I agree what you're saying but I see it more in terms of NA hockey than Canada vs everyone else. USA hockey is a direct result of Canadian influence. Euro hockey is a different beast.

8 out of the top 10 scorers this season were from NA (3 in top 5). Only 3 players in the top 15 were from outside NA. I'm ok with that.
- bloatedmosquito

I don't really consider it like that seeing we are in competition with the US I don't lump us in under the same category . They are one of the nations that have pumped more money into their program and are maybe top 3 in the world.

I see at least 5 top picks going to the US this year . Byram (Can ) would be the only on in my top 10 but I know that Cozens and Dach could be there too .

I think anyone taking Dach and Cozens in their top 10 are making big mistakes but that is only my opinion not the general consensus .

I don't really consider it like that seeing we are in competition with the US I don't lump us in under the same category . They are one of the nations that have pumped more money into their program and are maybe top 3 in the world.

I see at least 5 top picks going to the US this year . Byram (Can ) would be the only on in my top 10 but I know that Cozens and Dach could be there too .

I think anyone taking Dach and Cozens in their top 10 are making big mistakes but that is only my opinion not the general consensus .
- VANTEL

Dach and Cozens are unlikely to bust. Can’t say the same for the Russian or your Swedish D 🤢🤮

Dach and Cozens are unlikely to bust. Can’t say the same for the Russian or your Swedish D 🤢🤮
- CanuckDon

Just accept Broberg/Soderstrom now like I have and save yourself the disappointment on draft day


wait until they both get a personal tour of the city by the Sedins a week before the draft.

Dach and Cozens are unlikely to bust. Can’t say the same for the Russian or your Swedish D 🤢🤮
- CanuckDon

Cozens will bust. That’s a mother(frank)ing DCguaranTee.

Just accept Broberg/Soderstrom now like I have and save yourself the disappointment on draft day


wait until they both get a personal tour of the city by the Sedins a week before the draft.
- Nucker101

Beta.

Beta.
- DrChristianTroy

Sir, I prefer pillow-biter

Sir, I prefer pillow-biter
- Nucker101

Dach and Cozens are unlikely to bust. Can’t say the same for the Russian or your Swedish D 🤢🤮
- CanuckDon

Both are better than the two Canadians. You just keep away from the avatar bets this year or you will be sporting this next year

Both are better than the two Canadians. You just keep away from the avatar bets this year or you will be sporting this next year



- VANTEL

Dare ya...

Lets go Giants game 7

Just accept Broberg/Soderstrom now like I have and save yourself the disappointment on draft day


wait until they both get a personal tour of the city by the Sedins a week before the draft.
- Nucker101

Haha the tour wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

Cozens will bust. That’s a mother(frank)ing DCguaranTee.
- DrChristianTroy

No Chance. I don’t like Cozens but he has a high floor

No Chance. I don’t like Cozens but he has a high floor
- CanuckDon

Picking high floor guys in the top 10 = bust potential (same boat as Soderstrom). IMO his ceiling is much lower than most evaluators think. So much about his skillset reminds me of Steve Bernier

None of Cozens, Podkolzin, Caufield, Soderstrom, Broberg are in my top 15.

Picking high floor guys in the top 10 = bust potential (same boat as Soderstrom). IMO his ceiling is much lower than most evaluators think. So much about his skillset reminds me of Steve Bernier

None of Cozens, Podkolzin, Caufield, Soderstrom, Broberg are in my top 15.
- DrChristianTroy

I don’t like him either but I’d prefer him to everyone else in your list! Unlike Bernier he can fly.

Both are better than the two Canadians. You just keep away from the avatar bets this year or you will be sporting this next year



- VANTEL

i will take that bet!

I agree what you're saying but I see it more in terms of NA hockey than Canada vs everyone else. USA hockey is a direct result of Canadian influence. Euro hockey is a different beast.

