golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Benn is a star and his value is unquestionable - onesmallleap
Jamie Benn is 30 years old this July. Unless we're getting him for free or relatively little assets without much term then it's a pass for me.
Edit: I just saw he has another 6 years on his contract.
Assuming we go deep in the playoffs, he'll be nearly 36 at the end of that deal. That's 2-3 years more than I want at that cap hit, even before you factor in a rising cap.
I don't think his style of play will portend to aging well. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Jamie Benn is 30 years old this July. Unless we're getting him for free or relatively little assets without much term then it's a pass for me.
Edit: I just saw he has another 6 years on his contract.
Assuming we go deep in the playoffs, he'll be nearly 36 at the end of that deal. That's 2-3 years more than I want at that cap hit, even before you factor in a rising cap.
I don't think his style of play will portend to aging well. - golfingsince
Too few forwards play at a high level past 30 unlike D. Iām with you. š
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Button's revised top 15 picks.
Podkolzin drops out of top 10 and Caufield might be the most surprising rank on there @ 5.
Food for thought
New Jersey Devils
1. Jack Hughes (Last Mock: 1)
Centre | USA NTDP (USHL) | 5'10 | 168 lbs. | May 14, 2001
New York Rangers
2. Kaapo Kakko (Last Mock: 2)
Centre/Right Wing | Turku (SM Liiga) | 6'2 | 194 lbs. | Feb. 13, 2001
Chicago Blackhawks
3. Bowen Byram (Last Mock: 3)
Defence | Vancouver (WHL) | 6'1 | 194 lbs. | Jun. 13, 2001
Colorado Avalanche
4. Kirby Dach (Last Mock: 5)
Centre/Right Wing | Saskatoon (WHL) | 6'4 | 199 lbs. | Jan. 21, 2001
Los Angeles Kings
5. Cole Caufield (Last Mock: 8)
Right Wing | USA NTDP (USHL) | 5'7 | 162 lbs. | Jan. 2, 2001
Detroit Red Wings
6. Dylan Cozens (Last Mock: 4)
Centre | Lethbridge (WHL) | 6'3 | 181 lbs. | Feb. 9, 2001
Buffalo Sabres
7. Matthew Boldy (Last Mock: 7)
Left Wing | USA NTDP (USHL) | 6'2 | 187 lbs. | Apr. 5, 2001
Edmonton Oilers
8. Trevor Zegras (Last Mock: 13)
Centre | USA NTDP (USHL) | 6'0 | 166 lbs. | Mar. 20, 2001
Anaheim Ducks
9. Alex Turcotte (Last Mock: 12)
Centre | USA NTDP (USHL) | 5'11 | 189 lbs. | Feb. 26, 2001
Vancouver Canucks
10. Philip Broberg (Last Mock: 9)
Defence | AIK (SWE-Als) | 6'3 | 199 lbs. | Jun. 25, 2001
Philadelphia Flyers
11. Peyton Krebs (Last Mock: 11)
Centre | Winnipeg (WHL) | 5'11 | 180 lbs. | Jan. 26, 2001
Minnesota Wild
12. Arthur Kaliyev (Last Mock: 18)
Centre | Hamilton (OHL) | 6'1 | 190 lbs. | Jan. 26, 2001
Florida Panthers
13. Vasili Podkolzin (Last Mock: 6)
Right Wing | St. Petersburg (MHL) | 6'1 | 183 lbs. | Jun. 24, 2001
Arizona Coyotes
14. Thomas Harley (Last Mock: 10)
Defence | Mississauga (OHL) | 6'3 | 188 lbs. | Aug. 19, 2001
Montreal Canadiens
15. Raphael Lavoie (Last Mock: 15)
Left Wing/Right Wing | Halifax (QMJHL) | 6'4 | 191 lbs. | Sept. 25, 2000 - dbot
That Buttons guy is pretty smart |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Too few forwards play at a high level past 30 unlike D. Iām with you. š - Nighthawk
It's so much harder to close that gap as you age, your forecheck becomes less imposing. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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It's so much harder to close that gap as you age, your forecheck becomes less imposing. - golfingsince
True & only leaves scoring that cannot drop off too much. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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That Buttons guy is pretty smart - VANTEL
As much as we need more skilled skating RHD idk if 10oa is advisable. 2nd round is better imo |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Picking D later in the draft makes more sense them being so hard to project. Other than the obvious types like a Heiskanen |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Picking D later in the draft makes more sense them being so hard to project. Other than the obvious types like a Heiskanen - Nighthawk
seems like over the past 6-8 drafts just as many first round d have panned out as forwards. You're going to get duds sometimes, I'm all for BPA though and JB will pick the right player imo. |
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Sayulita Joined: 09.02.2014
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seems like over the past 6-8 drafts just as many first round d have panned out as forwards. You're going to get duds sometimes, I'm all for BPA though and JB will pick the right player imo. - neem55
I wouldn't call Joe Levy a dud yet. if he can improve his skating you never know. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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As much as we need more skilled skating RHD idk if 10oa is advisable. 2nd round is better imo - Nighthawk
Fill the needs.
