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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 9 @ 12:09 PM ET
Richardson was supposedly high on tim murray's list...take if for what you will...eakins really does nothing for me...i'd hate stu barnes, plus he has no head coaching experience
- Michael Pachla


Yea. That is pretty much my thoughts too. Just trying to introduce more names.

Richardson did pretty well on Montreal's staff this year.


It's a weird name but Guy Boucher did have Ottawa in the ECF in 2017... talent was gutted from the team and then Dorian sucked the life from the city. His MO has been the same in TB and OTT... great first year making the playoffs... then a tailspin and fired in 3rd year. IDENTICAL.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 12:13 PM ET
Yea. That is pretty much my thoughts too. Just trying to introduce more names.

Richardson did pretty well on Montreal's staff this year.


It's a weird name but Guy Boucher did have Ottawa in the ECF in 2017... talent was gutted from the team and then Dorian sucked the life from the city. His MO has been the same in TB and OTT... great first year making the playoffs... then a tailspin and fired in 3rd year. IDENTICAL.

- JVince11

good points...but with that track record, he's being hired to get fired in two-and-a-half years
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 9 @ 12:14 PM ET
I think he adapts to his players more than you're giving him credit for. '05-'07, he let his horses run
- jcragcrumple


Perhaps... I still think his 2015 Dallas team was so much better than that STL team. Dang Seguin injury.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

May 9 @ 12:16 PM ET
ruff was a good coach...and he wasn't just a defensive coach either...in the very least he'll play to the team's strengths and he should garner enough respect from Eichel and the rest to at least get this team going in the right direction...i'm not starting the hire ruff parade, just saying that they could do worse
- Michael Pachla


And he knows the city, he is respected in the city, he has no negative connotations about living in Buffalo, he is a proven winner, he has experience working under the Pegula's. Am I missing anything?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 12:17 PM ET
And he knows the city, he is respected in the city, he has no negative connotations about living in Buffalo, he is a proven winner, he has experience working under the Pegula's. Am I missing anything?
- lulags

I do think the pegulas trust him
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

May 9 @ 12:20 PM ET
I do think the pegulas trust him
- Michael Pachla

That's an issue then, unless JBotts has the balls to tell them it's his decision and hes the best fit
FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ND
Joined: 01.25.2018

May 9 @ 12:22 PM ET
Don’t be “that guy” and cheer for the Boston Bruins, you’re family and loved ones will be ashamed of you and disown you for smelling your own farts. Join the light side. Fear the Pig

Go Canes go and what not
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

May 9 @ 12:23 PM ET
If I am a betting man.... i bet Keefe but we have to pay good money for it. Which we will be ridiculed for.

-JVince11


We can hire Keefe, but we have to trade for Marleau, Zaitsev and Horton.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 9 @ 12:23 PM ET
I do think the pegulas trust him
- Michael Pachla


It would be an interesting dynamic for Botterill to hire his future boss, if they went through with a succession plan concept
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 9 @ 12:24 PM ET
Don’t be “that guy” and cheer for the Boston Bruins, you’re family and loved ones will be ashamed of you and disown you for smelling your own farts. Join the light side. Fear the Pig

Go Canes go and what not

- FinnGod



This board hates the Huricanes because they were lucky the entire Sabres blue line got hurt in 2006.

That is why you'll be hard pressed to find a Sabre fan rooting for them.

It's San Jose all the way
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

May 9 @ 12:27 PM ET
It would be an interesting dynamic for Botterill to hire his future boss, if they went through with a succession plan concept
- jcragcrumple

I think he will be a great GM, DOHO in the future somewhere
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 9 @ 12:29 PM ET
This board hates the Huricanes because they were lucky the entire Sabres blue line got hurt in 2006.

That is why you'll be hard pressed to find a Sabre fan rooting for them.

