andddd you totally miss the point for why he was mentioned, keep trying Daryl, you'll get there.
- ClaudeFather

i will keep trying.

imagine if he was still flyers property. all you homers would be salivating over his first ahl year.

i will keep trying.

imagine if he was still flyers property. all you homers would be salivating over his first ahl year.
- daryl stanley

Maybe bring Filipula back.....
- daryl stanley

How dare you

I've been saying Ghost for RNH ever since the end of the season. Edmonton saves nearly 2 million on the cap and gets about an even swap on value. Defenseman are higher value pieces in the NHL.
- youarewrong

Another Flyer Fan trade. Trade a player coming off his worst career season for a player coming off his best career season. A third rounder -20 D man for a first over all. And then we wonder why it never happens.

I've been saying Ghost for RNH ever since the end of the season. Edmonton saves nearly 2 million on the cap and gets about an even swap on value. Defenseman are higher value pieces in the NHL.

- youarewrong

why are you giving up on Ghost so quickly after a down year? The guy is one season removed from having 65 points in 78 games, at age 24 no less! One down season and we're trading him? It's not that I don't want RNH or don't think the trade is fair or not, but guys like Ghost don't grow on trees. The guy is an absolute offensive threat from the blue line, can QB any PP unit you want, skates well, makes crisp passes, and is on a cap friendly deal for years. With a new coach that predicates his system on breakouts, and speed through the neutral zone, I am anxious to see what Ghost can bring after this year. Ghost, Konecny, and Sanheim head my list of players I am anxious to see in this system, and also Patrick, but just in a general sense

why are you giving up on Ghost so quickly after a down year?
- sjk540

I've been saying Ghost for RNH ever since the end of the season. Edmonton saves nearly 2 million on the cap and gets about an even swap on value. Defenseman are higher value pieces in the NHL.
- youarewrong

Another Flyer Fan trade. Trade a player coming off his worst career season for a player coming off his best career season. A third rounder -20 D man for a first over all. And then we wonder why it never happens.
- Djapana

Where they were drafted is irrelevant at this point

- Tomahawk

that was comprehensive

The more I explore RNH, the more I think he would make a good target for a trade. Edmonton is center rich and they really could use an NHL ready d-man.
- MBFlyerfan

Edmonton could use another d-man but imo, it's forward where they need the most help followed by needing another goalie. I would love RNH but I'm not doing that deal if I am Edmonton. If Edmonton is going to trade RNH they have to get back multiple NHL players.

why are you giving up on Ghost so quickly after a down year? The guy is one season removed from having 65 points in 78 games, at age 24 no less! One down season and we're trading him? It's not that I don't want RNH or don't think the trade is fair or not, but guys like Ghost don't grow on trees. The guy is an absolute offensive threat from the blue line, can QB any PP unit you want, skates well, makes crisp passes, and is on a cap friendly deal for years. With a new coach that predicates his system on breakouts, and speed through the neutral zone, I am anxious to see what Ghost can bring after this year. Ghost, Konecny, and Sanheim head my list of players I am anxious to see in this system, and also Patrick, but just in a general sense
- sjk540

I wouldn't be surprised if neither ghost nor TK were here next year.

I wouldn't be surprised if neither ghost nor TK were here next year.
- FlyerFan16

you wouldn't be surprised? really? thats interesting, i think it's a foregone conclusion you have TK in the top 9, i understand the Ghost rumors after his down year, but 100% disagree with moving him. Under AV, i want to see Ghost, Sanheim, and Myers for a long time. I think Provy is as solid as they come and can play in any system, but I especially think the aforementioned 3 would benefit greatly from AV's system

why are you giving up on Ghost so quickly after a down year? The guy is one season removed from having 65 points in 78 games, at age 24 no less! One down season and we're trading him? It's not that I don't want RNH or don't think the trade is fair or not, but guys like Ghost don't grow on trees. The guy is an absolute offensive threat from the blue line, can QB any PP unit you want, skates well, makes crisp passes, and is on a cap friendly deal for years. With a new coach that predicates his system on breakouts, and speed through the neutral zone, I am anxious to see what Ghost can bring after this year. Ghost, Konecny, and Sanheim head my list of players I am anxious to see in this system, and also Patrick, but just in a general sense
- sjk540

Trading Ghost for RNH isn't really giving up on Ghost. It's trading from a position of depth to address an area lacking depth. I don't know if Edm wants Ghost but it's a move I'd be more than fine with. Our PK has been killing us for years and RNH would really help us there in addition to giving us strong center depth.

I wouldn't be surprised if neither ghost nor TK were here next year.
- FlyerFan16

wtf

cant wait for the draft and see what franchise player the devils and rangers select

why are you giving up on Ghost so quickly after a down year? The guy is one season removed from having 65 points in 78 games, at age 24 no less! One down season and we're trading him? It's not that I don't want RNH or don't think the trade is fair or not, but guys like Ghost don't grow on trees. The guy is an absolute offensive threat from the blue line, can QB any PP unit you want, skates well, makes crisp passes, and is on a cap friendly deal for years. With a new coach that predicates his system on breakouts, and speed through the neutral zone, I am anxious to see what Ghost can bring after this year. Ghost, Konecny, and Sanheim head my list of players I am anxious to see in this system, and also Patrick, but just in a general sense
- sjk540

First off Ghost is. 26 not 24. I agree he is a PP specialist. But he ranked #25 in PP points by defenseman last year. That is nothing special at all. Worst off he is a liability on the defensive end. I’m not saying give up on him. I’m saying that his value to the rest of the league is overplayed by most Flyer fans.