8 out of the top 10 scorers this season were from NA (3 in top 5). Only 3 players in the top 15 were from outside NA. I'm ok with that.
- bloatedmosquito

Heart > Skill

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I am going over the last couple of years to make my evaluation not this summers tournaments.

Canada use to be the best nation at hockey and now may have slipped to 4-6 . The best players at the draft in the last few years are coming from other countries.

In past drafts Canada would usually have at least 5 of the top 10 in each draft , now we are around 3 .

Other countries are pumping more money into their Development while we are still operating the same way we did 15 years ago.

As a father who wants his 6 year old to play hockey, our country does very little to help make it affordable. My wife and I are lower middle class, and couldn't hope to afford the registration fee's, but won't qualify for any programs to assist with that.

As a father who wants his 6 year old to play hockey, our country does very little to help make it affordable. My wife and I are lower middle class, and couldn't hope to afford the registration fee's, but won't qualify for any programs to assist with that.
- Retinalz

That is a huge issue my friend . You need to have lots of doe now to put kids in hockey

That is a huge issue my friend . You need to have lots of doe now to put kids in hockey
- VANTEL

It is an estimated(from a 2012 survery) $3,000 per year for hockey. Gear, registration, tournaments, etc. Probably more now. Some places are less, some are more. One thing that i remember was a recent article, in which Wayne Gretzky was interviewed. He said that the way it is today, there is no way his parents could have afforded to put him in hockey. Imagine a world where there was no Wayne Gretzky, or other greats simply because their parents couldn't afford to put them in at a young age.

EDIT: Google hockey costs and you will find articles dating back to the mid 2000's about how the costs are keeping kids out of the sport. Imagine how much better hockey would be today if more kids could have played over the last 15 years. Imagine a draft where McDavid wasn't considered generational because of the talent available.

It is an estimated(from a 2012 survery) $3,000 per year for hockey. Gear, registration, tournaments, etc. Probably more now. Some places are less, some are more. One thing that i remember was a recent article, in which Wayne Gretzky was interviewed. He said that the way it is today, there is no way his parents could have afforded to put him in hockey. Imagine a world where there was no Wayne Gretzky, or other greats simply because their parents couldn't afford to put them in at a young age.

EDIT: Google hockey costs and you will find articles dating back to the mid 2000's about how the costs are keeping kids out of the sport. Imagine how much better hockey would be today if more kids could have played over the last 15 years. Imagine a draft where McDavid wasn't considered generational because of the talent available.
- Retinalz

This is why Baseball and Soccer are becoming more popular

This is why Baseball and Soccer are becoming more popular
- VANTEL

Football as well. My son plays flag right now(Tackle doesn't start until 10) and the registration is not very high, the gear is provided as well.

Football as well. My son plays flag right now(Tackle doesn't start until 10) and the registration is not very high, the gear is provided as well.
- Retinalz

Yeah I heard football was on the rise . It would be more popular if there wasn't the concussion issue . That frightens some of the parents.

It is an estimated(from a 2012 survery) $3,000 per year for hockey. Gear, registration, tournaments, etc. Probably more now. Some places are less, some are more. One thing that i remember was a recent article, in which Wayne Gretzky was interviewed. He said that the way it is today, there is no way his parents could have afforded to put him in hockey. Imagine a world where there was no Wayne Gretzky, or other greats simply because their parents couldn't afford to put them in at a young age.

EDIT: Google hockey costs and you will find articles dating back to the mid 2000's about how the costs are keeping kids out of the sport. Imagine how much better hockey would be today if more kids could have played over the last 15 years. Imagine a draft where McDavid wasn't considered generational because of the talent available.
- Retinalz

Hahahahaha 3000 per year lol. How about 1 to 2 k per weekend with travel hotels gas food gear oh man. Im willing to guess roughly 10k to 15 k per year easy

This is why Baseball and Soccer are becoming more popular
- VANTEL

You forgot "watching paint dry"

Is it me or would you take Kappo Kakko over hughes just because his name is wayyyyy cooler and they are super close talent wise