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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Impressions of, and questions concerning--D, Brandon Montour
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 14 @ 11:28 AM ET
What are you seeing in nylander aside from hope?

Lacks effort
Often injured
Not scoring at regularly in the ahl
Not a " away from the puck" guy
8th over 3 years ago already, still a question mark


What am I missing? Aside from hope ?

- Boss34


Being inconsistent, which he is, does not mean he lacks effort, which he doesn't.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 14 @ 11:29 AM ET
He had 26 pts in his final 33 games in the AHL. I would say he scored pretty regularly down there after a slow start based on those stats.

He's been injured yes. That also effects development.

I am not saying that if the right trade came along I wouldn't ship him off, but I can see him turning into a solid middle 6 guy that can play PP. Nothing more than that.

- RhinoFan



Fair enough

I'm just not too impressed with him , I was hoping he was following in his Brothers footsteps.

Will nylander did not have a good year either
Plus he was playing contract games with management
Bad footsteps that Alex isnt close to filling

Pretty sure Alex is a goner
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 14 @ 11:31 AM ET
How long until we our version of the Montreal "we can't have a coach taht doesn't speak french" bit??

Buffalo can't have a coach who doesn't speak Swedish!! Look at our Swedish team!

- JVince11


What is this..Ralph Krueger is Canadian-German.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 14 @ 11:32 AM ET
If Montour is decently hurt... he probably won't miss the season but just the uncertainty will sit there.

Bogo and Pilut are out for 2 months.

McCabe is rather known to be often injured.

That leaves you with Dahlin, Risto, Scandella, Hunwick, Nelson, and Borgen...

I really can't see them trading Risto unless it is a PERFECT situation deal. It won't be a "we just need to move him and get the best we can" type deal. It would have to be 'we can only get this phenomenal asset if we include Risto" type deal.

To me... if TBL really did like him.. now with Stevie gone that idea could be dead but a deal for Point... I could see Risto included.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 14 @ 11:33 AM ET
What is this..Ralph Krueger is Canadian-German.
- TheSabresTaco

Rikard Grönborg
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 14 @ 11:33 AM ET
What is this..Ralph Krueger is Canadian-German.
- TheSabresTaco


He is but he was the Swedish team coach for what is 14 years.... I'm sure he has to speak the language a good amount.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 14 @ 11:33 AM ET
I also realize people don't know how to look at AHL stats. DET fans were calling Mantha a bust a few years ago and now he is their best F outside of Larkin.
- Feds91Stammer



Please enlighten me on how to look at ahl stats

Are they different then nhl stats
Nylander - 30 goals in 165 games
Oloffson - 30 goals in 66 games

Am I missing something?

8th overall pick averaging 10 goals a year in a league a step below the nhl over 3 years

Let me know what I'm missing
burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 14 @ 11:34 AM ET
Yup you had to deal with I4, the outlet mall traffic and all of that on top of it

I live east of the city so the only time I venture that way is when we go to Disney or Universal

- Stripes77


I rarely venture too far from my house anymore. The traffic and constant constructions is so freaking annoying here.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 14 @ 11:34 AM ET
If Montour is decently hurt... he probably won't miss the season but just the uncertainty will sit there.

Bogo and Pilut are out for 2 months.

McCabe is rather known to be often injured.

That leaves you with Dahlin, Risto, Scandella, Hunwick, Nelson, and Borgen...

I really can't see them trading Risto unless it is a PERFECT situation deal. It won't be a "we just need to move him and get the best we can" type deal. It would have to be 'we can only get this phenomenal asset if we include Risto" type deal.

To me... if TBL really did like him.. now with Stevie gone that idea could be dead but a deal for Point... I could see Risto included.

- JVince11

BUF doesn't have the assets to acquire Point imo.

