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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 13 @ 7:25 PM ET
I highly doubt most players practice with their teams in a contract dispute.

You make up a lot of poop so I really don’t take your word for it.

It wouldn’t be wise to practice with the team you are in a negotiation with. At all

- Santo_44


Ristolainen. I make up poop. Okay. You eat poop. Neither have proof so I guess we're even.
Aerial Screw
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leonardo's notebook
Joined: 05.13.2019

May 13 @ 7:26 PM ET
I highly doubt most players practice with their teams in a contract dispute.

You make up a lot of poop so I really don’t take your word for it.

It wouldn’t be wise to practice with the team you are in a negotiation with. At all

- Santo_44

The problem is that Willie practiced with kids, but told the reporters he was in elite shape - and everyone believed him.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 13 @ 7:30 PM ET
The problem is that Willie practiced with kids, but told the reporters he was in elite shape - and everyone believed him.
- Aerial Screw


Exactly. Of course it's bad for a negotiation if your WN. They would have seen right away how useless he was.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 13 @ 7:35 PM ET
Why should Willie have watched Leaf games in the middle of the night from Sweden? I bet every fan who is all upset about that, when they're not at work they call in to get updates all day.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 13 @ 7:35 PM ET
Exactly. Of course it's bad for a negotiation if your WN. They would have seen right away how useless he was.
- aminnes


Practices hard.
Stays as near to game shape as possible
Catches an edge during a full speed drill.
Blow out knee.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 13 @ 7:40 PM ET
Ristolainen. I make up poop. Okay. You eat poop. Neither have proof so I guess we're even.
- aminnes

Dude, you just said other guys stay with the team and practice.

I called you out and now you say you have no proof. You’ve been called out a couple times so just stop making poop up.
Aerial Screw
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leonardo's notebook
Joined: 05.13.2019

May 13 @ 7:46 PM ET
Why should Willie have watched Leaf games in the middle of the night from Sweden? I bet every fan who is all upset about that, when they're not at work they call in to get updates all day.
- Zezel

The problem is; Willie actually said he only watched a few Leafs game during those months - to the best of my knowledge they can DVR the games in Sweden. That is, if they're interested
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 13 @ 7:54 PM ET
The problem is; Willie actually said he only watched a few Leafs game during those months - to the best of my knowledge they can DVR the games in Sweden. That is, if they're interested
- Aerial Screw

How is that a problem? He's not a fanboy. Why does he need to watch games that already happened, who cares? That's such an overwrought tweaker fan narrative.
Aerial Screw
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leonardo's notebook
Joined: 05.13.2019

May 13 @ 8:04 PM ET
How is that a problem? He's not a fanboy. Why does he need to watch games that already happened, who cares? That's such an overwrought tweaker fan narrative.
- Zezel

Should be obvious - a 19 y/o elite player from Sweden playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs. If that's not interesting enough to invest 10 hours a week watching, he's for sure a total jerk!
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 13 @ 8:12 PM ET
That begs the question though. Why was he even in Sweden? Other guys stay with the team and practise, you know, stay in shape. Why didn't he do that. He said he wanted a long term contract, did he mean with the Leafs our just in general?
- aminnes


Because 1- very, very few players ever stay with the team during said negotiations, and 2- he lives in Sweden. He can workout with teams/at places he knows.
Aerial Screw
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leonardo's notebook
Joined: 05.13.2019

May 13 @ 8:15 PM ET
Because 1- very, very few players ever stay with the team during said negotiations, and 2- he lives in Sweden. He can workout with teams/at places he knows.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Barb34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.29.2017

May 13 @ 8:21 PM ET
Why should Willie have watched Leaf games in the middle of the night from Sweden? I bet every fan who is all upset about that, when they're not at work they call in to get updates all day.
- Zezel


Even I DVR games and watch them at a different time....isn't it a bit weird that he wouldn't want to do the same?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 13 @ 8:34 PM ET
Even I DVR games and watch them at a different time....isn't it a bit weird that he wouldn't want to do the same?
- Barb34


We are presuming he didn't watch the games.

He did.

It is a negotiating tactic to show disinterest.
Aerial Screw
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leonardo's notebook
Joined: 05.13.2019

May 13 @ 8:40 PM ET
We are presuming he didn't watch the games.

He did.

It is a negotiating tactic to show disinterest.

- Aetherial

Guess you didn't watch that presser - all you have to do is watch his face and listen to his voice when he answer that Q - 100% sure he did not!
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 13 @ 8:58 PM ET
Even I DVR games and watch them at a different time....isn't it a bit weird that he wouldn't want to do the same?
- Barb34

You're a fan though, he works there.
Barb34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.29.2017

May 13 @ 9:07 PM ET
You're a fan though, he works there.
- Zezel


True dat!

I guess if I was negotiating and not playing, I could see being a little pissed and pretending not to give a fack, especially at 20.
Aerial Screw
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leonardo's notebook
Joined: 05.13.2019

May 13 @ 9:07 PM ET
You're a fan though, he works there.
- Zezel

At the time when he didn't bother to watch the Leafs games, I'd say he wasn't working there - nor was he a fan...
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 13 @ 9:16 PM ET
Schwartz is playing fantastic hockey.

Screwed me during the regular season in my fantasy league and all he does is score in the playoffs. Bastard!
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 13 @ 9:19 PM ET
At the time when he didn't bother to watch the Leafs games, I'd say he wasn't working there - nor was he a fan...
- Aerial Screw


A lot of players don't watch games in their free time. Hell, I'd even go as far to say that most don't.

They eat, sleep, and love hockey. They need a break from it.
Aerial Screw
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leonardo's notebook
Joined: 05.13.2019

May 13 @ 9:25 PM ET
A lot of players don't watch games in their free time. Hell, I'd even go as far to say that most don't.

They eat, sleep, and love hockey. They need a break from it.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Thank god no other players in Willie's situation would view that period of time as 'free time'...
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
You're a fan though, he works there.
- Zezel


And it's part of his job.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 13 @ 9:35 PM ET
And it's part of his job.
- JohnFergusonJr

He's not required to watch games on tv. He's not a video coach.
Aerial Screw
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leonardo's notebook
Joined: 05.13.2019

May 13 @ 9:37 PM ET
He's not required to watch games on tv. He's not a video coach.
- Zezel

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 13 @ 9:39 PM ET
A lot of players don't watch games in their free time. Hell, I'd even go as far to say that most don't.

They eat, sleep, and love hockey. They need a break from it.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Babcock specifically has said he advises players to do other stuff away from the rink. As if they need to be watching broadcasts when they're not playing.
Aerial Screw
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leonardo's notebook
Joined: 05.13.2019

May 13 @ 9:46 PM ET
Babcock specifically has said he advises players to do other stuff away from the rink. As if they need to be watching broadcasts when they're not playing.
- Zezel

I'm sure he specifically talked about Willie's 6 months 'holiday'
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