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FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

May 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
So say the NHL does decide to get rid of reviewing off sides calls and next year a game 7 goal is scored with a guy 3 feet off sides..now what? Its not perfect but at least the right call is being made.
- waitforawhistle


I guess we'll have to do what fans and players did for, I don't know, 70+ years before...understand that sometimes calls are missed. Hell, they're missed WITH replay, but stopping the game, analyzing frame by frame looking for the most minute thing...ridiculous. It's ruining sports.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

May 9 @ 3:14 PM ET
yep

I'd even like the redline back

- Fountain-San

Not me. Happy right where lines are now.
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

May 9 @ 3:15 PM ET
I guess we'll have to do what fans and players did for, I don't know, 70+ years before...understand that sometimes calls are missed. Hell, they're missed WITH replay, but stopping the game, analyzing frame by frame looking for the most minute thing...ridiculous. It's ruining sports.
- FoxMulder

60 second cap on reviews. If the video is so ambiguous that you can't figure out what the proper call is in one minute or less, it stands as called

Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

May 9 @ 3:16 PM ET
Not me. Happy right where lines are now.
- RafiDRW

On a mirror under my nose?
WhaleCanes
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 04.28.2019

May 9 @ 3:17 PM ET
Good challenge by San Jose. Nothing wrong with the rule.
eNDSo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2016

May 9 @ 3:18 PM ET
I'm stunned that I agree with the final point. Also agree with breaking the plane instead of physically touching the blue line.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

May 9 @ 3:24 PM ET
60 second cap on reviews. If the video is so ambiguous that you can't figure out what the proper call is in one minute or less, it stands as called


- Harambe


That's not a bad idea. But than the officials will feel rushed and likely end up making a poopty decision.

They just need to get rid of the offside challenge altogether..
Izzo
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 12.20.2018

May 9 @ 3:28 PM ET
Any decision on how to handle this will be frustrating. People are only complaining about the offsides challenge because it's what currently is in front of us. Would it really be better if offsides was changed from the player being over the blue line to whether the ref catches it or not? There would be just as much complaining about plays that are clearly offsides on replay that resulted in a counted goal.

Also, there most definitely is a camera view where you can see Landeskog is offsides. I've seen one where you can clearly see white between his skate and the line.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

May 9 @ 3:28 PM ET
On a mirror under my nose?
- Harambe

Don’t judge.
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

May 9 @ 3:32 PM ET
That's not a bad idea. But than the officials will feel rushed and likely end up making a poopty decision.

They just need to get rid of the offside challenge altogether..

- LeafGuy89

That's good, maybe then they'll stop being lazy and letting plays go that they're unsure of whether it was offsides or not because 'hey, if we're wrong we'll get it right on the review'.

NHL referees are an embarrassment and literally changing the way the rules are enforced for the playoffs is pathetic.
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

May 9 @ 3:37 PM ET
60 second cap on reviews. If the video is so ambiguous that you can't figure out what the proper call is in one minute or less, it stands as called


- Harambe


I was going to say 30 seconds. But I still prefer no replay at all. As I tell my kids, "You get what you get and you don't throw a fit."
Sedinery
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 12.16.2015

May 9 @ 3:38 PM ET
Make offside like Ball Hockey, have a floating blue line. Once your team establishes entry into the offensive zone and controls the puck, as long as the offensive team keeps control the blueline would then be the center line allowing a lot more freedom to move around the oppositions end of the ice. This idea would also be super beneficial for 3 v 3 overtime, no more leaving the "zone" to re-establish onside, you could circle all the way out to the red line and not worry
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 9 @ 3:38 PM ET
The uninvolved player rule is an interesting one, so if a forward is caught deep in the offensive zone (say, behind the net), and the puck exits the zone, then quickly re-enters it, resulting in a goal that the deep player did not have a hand in should be a goal? I don't know about that...

How about there is no ability for the coaching staff to review the play prior to challenging the play (AKA: You have the same chance to call offside that the linesman did.)

OR

Since most offside challenges come off the rush (unlike last night), once the puck TOUCHES (not crosses) the blue line, it is considered "in" the zone.

