Yeah it gets everybody talking, which is the end goal.

The situation is no different than it has always been. His leverage isn't exactly news, we know he has most of it.
- Sabresfan-365

I think the Sabres having the ability to give the 8th year is a giant advantage.

A team is going to have to give an extra mil over what the Sabres are willing to give per year plus our owner will pay in bonuses.

I think Botts is letting Skinner test the market and he’s going to find out really quick no one will pay him Stone $

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- Stripes77

I think it's 50/50

They gotta show him some bold moves for sure, in addition to the paycheck

But more to the point, the counter argument to Yost's colorful language is Stamkos

I think the Sabres having the ability to give the 8th year is a giant advantage.

A team is going to have to give an extra mil over what the Sabres are willing to give per year plus our owner will pay in bonuses.

I think Botts is letting Skinner test the market and he’s going to find out really quick no one will pay him Stone $
- OneKaneOneCup

yeah I have no way of knowing if skinner wants to be here but Im fairly confident that the Sabres will give him the best possible contract he can get.

Most of the FA contenders will likely be dueling it out for bobrovsky/panarin/karlsson

It’s honestly crazy to me how negative people are over a run of awful goaltending and a below average coach.

This team has Dahlin, Eichel and Reinhart.

They have the best goalie prospect out there

They have a really solid center prospect

They have the 7th pick

They have cap space

It will be fine

https://twitter.com/AzorcanGlobal/status/1126943609419206656


I was surprised to hear @FriedgeHNIC mention Ralph Krueger today on @OilersNow as a possible head coach of the @BuffaloSabres.
I personally like Ralph and think he would do well in #Buffalo.
Dave Tippett and Jacques Martin also mentioned as possibilities


@Lunion and the other guy who mentioned him (sorry I forgot)
- Sabresfan-365

Kaiser.

yeah I have no way of knowing if skinner wants to be here but Im fairly confident that the Sabres will give him the best possible contract he can get.

Most of the FA contenders will likely be dueling it out for bobrovsky/panarin/karlsson
- Sabresfan-365

It wouldn’t shock me if Skinner gets done right after the coach is hired.

I think he’s partly waiting on that too

Kaiser.
- mhp

nah i would've remembered kaiser there was another person that brought up kreuger. Its interesting, i still like him better for front office work but a lot of EDM folks think he didn't get a fair shake and liked what he brought

It wouldn’t shock me if Skinner gets done right after the coach is hired.

I think he’s partly waiting on that too
- OneKaneOneCup

Possible, but I still think he'll test FA. At one point they were pretty close and then things cooled off so I dont think they're low balling him.

Possible, but I still think he'll test FA. At one point they were pretty close and then things cooled off so I dont think they're low balling him.
- Sabresfan-365

Well that would maybe be a sign that the coach is important

Once Skinner saw the writing on the wall that Housley wasn’t coming back he may have had reservations

It’s no secret he didn’t get along with a few people in Carolina

Well that would maybe be a sign that the coach is important

Once Skinner saw the writing on the wall that Housley wasn’t coming back he may have had reservations

It’s no secret he didn’t get along with a few people in Carolina
- OneKaneOneCup

Im sure it's important, but I think he'll look around in FA regardless. His agent will likely persuade him to. He's waited this long, and he's got all the leverage with the Sabres. They'll wait on him.

Im sure it's important, but I think he'll look around in FA regardless. His agent will likely persuade him to. He's waited this long, and he's got all the leverage with the Sabres. They'll wait on him.
- Sabresfan-365

I really think it all depends on how much Skinner wants to be here specifically

The Sabres really can’t afford to wait on him in terms of draft day trades and planning on future cap ramifications

Sabres are full on buyers right now.

Again I think the extra year plays a huge role.

They can tell Skinner that they’re final offer is 8.5 x8 around the time of the draft and will move on if he doesn’t sign.

That’s 68 mil, which a team would have to offer 9.7 over 7 to match

I think Botts presses after the coach and he signs

Tippett looks like a competent hire, does he not?
- Powerslave

No.

he's gone

nothing gonna bring him back
- homiedclown

Brent Mydland had the best vocals for this song. What would have been....heard it really took the wind out of Jerry's sails when he od'd

No.
- Wetbandit1

mind your (frank)ing business (frank)er

Giving up a top 6 forward to move a contract is easy? It will be a tough pill for them to swallow, but a rebuilding team will at least be interested.
- Sabresfan-365

It'll be far easier for the Leafs to give that up than it will be to find a taker. Zaitsev is making $4.5M per for the next 5 seasons and he'll be 28 at the start of next season. In your scenario, you're taking on at least $8M, and maybe $9M in salary for one useful player? Not easy.

I really think it all depends on how much Skinner wants to be here specifically

The Sabres really can’t afford to wait on him in terms of draft day trades and planning on future cap ramifications

Sabres are full on buyers right now.

Again I think the extra year plays a huge role.

They can tell Skinner that they’re final offer is 8.5 x8 around the time of the draft and will move on if he doesn’t sign.