First off Ghost is. 26 not 24. I agree he is a PP specialist. But he ranked #25 in PP points by defenseman last year. That is nothing special at all. Worst off he is a liability on the defensive end. I’m not saying give up on him. I’m saying that his value to the rest of the league is overplayed by most Flyer fans.
- Djapana

What was his PP point ranking by a dman the year before that?

Trading Ghost for RNH isn't really giving up on Ghost. It's trading from a position of depth to address an area lacking depth. I don't know if Edm wants Ghost but it's a move I'd be more than fine with. Our PK has been killing us for years and RNH would really help us there in addition to giving us strong center depth.
- hereticpride

The Flyers C depth is fine. If they insist on playing G at wing for the short term, then that creates a hole in the lineup. But not for long, because Frost, Patrick, Rubstov, and maybe O'Brien will be stepping up sooner than later.

Meanwhile, there is literally nothing high-end behind Myers on the depth chart. Morin Hogberg, Ginning and Friedman are likely depth D, if they even make it. Zamula's a wild card. And we still have no idea whether Sanheim and Myers can continue to improve linearly, or if Prov can bounce back significantly from this past season.

D's every bit a question mark as F moving forward. The only thing I feel comfortable with is Hart, and even that's not 100%.

The Flyers C depth is fine. If they insist on playing G at wing for the short term, then that creates a hole in the lineup. But not for long, because Frost, Patrick, Rubstov, and maybe O'Brien will be stepping up sooner than later.

Meanwhile, there is literally nothing high-end behind Myers on the depth chart. Morin Hogberg, Ginning and Friedman are likely depth D, if they even make it. Zamula's a wild card. And we still have no idea whether Sanheim and Myers can continue to improve linearly, or if Prov can bounce back significantly from this past season.

D's every bit a question mark as F moving forward. The only thing I feel comfortable with is Hart, and even that's not 100%.
- Tomahawk

Kind of talking in circles here. Re-read what you say we have on D and then what we have at center. Beyond Patrick(who has struggled) we have no one who has played a lick of NHL hockey. If you're still trying to win in the window of G and Jake's prime that is inexcusable.

Kind of talking in circles here. Re-read what you say we have on D and then what we have at center. Beyond Patrick(who has struggled) we have no one who has played a lick of NHL hockey. If you're still trying to win in the window of G and Jake's prime that is inexcusable.
- hereticpride

RNH does not make them any more serious Cup contenders that they are right now, tho. He's kind of a sub-average 2C.

First off Ghost is. 26 not 24. I agree he is a PP specialist. But he ranked #25 in PP points by defenseman last year. That is nothing special at all. Worst off he is a liability on the defensive end. I’m not saying give up on him. I’m saying that his value to the rest of the league is overplayed by most Flyer fans.
- Djapana

If you read what i wrote I said he was one season removed from his 65 point campaign, at which point he was 24.

which player would you rather have:

2017-18 - Age 24
Player A: 78 games, 13 goals, 52 assists, 65 points, +10
Career Corsi of 52.0
Cap Hit - 4.5 mil

2017-18 Age 24
Player B: 82 games, 24 goals, 24 assists, 48 points, +10
Career Corsi of 48.6
Cap Hit - 6 million

You already know who is who, but Ghost is a defensemen, who are harder to come by and are more valuable. Again, I wouldn't mind RNH, but not for Ghost, or for any other players on his level for that matter.

RNH does not make them any more serious Cup contenders that they are right now, tho. He's kind of a sub-average 2C.
- Tomahawk

Exactly, so why give up Ghost to stay status quo? Keep Ghost, add other players, keep the young kids going, and once Hart comes into his own we should be contenders. Of course, the contender part all hinges on the moves Fletcher makes this offseason. This offseason will be really telling on the direction we're going.

Trading Ghost for RNH isn't really giving up on Ghost. It's trading from a position of depth to address an area lacking depth. I don't know if Edm wants Ghost but it's a move I'd be more than fine with. Our PK has been killing us for years and RNH would really help us there in addition to giving us strong center depth.
- hereticpride

I think the very idea that the Flyers have depth on defense to trade with is a colossal blunder of an idea.

The Flyers C depth is fine. If they insist on playing G at wing for the short term, then that creates a hole in the lineup. But not for long, because Frost, Patrick, Rubstov, and maybe O'Brien will be stepping up sooner than later.

Meanwhile, there is literally nothing high-end behind Myers on the depth chart. Morin Hogberg, Ginning and Friedman are likely depth D, if they even make it. Zamula's a wild card. And we still have no idea whether Sanheim and Myers can continue to improve linearly, or if Prov can bounce back significantly from this past season.

D's every bit a question mark as F moving forward. The only thing I feel comfortable with is Hart, and even that's not 100%.
- Tomahawk

That's where were at.

I think the very idea that the Flyers have depth on defense to trade with is a colossal blunder of an idea.
- MJL

Compared to C they absolutely have depth. Which is what I said.

RNH does not make them any more serious Cup contenders that they are right now, tho. He's kind of a sub-average 2C.
- Tomahawk

RNH had a very nice year last season. 28 G. 69 points. Only 30 centers in the whole league scored more. He out scored centers like Kopitar, Johansson and Barzal. I don’t think that makes him a “sub average 2C”. He would fit right behind Coots with his 76 points and would definitely improve the team.