Maybe Risto for a Palat + pick type deal.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 14 @ 11:34 AM ET
It could...but I would say it settles out of court and we don't hear about it again. Would restaurants have insurance that cover cases like this?
- Whatnot78



Depends on the laws of the state that they're in

When a crime has been committed they might not cover it
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 14 @ 11:35 AM ET
Being inconsistent, which he is, does not mean he lacks effort, which he doesn't.
- TheSabresTaco


Right, inconsistent could definitely mean lack of effort in the games where he isnt playing well.

He also lacks effort, as reported by many posters who have been to the ahl games.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
Rikard Grönborg
- Feds91Stammer


He's our 2019-2020 Raw Deal Candidate of the Year
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
BUF doesn't have the assets to acquire Point imo.

Maybe Risto for a Palat + pick type deal.

- Feds91Stammer



Not unless they want to include Mitts or Dahlin you are correct

I don't see Tampa as a good trading partner
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
Please enlighten me on how to look at ahl stats

Are they different then nhl stats
Nylander - 30 goals in 165 games
Oloffson - 30 goals in 66 games

Am I missing something?

8th overall pick averaging 10 goals a year in a league a step below the nhl over 3 years

Let me know what I'm missing

- Boss34

Well I am sure you are certain of their AHL usage and I am sure you are comparing players at 2 vastly different stages of their development curve right?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
I also realize people don't know how to look at AHL stats. DET fans were calling Mantha a bust a few years ago and now he is their best F outside of Larkin.
- Feds91Stammer


It's difficult. I've seen discussions about projections based on AHL production, but I still don't understand it by any means.

There were rumors at one point that Mantha was on the Sabres radar. You guys said no. Forget what garbage we were shipping you. Good move...
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
Please enlighten me on how to look at ahl stats

Are they different then nhl stats
Nylander - 30 goals in 165 games
Oloffson - 30 goals in 66 games

Am I missing something?

8th overall pick averaging 10 goals a year in a league a step below the nhl over 3 years

Let me know what I'm missing

- Boss34


Nylanders game is more made for the nhl he’s just one of those players that play better at a higher level
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 14 @ 11:37 AM ET
Not unless they want to include Mitts or Dahlin you are correct

I don't see Tampa as a good trading partner

- Stripes77

Dahlin and Risto for Point and Foote?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 14 @ 11:37 AM ET
Right, inconsistent could definitely mean lack of effort in the games where he isnt playing well.

He also lacks effort, as reported by many posters who have been to the ahl games.

- Boss34


His most recent play, which is what actually matters, did not lack effort. It's part of the reason he was called up. As Taylor and Botterill said his call-up was deserved.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 14 @ 11:37 AM ET
Dahlin and Risto for Point and Foote?
- Feds91Stammer


hard no
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 14 @ 11:38 AM ET
It's difficult. I've seen discussions about projections based on AHL production, but I still don't understand it by any means.

There were rumors at one point that Mantha was on the Sabres radar. You guys said no. Forget what garbage we were shipping you. Good move...

- RhinoFan

I think the number one misconception is that these guys are getting tons of ice time. People are already considering Zadina a bust even though he was an 18 year old getting 3rd line ice time.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 14 @ 11:38 AM ET
I think the number one misconception is that these guys are getting tons of ice time. People are already considering Zadina a bust even though he was an 18 year old getting 3rd line ice time.
- Feds91Stammer


That's how hbuzz works bruh
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 14 @ 11:38 AM ET
He's our 2019-2020 Raw Deal Candidate of the Year
- TheSabresTaco


Wrong
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 14 @ 11:39 AM ET
Not unless they want to include Mitts or Dahlin you are correct

I don't see Tampa as a good trading partner

- Stripes77



Mitts and Risto for Point and 1 year of Callahan. Probably a pick or something for extra sizzle.


I'd do it... Point and Eichel is 10x better IMO than Mitts and Eichel look to be at this point in time.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 14 @ 11:39 AM ET
Dahlin and Risto for Point and Foote?
- Feds91Stammer


God no
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 14 @ 11:40 AM ET
God no
- jcragcrumple

Just was curious. I know everyone is high on Dahlin just didn't know how high.
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