That’s 68 mil, which a team would have to offer 9.7 over 7 to match

I think Botts presses after the coach and he signs
- OneKaneOneCup

I don't disagree, and I do think eventually they will make their final offer to Skinner, but Im guessing Skinner risks missing out anyways.

I don't project Botts to be that active on draft day. He should be, but Im not as certain

It'll be far easier for the Leafs to give that up than it will be to find a taker. Zaitsev is making $4.5M per for the next 5 seasons and he'll be 28 at the start of next season. In your scenario, you're taking on at least $8M, and maybe $9M in salary for one useful player? Not easy.
- kingcong39

If you're a rebuilding team this is a non issue. You take the talent, absorb zaitsev's hit to get to the floor and in a couple years, you either amnesty or buy him out.

If you buy him out in 2021, you save 3.4, 1.4, 1.4 the first three years.

And then take a 1 mil hit in the final 3.

At this point just bring back ruff and see if he can work his magic like the golden days he’s never had this much talent after the cup run’s
- gerbe75pts

At this point,
i think the best idea actually could be Ruff
And then bring in a young-ish asst coach for him to groom
Then Lindy eventually transitions to Team President to help Botts run the show
And be the in-between guy thy the Pegulas can “trust” so they don’t feel the need to be so involved

I think that scenario would pretty much check all the boxes of what we are looking for

I think it's 50/50

They gotta show him some bold moves for sure, in addition to the paycheck

But more to the point, the counter argument to Yost's colorful language is Stamkos
- jcragcrumple

Except with Stamkos, he knew he’d still be on a top team returning to Tampa
That’s still a question mark for Skinner here
Tough comparison to make

At this point,
i think the best idea actually could be Ruff
And then bring in a young-ish asst coach for him to groom
Then Lindy eventually transitions to Team President to help Botts run the show
And be the in-between guy thy the Pegulas can “trust” so they don’t feel the need to be so involved

I think that scenario would pretty much check all the boxes of what we are looking for
- jdfitz77

This is where I am at as well

We all get what we want eventually

A youngish coach who brings new blood and ideas (after Lindy gets this team to cut their crap and play hard all the time)

Then someone to play the go between with the Pegulas

This is where I am at as well

We all get what we want eventually

A youngish coach who brings new blood and ideas (after Lindy gets this team to cut their crap and play hard all the time)

Then someone to play the go between with the Pegulas
- Stripes77

There really isn’t a coaching candidate out there who checks all the boxes, or stands out among the rest...
so i think that’s the best idea for us

[quote=Sabresfan-365]I only go off the surface level stuff because thats all we really know. There's enough there that makes Leaman an intriguing option. Could it blow up like Hakstol in Philly? sure. Could it succeed like Montgomery in Dallas? sure.

As for who will fail, there's way more data on that. We see it every year. The same group of incredibly mediocre coaches are cycled through and each time it's "totally going to be different" but isn't.
- TheSabresTaco

But that's not true, sometimes.

Pete DeBoer- Got better everywhere he's gone(has also gone to the Cup Final twice)
Bill Peters- Second team. learned from mistakes from first time out. Also only one year, let's not get carried away.
Craig Berube- Second team
John Tortorella- Ok
Peter Laviolette- Ok
Gerard Gallant- Third team, but inexplicably fired from second after their second playoff appearance in like 12 years. And on top of it, left at the away arena which seemed incredibly petty, just fire him in the morning.

Here's a pile of retreads that seem to be doing pretty well for themselves. You can even throw in a Jaques Martin type in Claude Julien, who did some pretty nice things with the Habs this year.

Retreads can be poopty. But they definitely don't have to be, and there's a fair chance they won't be.

I want my GM to operate using all available resources. I do not want the guy who thinks his eyes are always right, his 80 year old scouts eyes are always right, and that truculence will bring us the stanley cup.
- Sabresfan-365

It's just classic overreaction. First time coach didn't work last time, so must go with coach who has tons, none of it really any good.

Rex Ryan was brash and a failure, so let's hire his polar opposite, jury's still out on whether he's any good, but it's the same thing, go with the opposite of what just failed, because reasons.

It makes a certain amount of sense on the surface, you got bit and don't want to get bit again. But if you look just a little closer, Phil didn't bite you because he was a first time coach, he bit you because he couldn't connect. Rex Ryan bit you because he didn't know how to coach to a team's strengths. Torts is pretty (frank)ing brash, but he coaches to his team's strengths.

https://twitter.com/AzorcanGlobal/status/1126943609419206656


I was surprised to hear @FriedgeHNIC mention Ralph Krueger today on @OilersNow as a possible head coach of the @BuffaloSabres.
I personally like Ralph and think he would do well in #Buffalo.
Dave Tippett and Jacques Martin also mentioned as possibilities


@Lunion and the other guy who mentioned him (sorry I forgot)
- Sabresfan-365

Kaiser

Edit: Late.

mind your (frank)ing business (frank)er
- jochfr

Suck it, traitorous scum.