OR

Two blue lines, one further back where the puck has to enter and one closer to the net that the players have to clear in order to be considered "on-side". This would be similar to the "Floating Blue Line" rule in ball hockey.

There's lots of ways to change it, or we can accept the rules, and tighten up the explanations, etc. so fans can deal with why their team came out on the losing end of a challenge... EG: "On the play, the player going to the bench did not make contact with the blue line, therefore, the player was offside. No Goal." Then supply the definitive replay used to make that call...

It's also worth noting that in game 5 of Leafs vs. Bruins, the Bruins goal was offside by about a foot, and video replay completely missed it.

- Cimo


Good point about the non-involved player.

As for the other solutions they are just moving the review to a different location, it doesn't really remove the problem, just shuffles it to a different spot.

I like the idea of a full speed review, no slow-mo. If you can't see it at full speed its close enough.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 9 @ 3:41 PM ET
Hockey fans need to quit their incessant whining.

It was offside.

They reviewed, Determined it was offside. The right call was made.

If the goal had been allowed to stand, there would have been just as much incessant whining.

So just STFU and watch the game. I don't care about your fee-fees.

The correct call was made.

Period.

- Atomic Wedgie
lol


Hatt trick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.09.2019

May 9 @ 3:43 PM ET
I think that there should be no offside until the puck gets into the Ozone. Once there’s possession in the ozone then call offside. My son has been playing 3 on 3 in the summer for years and that’s how they do it.
Team_Teal
San Jose Sharks
Location: Benicia, CA
Joined: 04.15.2011

May 9 @ 3:43 PM ET
Hockey fans need to quit their incessant whining.

It was offside.

They reviewed, Determined it was offside. The right call was made.

If the goal had been allowed to stand, there would have been just as much incessant whining.

So just STFU and watch the game. I don't care about your fee-fees.

The correct call was made.

Period.

- Atomic Wedgie


This guy gets it.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 9 @ 3:50 PM ET
the league should not look at soccer for a damn thing.
- Codes1087

^^^^^^100% this.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

May 9 @ 3:51 PM ET
This guy gets it.
- Team_Teal

Says the Sharks fan.
Komisaurus Rex
Ottawa Senators
Location: If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism - 1975, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

May 9 @ 3:53 PM ET
Speak for yourself, if your team lost by a blatant offside goal in double OT pretty sure your tone on reviews would be different
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

May 9 @ 3:56 PM ET
Penalty for losing a challenge review is death, not a power play. Problem solved. Plus, the fans get executions in between periods. It's a win-win.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 9 @ 3:57 PM ET
Any decision on how to handle this will be frustrating. People are only complaining about the offsides challenge because it's what currently is in front of us. Would it really be better if offsides was changed from the player being over the blue line to whether the ref catches it or not? There would be just as much complaining about plays that are clearly offsides on replay that resulted in a counted goal.

Also, there most definitely is a camera view where you can see Landeskog is offsides. I've seen one where you can clearly see white between his skate and the line.

- Izzo


you can see the white at the heel of his skate, his toe may still be on the line.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 9 @ 4:04 PM ET
completely get rid of offsides review, human error is fine on these plays

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 9 @ 4:17 PM ET
It was offside. Refs got it right. He didnt tag up. He went to the bench, never passed the blue and took his sweet a** time getting off. That was the right call
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I scream at my atom girls when they do this.

It shouldn't be that hard for NHL players to get off the franking ice.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
no offside? at all in hockey?

you think what would become of that is game we want to watch?

- Fountain-San

To be honest, I'd be interested in watching a test game, just to see what it would look like.

I'm confident I would hate it, but it does pique my interest.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 9 @ 4:21 PM ET
I'm stunned that I agree with the final point. Also agree with breaking the plane instead of physically touching the blue line.
- eNDSo

It would make the linesmen's jobs impossible, and lead to endless debates after each goal on if it was offside or not.

Touching the ice makes it easy - all you have to do is look if the skate is over the line or not.

FFS, there's nothing wrong with the existing rule.
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