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gerbe75pts
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May 10 @ 12:59 PM ET
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Secret Sabres Twitter Source says belief is that it’s Tippett’s to take or turn down.

- Stripes77


Jeremy white is the new EK
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 10 @ 12:59 PM ET
I am surprised that they did not do that. Raises some questions about how deep the pockets really are.
- Sabresfan-365


Could be explained simply: STL wanted ROR but weren't willing to pay more for his services if the bonus was paid

I have no insider info, but doesn't mean Terry cheaped out on it either.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 10 @ 1:03 PM ET
At the same time, though, more teams were interested in O'Reilly if Buffalo paid the roster bonus.
- buffalofan19


It's a massive difference though between:

The sabres wouldn't pay the bonus

And

The Sabres wanted more in return if they paid the bonus.

My guess is the difference in the trade was probably Thomas or Kyrou instead of Thompson. The blues didn't want to do that, so they paid the bonus instead
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
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May 10 @ 1:05 PM ET
Jason Pominville and Vanek were pretty good IMO
- OneKaneOneCup



From 07-08 to 11-12 they were 2.7 and 3.1 WAR players respectively

2 and 3 during the years we were a playoff team


Skinner this year was 3.1 this year. All 3 good to pretty good, surprised a little by how close skinner and vanek are
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 10 @ 1:06 PM ET
From 07-08 to 11-12 they were 2.7 and 3.1 WAR players respectively

2 and 3 during the years we were a playoff team


Skinner this year was 3.1 this year. All 3 good to pretty good, surprised a little by how close skinner and vanek are

- Sabresfan-365

Vanek was excellent. So was Pommer
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 1:06 PM ET
Jeremy white is the new EK
- gerbe75pts



Well he did used to write here.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 10 @ 1:07 PM ET
Could be explained simply: STL wanted ROR but weren't willing to pay more for his services if the bonus was paid

I have no insider info, but doesn't mean Terry cheaped out on it either.

- RhinoFan


But you'd make ROR a more attractive asset to other teams if the bonus is paid, so if STL is out you probably find another taker
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 10 @ 1:08 PM ET
Risto and a pick for
Nylander and Kadri.

Solves the Leafs cap issues!
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 1:08 PM ET
Vanek was excellent. So was Pommer
- OneKaneOneCup



They both have carved out very good careers.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 1:09 PM ET
Vanek was excellent. So was Pommer
- OneKaneOneCup



Yes they were
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 1:09 PM ET
But you'd make ROR a more attractive asset to other teams if the bonus is paid, so if STL is out you probably find another taker
- Sabresfan-365



There were but paying the bonus was out.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 1:09 PM ET
There were but paying the bonus was out.
- dadeadhead



yeah thats what i meant earlier about the questions it raises
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
yeah thats what i meant earlier about the questions it raises
- Sabresfan-365



Imo when moving ROR the best deal regardless of paying the bonus should have been made if money is no option.

It wasn’t.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 1:13 PM ET
Imo when moving ROR the best deal regardless of paying the bonus should have been made if money is no option.

It wasn’t.

- dadeadhead



Well yeah but it sounds like the best deal may have come after paying the bonus
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
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May 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
For sh!ts and giggles:

John Vogl's List on the Athletic:

Todd Richards (out)
Dave Tippett
Jacques Martin
Lindy Ruff
Kirk Muller
Bob Boughner
Jack Capuano
Bob Hartley
Tony Granato
John Stevens
Glen Gulutzan
Kevin Dineen
Scott Arniel
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 10 @ 1:15 PM ET
For sh!ts and giggles:

John Vogl's List on the Athletic:

Todd Richards (out)
Dave Tippett
Jacques Martin
Lindy Ruff
Kirk Muller
Bob Boughner
Jack Capuano
Bob Hartley
Tony Granato
John Stevens
Glen Gulutzan
Kevin Dineen
Scott Arniel

- buffalofan19


This is a truly horrible list
gerbe75pts
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May 10 @ 1:16 PM ET

Jordan Schultz
@Schultz_Report
Columbus Blue Jackets Assistant GM Bill Zito is in Seattle interviewing for the GM job today for Seattle’s NHL expansion team, per source.


Dave Tippett

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 1:17 PM ET
Jordan Schultz
@Schultz_Report
Columbus Blue Jackets Assistant GM Bill Zito is in Seattle interviewing for the GM job today for Seattle’s NHL expansion team, per source.


Dave Tippett


- gerbe75pts



That'd be a great hire for them, he was rumoured for this job too IIRC


Edit: Sabres GM i mean
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 1:18 PM ET
This is a truly horrible list
- Sabresfan-365


Okay, let me rephrase:

For raging diarrhea and maniacal laughing:

John Vogl's List on the Athletic:

Todd Richards (out)
Dave Tippett
Jacques Martin
Lindy Ruff
Kirk Muller
Bob Boughner
Jack Capuano
Bob Hartley
Tony Granato
John Stevens
Glen Gulutzan
Kevin Dineen
Scott Arniel
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
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May 10 @ 1:18 PM ET
This is a truly horrible list
- Sabresfan-365


Ruff and Dave Tippett

Let’s go ...

Who’s your guy
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 10 @ 1:18 PM ET
But you'd make ROR a more attractive asset to other teams if the bonus is paid, so if STL is out you probably find another taker
- Sabresfan-365


I hear you, but there's still the chance that STL had the highest offer out there. There aren't a ton of teams that were looking for a top line center signed long term.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 1:20 PM ET
Imo when moving ROR the best deal regardless of paying the bonus should have been made if money is no option.

It wasn’t.

- dadeadhead


The other interpretation is that other teams weren't willing to pay the increased asset price if the Sabres paid the bonus

I'm sure Botterill let them know what that price would be
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 10 @ 1:21 PM ET
I hear you, but there's still the chance that STL had the highest offer out there. There aren't a ton of teams that were looking for a top line center signed long term.
- RhinoFan


Isn't is close to certain that they had the best offer?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 10 @ 1:22 PM ET
Ruff and Dave Tippett

Let’s go ...

Who’s your guy

- gerbe75pts



Tippett
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 10 @ 1:23 PM ET
Ruff and Dave Tippett

Let’s go ...

Who’s your guy

- gerbe75pts



Neither. Tippett attends one analytics conference and everyone thinks he's a genius. Never mind the fact that he and Chayka couldn't get along because the GM would make clever moves and the coach would proceed to give all the ice time to shane doan.

But hey, Im sure it will be different this time. Because coaches never fall back to old habits. Especially old school coaches from Saskatoon.
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