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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 2:13 PM ET
The providence head coach was an intriguing option. i dont know if hes still in the mix though
- Sabresfan-365


when the gronborg story broke, the source, or one of the sources said that botts was interested in a coach with nhl head coaching expereince
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
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New #Seahawks pass-rusher Ziggy Ansah is signing a 1-year deal worth a base value of $9M, source said. With incentives, the deal could be worth up to almost $13M.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
Sabres didn't interview him from what I read

If that's the case Botterill has a clear vision of what he wants right or wrong

- Stripes77

you are right, he didn't even talk to him
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
McCabe maybe but lacks consistency there. It is depressing, yes. That's why I'd rather they focus on guys like Hagelin in FA. Cheaper option who can give you some solid two way play in the bottom 6.

Sign/trade for a few of those and suddenly the third and fourth line aren't just out there to let the 1st line catch their breath.

- Sabresfan-365


Agreed. Everyone wants to run our top defensive players out of town. That's fine, but the crop coming up from Rochester doesn't fill those roles. JB's best moves this summer might be for unheralded players that they desperately need.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
Like I said before, that was directed at Lindy as president.

Maybe Nate Leaman is the perfect fit, there's no way any of us would know. I don't stress about it. Our knowledge of coaching is about as superficial as it gets.

- Lunaion

got it...problem is, I don't think botts wants to hire a rookie coach...Housley kinda ruined that
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 9 @ 2:15 PM ET
when the gronborg story broke, the source, or one of the sources said that botts was interested in a coach with nhl head coaching expereince
- Michael Pachla

what's he waiting for, thanksgiving?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 9 @ 2:17 PM ET
Ian Rapoport

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New #Seahawks pass-rusher Ziggy Ansah is signing a 1-year deal worth a base value of $9M, source said. With incentives, the deal could be worth up to almost $13M.

- Stripes77


I'm pretty sure he signed yesterday
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 9 @ 2:18 PM ET
when the gronborg story broke, the source, or one of the sources said that botts was interested in a coach with nhl head coaching expereince
- Michael Pachla



Im just hoping thats not true. Those guys end up with the same timeline


The team will see progress under them because Botts will actually make the right moves and hey the coach may even try something new.

And as soon the expectations are up, the pressure will create new challenges and the coach will fall back into old habits. That's how shane doan comes out of retirement to see 21 mins a night while mittelstadt is on line 4.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 9 @ 2:19 PM ET
got it...problem is, I don't think botts wants to hire a rookie coach...Housley kinda ruined that
- Michael Pachla


Vogl's source is quoted as saying that Botts' "strong preference" is hiring an experienced coach.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 9 @ 2:19 PM ET
Housley was the "best candidate available" according to us. We don't know Richard.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=144869&page=3

- TheSabresTaco


There's a lot to this. I was happy with Housley being hired. I think I soured on him earlier than a lot of folks, but you don't know until you see the way they work.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
Vogl's source is quoted as saying that Botts' "strong preference" is hiring an experienced coach.
- TheSabresTaco



Housley was an assistant with no HC experience outside of one tournament with team usa, no?

At least with Keefe or Leaman you're adding a guy who has in general been a HC for quite a while.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
People want boucher lol 1-3-1 yeah that’s exciting
- gerbe75pts



I want wins.

I don't care how they get them.

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
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New #Seahawks pass-rusher Ziggy Ansah is signing a 1-year deal worth a base value of $9M, source said. With incentives, the deal could be worth up to almost $13M.

- Stripes77


That sucks. Thought he'd be a good short term add.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 9 @ 2:21 PM ET
There's a lot to this. I was happy with Housley being hired. I think I soured on him earlier than a lot of folks, but you don't know until you see the way they work.
- RhinoFan


Yep. Like I said. We don't know ass.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 9 @ 2:21 PM ET
got it...problem is, I don't think botts wants to hire a rookie coach...Housley kinda ruined that
- Michael Pachla


I always thought Ralph Krueger was a fascinating candidate, as a coach or president. Haven't heard his name much recently.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 2:23 PM ET
what's he waiting for, thanksgiving?
- homiedclown


gronborg hasn't coached a full season in 14 years
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 9 @ 2:24 PM ET
I always thought Ralph Krueger was a fascinating candidate, as a coach or president. Haven't heard his name much recently.
- Lunaion



President or GM for sure. He did wonders for Southampton in the prem. His contract there was expiring june 30th so last month they mutually parted ways(not really though)

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 2:26 PM ET
Im just hoping thats not true. Those guys end up with the same timeline


The team will see progress under them because Botts will actually make the right moves and hey the coach may even try something new.

And as soon the expectations are up, the pressure will create new challenges and the coach will fall back into old habits. That's how shane doan comes out of retirement to see 21 mins a night while mittelstadt is on line 4.

- Sabresfan-365

they gotta start winning...botts tried the something new approach when he hired Housley and Housley had great ideas, but he didn't know how to coach the players he had...gimme a coach who can recognize the teams strengths and design a game-plan to play to them
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 9 @ 2:26 PM ET
President or GM for sure. He did wonders for Southampton in the prem. His contract there was expiring june 30th so last month they mutually parted ways(not really though)
- Sabresfan-365


Maybe. He did coach in the NHL. Fascinating guy and the most unusual candidate imaginable.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 9 @ 2:31 PM ET
Maybe. He did coach in the NHL. Fascinating guy and the most unusual candidate imaginable.
- Lunaion


I’m down. He’s more a CEO type though - so POHO - not so much a head coach.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 9 @ 2:31 PM ET
And Go Boston
- gerbe75pts





don't bring that sh1t in here.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 9 @ 2:35 PM ET
I’m down. He’s more a CEO type though - so POHO - not so much a head coach.
- Der Kaiser


Probably, still a name I'd like to hear in some role here someday. If he had no interest in coaching, that would explain why we stopped hearing his name mentioned.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
I always thought Ralph Krueger was a fascinating candidate, as a coach or president. Haven't heard his name much recently.
- Lunaion


I know so little about him, can't say.

I understand there are other options, the ones I was interested in aren't or won't be coming here. All the hope in the world that I am dead wrong again as I was with Housley.

He's had success in multiple sports which leads me to believe Krueger would be a good coach for pro athletes. As Kaiser said, I heard he wants in management as well, but either way, I'm shooting at a target with the blindfold of ignorance over my eyes.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 9 @ 2:46 PM ET
Boston trades Thornton for nothing, Kessel for Seguin and Hamilton, then proceeded to trade Seguin for nothing. Hamilton traded for futures. That team has still been in the thick of things for years though on the backs of Bergeron and Chara even though they lose every trade they make.
- Pegullaville


That doesn’t mean losing trades is a good idea
They’re the exception
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 9 @ 2:49 PM ET
they gotta start winning...botts tried the something new approach when he hired Housley and Housley had great ideas, but he didn't know how to coach the players he had...gimme a coach who can recognize the teams strengths and design a game-plan to play to them
- Michael Pachla


Smart approach.

Wait for, "Based on your roster I think we should play X style..."

Seems like a few of these guys are stuck in their ways though. McLellan comes to mind. He'd institute his system and it would work or it wouldn't. We need someone with some flexibility.
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