People want a winning team

No matter how they get there

That's what the people want
- Stripes77

1-3-1 doesn't win, just helps you lose small so you can give the illusion of competitive hockey.

That was really directed at Lindy as president of hockey ops or anything similar.

Lindy's well qualified as a coach. After the buzz wears off, you really have to question if it's the right move for the organization. I have a hard time believing he's the best option, given where this team is at. He certainly isn't the worst.
- Lunaion

I'm of the opinion that the direction of the coaching search and the current state of the team means that we'll be discussing a coach and GM search next April. This all feels somewhat irrelevant to me

Sabre’s had alll the power and they failed does anyone honestly Believe that the blues were going with bozak as the main center ? The blues would’ve gave us Everything if we stuck to our guns
- gerbe75pts

Schenn would have been the #1 center as he was the year before, Bozak would have been the #2. Trading for O'Reilly allowed Schenn to move back to wing.

O'Reilly has had a hell of a year (best player on the team and every bit a #1 center), but he's struggled in the playoffs. Everyone thinks he was injured early in the Jets series when he was boarded twice. He's still playing 20 minutes but something is wrong with him and he's laboring.

I'm of the opinion that the direction of the coaching search and the current state of the team means that we'll be discussing a coach and GM search next April. This all feels somewhat irrelevant to me
- jcragcrumple

Hey look, we finally agree on something!

Carolina and San Jose were top 5 in Shot attempts and expected goals for, both offensive metrics.

Carolina's D isn't a traditional shut down core, they're just really, really good in all 3 zones.

Edit: Boston was 10th in SA, STL, 9th in XGF. My point being none of these teams "1-3-1" there way to the final four. They're all deep and their overall expected goals has all 4 of them ranked in the top 6.
- Sabresfan-365

Yes but chances that go in the net are what are important and Dallas, St.Louis, and Boston were 1-3 in GA in the Regular Season. I’m not saying they ran a 1-3-1, but they play well defensively and get good goaltending.

People get so hung up on chances we might as well just shoot the puck from Centre ice so our analytics look good. The teams with the most high danger chances and goals are what interest me. The teams with the least high danger shots against and goals against are what interest me.

In Game 7 the Blues outattempted the Stars 99-24 and were outshooting them 56-26 at one point yet Dallas led them in scoring chances 12-11. Figure that one out.

Thats the rumor I heard as well
- lulags

What a mistake. But at least Botterill doesn’t make mistakes

scarface got the bolts and sens to ECF's


go ahead and laugh because I want him here

dummies

Yes but chances that go in the net are what are important and Dallas, St.Louis, and Boston were 1-3 in GA in the Regular Season. I’m not saying they ran a 1-3-1, but they play well defensively and get good goaltending.

People get so hung up on chances we might as well just shoot the puck from Centre ice so our analytics look good. The teams with the most high danger chances and goals are what interest me. The teams with the least high danger shots against and goals against are what interest me.

In Game 7 the Blues outattempted the Stars 99-24 and were outshooting them 56-26 at one point yet Dallas led them in scoring chances 12-11. Figure that one out.
- Pegullaville

This would give you an astronomically low XGF, on account of shooting the puck from centre ice has a success rate of basically nothing (unless you're reinhart).

I don't know why you are citing one game out of like 100 to make that point but fwiw im pretty sure the Blues went on to win that game 7.

Schenn would have been the #1 center as he was the year before, Bozak would have been the #2. Trading for O'Reilly allowed Schenn to move back to wing.

O'Reilly has had a hell of a year (best player on the team and every bit a #1 center), but he's struggled in the playoffs. Everyone thinks he was injured early in the Jets series when he was boarded twice. He's still playing 20 minutes but something is wrong with him and he's laboring.
- charlest

he just has to be better. it starts with him.

scarface got the bolts and sens to ECF's


go ahead and laugh because I want him here

dummies
- homiedclown

Karlsson and Craig Anderson got them to the ECF. Scarface was just there. Just like Paul Maclean some years ago was supposedly a coaching genius.