Outside of the top 5 don't worry about BPA. |
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Fill the needs.
Outside of the top 5 don't worry about BPA. - LordHumungous
Every position. BPA. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Every position. BPA. - Marwood
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Fill the needs.
Outside of the top 5 don't worry about BPA. - LordHumungous
Counterpoint. Canucks have needs all over and "BPA" should be factored in every single pick as that player in any position could potentially fill a hole in the not so distant future. If the Canucks had little needs and the draft was deep and they felt a specific player could fill a hole and play immediately, I get the "draft specific need and position" but we arent close yet. |
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Counterpoint. Canucks have needs all over and "BPA" should be factored in every single pick as that player in any position could potentially fill a hole in the not so distant future. If the Canucks had little needs and the draft was deep and they felt a specific player could fill a hole and play immediately, I get the "draft specific need and position" but we arent close yet. - Codes1087
The 9 th best forward will not be the BPA Have a good day gents |
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Counterpoint. Canucks have needs all over and "BPA" should be factored in every single pick as that player in any position could potentially fill a hole in the not so distant future. If the Canucks had little needs and the draft was deep and they felt a specific player could fill a hole and play immediately, I get the "draft specific need and position" but we arent close yet. - Codes1087
I used less words. |
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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The 9 th best forward will not be the BPA Have a good day gents - VANTEL
The 9th best forward might be better than the 2nd best d-man. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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The 9 th best forward will not be the BPA Have a good day gents - VANTEL
Not speaking specifically about this draft, I honestly have no idea who the 10th BPA is, or will be, just speaking generally. If it happens to be a Dman, then it's best to take him. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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I used less words. - Marwood
Usually the case lol |
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If you are going to be pissed if Canucks sign Myers and Gardiner long term then you better hope the team drafts a Dman that will be ready in two years |
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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If you are going to be pissed if Canucks sign Myers and Gardiner long term then you better hope the team drafts a Dman that will be ready in two years - VANTEL
There are other rounds beyond the 1st. Draft 4 dmen after the 1st. |
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There are other rounds beyond the 1st. Draft 4 dmen after the 1st. - Marwood
Easier to find 4 forwards in later rounds. If we were drafting top 5 I would be all in for it.
I see very little value in some of these forwards that some in here get boners for,but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I really laugh when I see Cozens and Dach in the top 10. Some team are going to be getting hurt feelings in a few years when they watch them develop .
Cam York Seider and Broberg would would all give us a great back end for years in about another two years. I honestly can't figure out why people go nuts over Krebbs and Newhook but like I said everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Usually each year there are about 6 impact forwards that make the NHL from the first round but I am sure we will grab one with the 9 th choice. |
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The 9th best forward might be better than the 2nd best d-man. - Marwood
Wrong |
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Wrong - Jkuzzi
How's your Listerine hangover? |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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The 9 th best forward will not be the BPA Have a good day gents - VANTEL
yup
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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If you are going to be pissed if Canucks sign Myers and Gardiner long term then you better hope the team drafts a Dman that will be ready in two years - VANTEL
Iām at peace with Broberg, Myers and Ferland
Serenity |
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