TheSabresTaco
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What are you seeing in nylander aside from hope?
Lacks effort
Often injured
Not scoring at regularly in the ahl
Not a " away from the puck" guy
8th over 3 years ago already, still a question mark
What am I missing? Aside from hope ? - Boss34
Being inconsistent, which he is, does not mean he lacks effort, which he doesn't.
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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He had 26 pts in his final 33 games in the AHL. I would say he scored pretty regularly down there after a slow start based on those stats.
He's been injured yes. That also effects development.
I am not saying that if the right trade came along I wouldn't ship him off, but I can see him turning into a solid middle 6 guy that can play PP. Nothing more than that. - RhinoFan
Fair enough
I'm just not too impressed with him , I was hoping he was following in his Brothers footsteps.
Will nylander did not have a good year either
Plus he was playing contract games with management
Bad footsteps that Alex isnt close to filling
Pretty sure Alex is a goner |
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TheSabresTaco
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How long until we our version of the Montreal "we can't have a coach taht doesn't speak french" bit??
Buffalo can't have a coach who doesn't speak Swedish!! Look at our Swedish team! - JVince11
What is this..Ralph Krueger is Canadian-German. |
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JVince11
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If Montour is decently hurt... he probably won't miss the season but just the uncertainty will sit there.
Bogo and Pilut are out for 2 months.
McCabe is rather known to be often injured.
That leaves you with Dahlin, Risto, Scandella, Hunwick, Nelson, and Borgen...
I really can't see them trading Risto unless it is a PERFECT situation deal. It won't be a "we just need to move him and get the best we can" type deal. It would have to be 'we can only get this phenomenal asset if we include Risto" type deal.
To me... if TBL really did like him.. now with Stevie gone that idea could be dead but a deal for Point... I could see Risto included. |
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Feds91Stammer
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What is this..Ralph Krueger is Canadian-German. - TheSabresTaco
Rikard Grönborg |
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JVince11
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What is this..Ralph Krueger is Canadian-German. - TheSabresTaco
He is but he was the Swedish team coach for what is 14 years.... I'm sure he has to speak the language a good amount. |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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I also realize people don't know how to look at AHL stats. DET fans were calling Mantha a bust a few years ago and now he is their best F outside of Larkin. - Feds91Stammer
Please enlighten me on how to look at ahl stats
Are they different then nhl stats
Nylander - 30 goals in 165 games
Oloffson - 30 goals in 66 games
Am I missing something?
8th overall pick averaging 10 goals a year in a league a step below the nhl over 3 years
Let me know what I'm missing |
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burner087
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Location: Orlando, FL Joined: 01.18.2008
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Yup you had to deal with I4, the outlet mall traffic and all of that on top of it
I live east of the city so the only time I venture that way is when we go to Disney or Universal - Stripes77
I rarely venture too far from my house anymore. The traffic and constant constructions is so freaking annoying here. |
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Feds91Stammer
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If Montour is decently hurt... he probably won't miss the season but just the uncertainty will sit there.
Bogo and Pilut are out for 2 months.
McCabe is rather known to be often injured.
That leaves you with Dahlin, Risto, Scandella, Hunwick, Nelson, and Borgen...
I really can't see them trading Risto unless it is a PERFECT situation deal. It won't be a "we just need to move him and get the best we can" type deal. It would have to be 'we can only get this phenomenal asset if we include Risto" type deal.
To me... if TBL really did like him.. now with Stevie gone that idea could be dead but a deal for Point... I could see Risto included. - JVince11
BUF doesn't have the assets to acquire Point imo.
Maybe Risto for a Palat + pick type deal. |
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Stripes77
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It could...but I would say it settles out of court and we don't hear about it again. Would restaurants have insurance that cover cases like this? - Whatnot78
Depends on the laws of the state that they're in
When a crime has been committed they might not cover it |
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Boss34
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Being inconsistent, which he is, does not mean he lacks effort, which he doesn't. - TheSabresTaco
Right, inconsistent could definitely mean lack of effort in the games where he isnt playing well.
He also lacks effort, as reported by many posters who have been to the ahl games.
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TheSabresTaco
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Rikard Grönborg - Feds91Stammer
He's our 2019-2020 Raw Deal Candidate of the Year |
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Stripes77
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BUF doesn't have the assets to acquire Point imo.
Maybe Risto for a Palat + pick type deal. - Feds91Stammer
Not unless they want to include Mitts or Dahlin you are correct
I don't see Tampa as a good trading partner |
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Feds91Stammer
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Please enlighten me on how to look at ahl stats
Are they different then nhl stats
Nylander - 30 goals in 165 games
Oloffson - 30 goals in 66 games
Am I missing something?
8th overall pick averaging 10 goals a year in a league a step below the nhl over 3 years
Let me know what I'm missing - Boss34
Well I am sure you are certain of their AHL usage and I am sure you are comparing players at 2 vastly different stages of their development curve right? |
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RhinoFan
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Location: Visionville Joined: 10.12.2015
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I also realize people don't know how to look at AHL stats. DET fans were calling Mantha a bust a few years ago and now he is their best F outside of Larkin. - Feds91Stammer
It's difficult. I've seen discussions about projections based on AHL production, but I still don't understand it by any means.
There were rumors at one point that Mantha was on the Sabres radar. You guys said no. Forget what garbage we were shipping you. Good move... |
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gerbe75pts
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Please enlighten me on how to look at ahl stats
Are they different then nhl stats
Nylander - 30 goals in 165 games
Oloffson - 30 goals in 66 games
Am I missing something?
8th overall pick averaging 10 goals a year in a league a step below the nhl over 3 years
Let me know what I'm missing - Boss34
Nylanders game is more made for the nhl he’s just one of those players that play better at a higher level
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Feds91Stammer
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Not unless they want to include Mitts or Dahlin you are correct
I don't see Tampa as a good trading partner - Stripes77
Dahlin and Risto for Point and Foote? |
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TheSabresTaco
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Right, inconsistent could definitely mean lack of effort in the games where he isnt playing well.
He also lacks effort, as reported by many posters who have been to the ahl games. - Boss34
His most recent play, which is what actually matters, did not lack effort. It's part of the reason he was called up. As Taylor and Botterill said his call-up was deserved. |
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TheSabresTaco
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Dahlin and Risto for Point and Foote? - Feds91Stammer
hard no |
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Feds91Stammer
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It's difficult. I've seen discussions about projections based on AHL production, but I still don't understand it by any means.
There were rumors at one point that Mantha was on the Sabres radar. You guys said no. Forget what garbage we were shipping you. Good move... - RhinoFan
I think the number one misconception is that these guys are getting tons of ice time. People are already considering Zadina a bust even though he was an 18 year old getting 3rd line ice time. |
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TheSabresTaco
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I think the number one misconception is that these guys are getting tons of ice time. People are already considering Zadina a bust even though he was an 18 year old getting 3rd line ice time. - Feds91Stammer
That's how hbuzz works bruh |
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Boss34
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He's our 2019-2020 Raw Deal Candidate of the Year - TheSabresTaco
Wrong |
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JVince11
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Not unless they want to include Mitts or Dahlin you are correct
I don't see Tampa as a good trading partner - Stripes77
Mitts and Risto for Point and 1 year of Callahan. Probably a pick or something for extra sizzle.
I'd do it... Point and Eichel is 10x better IMO than Mitts and Eichel look to be at this point in time. |
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jcragcrumple
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Dahlin and Risto for Point and Foote? - Feds91Stammer
God no |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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God no - jcragcrumple
Just was curious. I know everyone is high on Dahlin just didn't know how high. |
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