People want a winning team

No matter how they get there

That's what the people want
- Stripes77

They've finally broken me and I no longer care if they win. I'm to the point where I'm just glad we have a professional hockey team in this city. If they can at least compete, I'm ok with that. Wins ? That's a bonus.

Way to go Sabres. Look what you've done to me.

Karlsson and Craig Anderson got them to the ECF. Scarface was just there. Just like Paul Maclean some years ago was supposedly a coaching genius.
- Sabresfan-365

he got the bolts there as well


I don't see any better vet options out there

unless you want to let Jack be a player/coach

This would give you an astronomically low XGF, on account of shooting the puck from centre ice has a success rate of basically nothing (unless you're reinhart).

I don't know why you are citing one game out of like 100 to make that point but fwiw im pretty sure the Blues went on to win that game 7.
- Sabresfan-365

Legwand did it too. We might want to start practicing this.

This would give you an astronomically low XGF, on account of shooting the puck from centre ice has a success rate of basically nothing (unless you're reinhart).

I don't know why you are citing one game out of like 100 to make that point but fwiw im pretty sure the Blues went on to win that game 7.
- Sabresfan-365

Yes and they gave up one goal in the process. Tampa blitzed the entire league and lost in the first round. Toronto had Probbaly the 2nd best offensive core and lost to a better defensive team in the Bruins. Carolina plays a very good team game with unselfish players who play all three zones. We need a coach who will come in and implement sound defensive structure because very soon we will have enough high impact forwards that we don’t have to run and gun for 60 minutes.

scarface got the bolts and sens to ECF's


go ahead and laugh because I want him here

dummies
- homiedclown

But did you get laughed at?

But did you get laughed at?
- jochfr

that's fine let's do what gerbe wants

put an old dinosaur behind the bench and enjoy 82 point seasons

But did you get laughed at?
- jochfr

Jason will be laughed at if he hires most of these retread jabronies

Yes and they gave up one goal in the process. Tampa blitzed the entire league and lost in the first round. Toronto had Probbaly the 2nd best offensive core and lost to a better defensive team in the Bruins. Carolina plays a very good team game with unselfish players who play all three zones. We need a coach who will come in and implement sound defensive structure because very soon we will have enough high impact forwards that we don’t have to run and gun for 60 minutes.
- Pegullaville

As a general rule, If you're getting a lot of chances and shot attempts, it means the other team doesn't have the puck, which is a solid way to keep a team from scoring.

I agree in general they need to up their game defensively, because neither extreme really works. All four remaining teams have good balance, my point was more against the 1-3-1 specifically. This is a step away from balance, not towards it.

he got the bolts there as well


I don't see any better vet options out there

unless you want to let Jack be a player/coach
- homiedclown

My point in its entirety is to not go after one. Most of them suck. Hire a guy with forward thinking tactics and give him a team he can actually win with.

that's fine let's do what gerbe wants

put an old dinosaur behind the bench and enjoy 82 point seasons
- homiedclown

Who said I want an old dinosaur lol

As a general rule, If you're getting a lot of chances and shot attempts, it means the other team doesn't have the puck, which is a solid way to keep a team from scoring.

I agree in general they need to up their game defensively, because neither extreme really works. All four remaining teams have good balance, my point was more against the 1-3-1 specifically. This is a step away from balance, not towards it.
- Sabresfan-365

Systems are fine and all, but we have really bad defensive players. Forwards and Defenders. That can't just be swept under the rug.

Hey look, we finally agree on something!
- Sabresfan-365

Hire a guy with forward thinking tactics and give him a team he can actually win with.
- Sabresfan-365

like the swede who they did not offer a job to?


if they don't grab the marlies coach, it's a piss poor job of filling an important position

UPL names OHL MVP.

like the swede who they did not offer a job to?


if they don't grab the marlies coach, it's a piss poor job of filling an important position
- homiedclown

little short sighted don't ya think? I'm sure there are decent candidates out there outside of Gronborg and Keefe. Let's remember that the Sabres were not the only team to not offer him a HC position.