. He is a smaller Chara. It might even appear to happen over night.

Yep, Brian Leetch 2.0. Don't see it happening.
Unfortunately we traded our next captain.
- Fenrir

We've traded away a bunch of captains. Does that mean Staal is the next? Gotta keep the streak going

What did this lady think would happen?

https://thetakeout.com/wo...abit-pacemaker-1834644229
- 2sticks1puck

I couldn't get to the article but the title says it all.

What did this lady think would happen?

https://thetakeout.com/wo...abit-pacemaker-1834644229
- 2sticks1puck

I'm just wondering when a curved erection became so devastating it has to be every other commercial on tv

Going to be fun to watch them pull over those Rangers sweaters.
- Fenrir

Fixed

whenever we discuss potentially bringing in Karlsson, people need to stop showing his career stats.

We all know he's had a hall of fame career already

the point is though, those of us that are scared of signing him long term are worried that he'll maintain that level throughout his 30's

I dont need to be reminded he's won two Norris trophies in his 20's

I'm just wondering when a curved erection became so devastating it has to be every other commercial on tv
- mdw7413

whenever we discuss potentially bringing in Karlsson, people need to stop showing his career stats.

We all know he's had a hall of fame career already

the point is though, those of us that are scared of signing him long term are worried that he'll maintain that level throughout his 30's

I dont need to be reminded he's won two Norris trophies in his 20's
- jimbro83

Fair enough.

I still think he is getting Norris votes until he's about 34-35.

That's TJ

But I get what you are saying. Burns is a bit of an anomaly. Given his age you have to imagine him dropping off too at some point. He is a smaller Chara. It might even appear to happen over night.
- JRR1285

Unless he gets banged up, I see Burns being like a Gonchar who was good until he wasn't so to speak. Heck, even Boyle was only really mediocre for us because we got him in the twilight of his twilight. Guys like that can just sit back on the point and fire away seemingly until they are 60. Now what happens 5 on 5 will be another story.