It's San Jose all the way

- Stripes77



Not that I want this to happen, but this is Boston's Cup to lose.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 9 @ 12:35 PM ET
It would be an interesting dynamic for Botterill to hire his future boss, if they went through with a succession plan concept
- jcragcrumple


We've been criticizing the Pegula's for years for making naive and sentimental hires. This would take the cake.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 9 @ 12:39 PM ET
Not that I want this to happen, but this is Boston's Cup to lose.
- buffalofan19



I don't think the East wins it this year
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 9 @ 12:42 PM ET
We've been criticizing the Pegula's for years for making naive and sentimental hires. This would take the cake.
- Lunaion

agreed
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 9 @ 12:42 PM ET
People want boucher lol 1-3-1 yeah that’s exciting
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

May 9 @ 12:44 PM ET
SUPPOSEDLY... we asked for Thomas or Kyrou and they countered with making the draft pick a 2nd instead of a 3rd or 4th if we took Tage Thompson instead.
- JVince11


When talking about the trade, Armstrong said in addition to Thompson, a 2nd, and salary dump Sobotka, Sabres wanted Thomas or Kyrou, who Armstrong considered untouchable, so the deal fell apart in the morning. But that afternoon Sabres agreed to take a first round pick in place of Thomas/Kyrou. Reading between the lines of his comments, the Sabres wanted Thomas or Kyrou, Blues said no, but Sabres waited because they knew Blues were desperate for a center. When Blues signed Bozak and suddenly weren't as desperate, Sabres came down in price, taking the first instead of Thomas/Kyrou, and Berglund had to be added now for salary reasons.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 9 @ 12:49 PM ET
We've been criticizing the Pegula's for years for making naive and sentimental hires. This would take the cake.
- Lunaion


I was all aboard the Gronborg hype train. But if my choices for experienced coaches are Lindy, Jacques Martin and Randy Carlyle, I'll take Lindy 10/10 times, and not out of sentimentality
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 9 @ 12:50 PM ET
And Go Boston
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 9 @ 12:51 PM ET
People want boucher lol 1-3-1 yeah that’s exciting
- gerbe75pts



People want a winning team

No matter how they get there

That's what the people want
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

May 9 @ 12:51 PM ET
About the only interesting coach out there for me is Keefe at the Marlies. However, my money is on us getting Jaques Martin or Tippet.

Should have signed AV when we had the chance.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 9 @ 12:52 PM ET
People want boucher lol 1-3-1 yeah that’s exciting
- gerbe75pts


Blues and Boston are 2 out of the top 3 defensive teams in the league and they are still playing. Carolina’s defense corps is out of this world and their 5v5 play this year is tops in the NHL.

Imagine how good we could be if we could shut down other teams top players ? The Isles were damn boring this year and they played until the end of April.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 9 @ 12:54 PM ET
When talking about the trade, Armstrong said in addition to Thompson, a 2nd, and salary dump Sobotka, Sabres wanted Thomas or Kyrou, who Armstrong considered untouchable, so the deal fell apart in the morning. But that afternoon Sabres agreed to take a first round pick in place of Thomas/Kyrou. Reading between the lines of his comments, the Sabres wanted Thomas or Kyrou, Blues said no, but Sabres waited because they knew Blues were desperate for a center. When Blues signed Bozak and suddenly weren't as desperate, Sabres came down in price, taking the first instead of Thomas/Kyrou, and Berglund had to be added now for salary reasons.
- Antilles


Sabre’s had alll the power and they failed does anyone honestly Believe that the blues were going with bozak as the main center ? The blues would’ve gave us Everything if we stuck to our guns
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 9 @ 1:03 PM ET
Blues and Boston are 2 out of the top 3 defensive teams in the league and they are still playing. Carolina’s defense corps is out of this world and their 5v5 play this year is tops in the NHL.

Imagine how good we could be if we could shut down other teams top players ? The Isles were damn boring this year and they played until the end of April.

- Pegullaville



Carolina and San Jose were top 5 in Shot attempts and expected goals for, both offensive metrics.

Carolina's D isn't a traditional shut down core, they're just really, really good in all 3 zones.

Edit: Boston was 10th in SA, STL, 9th in XGF. My point being none of these teams "1-3-1" there way to the final four. They're all deep and their overall expected goals has all 4 of them ranked in the top 6.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
I was all aboard the Gronborg hype train. But if my choices for experienced coaches are Lindy, Jacques Martin and Randy Carlyle, I'll take Lindy 10/10 times, and not out of sentimentality
- jcragcrumple


That was really directed at Lindy as president of hockey ops or anything similar.

Lindy's well qualified as a coach. After the buzz wears off, you really have to question if it's the right move for the organization. I have a hard time believing he's the best option, given where this team is at. He certainly isn't the worst.
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