Kadri and Brown for Girgensons and Ristolainen.
- PatC80

Hmmmm
Im just apprehensive about moving out that quality 3rd line center.
Kadri in the 3 spot is great....if he werent so stupid every Boston series.

No doubt. The struggle is real in building a championship team.
- aminnes

Specially for toronto teams.

I can't complain, it's an amazing time for the Leafs.
- Zezel

It really is amazing isn’t it? When we won the Matthews lottery I knew good things would happen but not this quickly.

The fact that you had to explain what you meant pretty much sums it up. Pathetic isn’t it?
- shack67

You should have been here earlier, when I said Nylander and Brown both played better when playing with good players. Some thought I was saying that Nylander is of equal value to Connor Brown.

You should have been here earlier, when I said Nylander and Brown both played better when playing with good players. Some thought I was saying that Nylander is of equal value to Connor Brown.
- PatC80

Kadri and Brown for Girgensons and Ristolainen.
- PatC80

If the Leafs do end up trading Kadri (which I hope they don't), I sure as poop hope we get someone a lot better than Ristolainen.

MacKinnon is a C, Nylander is predominantly a winger. MacKinnon didn't tear it up until his 5th season. How about we give Nylander a chance?
- PatC80

Nylanders offense has been rendered pointless on the Leafs. They clearly have so much scoring without him. He costs cap space, like anyone else. But they can't win when it matters. In fact they were 500 from christmas on. Stop making it about feeling for Nylander. I care about the Leafs, Nylander is an unnecessary expenditure and as long as their cap is tight, they will be unable to augment the true superstars on the team with a proper defence.

The chase scene through the forest in sherlock holmes 2 is very shot and put together.
- Fakepartofme

Love those movies. The 3rd will be out in a year or so.

Hmmmm
Im just apprehensive about moving out that quality 3rd line center.
Kadri in the 3 spot is great....if he werent so stupid every Boston series.
- Fakepartofme

Girgensons is also a C, and is bigger than Kadri.

If the Leafs do end up trading Kadri (which I hope they don't), I sure as poop hope we get someone a lot better than Ristolainen.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I think Risto would be better on a good team.

You should have been here earlier, when I said Nylander and Brown both played better when playing with good players. Some thought I was saying that Nylander is of equal value to Connor Brown.
- PatC80

Nope. I pointed out you said Nylander couldn't produce because he played with Marleau and Brown - or less than top six players - while simultaneously saying Brown only could produce with Matthews. You contradicted yourself and don't want to admit it.

Hate to admit it but Rask is great. Trying to jinx him.

Nope. I pointed out you said Nylander couldn't produce because he played with Marleau and Brown - or less than top six players - while simultaneously saying Brown only could produce with Matthews. You contradicted yourself and don't want to admit it.
- aminnes

Except for the part where I didn't say that at all. I didn't compare Nylander to Brown

There’s the problem. He didn’t say anything close to that but that’s what you made a choice to see.
- shack67

WTF

He made a SPECIFIC comparison between the situations using Mackinnon as a claer example of what could happen if we "give up" on Nylander too early.

Furthermore, you are the guy who just suggested criticizing Matthews was irrational hate.

For (frank) sakes, do better.

Exactly right?
I said imagine if Colorado traded MacKinnon after his 2nd season when he only put up 38 points. Somehow, its become Nylander = MacKinnon
- PatC80

You too?

What the (frank) is wrong with you.

I asked if you thought Nylander would really be Mackinnon.

That is a perfectly valid question in retort to your original comparison. If anything YOU are the one comparing the two more closely than I am. I happen to think they are nothing alike.

YOU used the Mackinnon example of what could happen. You opened up the topic.

WTF

He made a SPECIFIC comparison between the situations using Mackinnon as a claer example of what could happen if we "give up" on Nylander too early.

Furthermore, you are the guy who just suggested criticizing Matthews was irrational hate.

For (frank) sakes, do better.
- Aetherial

I used MacKinnon as an example because he didn't break out until his 5th season. I'm not saying Nylander is going to be MacKinnon or better, I'm saying give him a chance.

You too?

What the (frank) is wrong with you.

I asked if you thought Nylander would really be Mackinnon.

That is a perfectly valid question in retort to your original comparison. If anything YOU are the one comparing the two more closely than I am. I happen to think they are nothing alike.

YOU used the Mackinnon example of what could happen. You opened up the topic.
- Aetherial

Haha. I answered your question earlier though.
I'm not comparing them at all.

I used MacKinnon as an example because he didn't break out until his 5th season. I'm not saying Nylander is going to be MacKinnon or better, I'm saying give him a chance.
- PatC80

I don't know how I can be more clear.

Your intent was to use Mackinnon as an example of what could happen. Nobody missed your meaning.

I asked if you thought Nylander would become a MacKinnon... because if he won't, and I seriously doubt he will, then the consequence is not nearly as dire as if Colorado traded Mackinnon.

Again, I was not the first to throw out that name, so don't blame me for essentially questioning the validity of the comparison in situations.

Haha. I answered your question earlier though.
I'm not comparing them at all.
- PatC80

So you use Mackinnon as an argument to make your point, then you and angry man jump on me for suggesting he is no Mackinnon.

So you use Mackinnon as an argument to make your point, then you and angry man jump on me for suggesting he is no Mackinnon.


- Aetherial

No, not exactly. I'm not jumping on you or anyone for that matter.
I only brought up MacKinnon because he didn't really break out until his 5th season. I think Nylander has potential to be a consistent 70-80 point guy. MacKinnon is a 90-100 point guy. Perhaps I should have worded it differently. Leafs should do what Colorado did and be patient with Nylander.

Mcbackup starts game 3.
Remember when he was done and wasnt gonna repeat last year.

Canes are done

No, not exactly. I'm not jumping on you or anyone for that matter.
I only brought up MacKinnon because he didn't really break out until his 5th season. I think Nylander has potential to be a consistent 70-80 point guy. MacKinnon is a 90-100 point guy. Perhaps I should have worded it differently. Leafs should do what Colorado did and be patient with Nylander.
- PatC80

He’s backtracking. He was accusing you of thinking Nylander would turn out to be as good as MacKinnon.
Anyone who read his retort to your post knows what he meant.

Except for the part where I didn't say that at all. I didn't compare Nylander to Brown
- PatC80

You did, but you didn't realize you did. I wouldn't think you would knowingly contradict yourself.

WTF

He made a SPECIFIC comparison between the situations using Mackinnon as a claer example of what could happen if we "give up" on Nylander too early.

Furthermore, you are the guy who just suggested criticizing Matthews was irrational hate.

For (frank) sakes, do better.
- Aetherial

Do not criticize. Follow only. The Borg shall rule.

So you use Mackinnon as an argument to make your point, then you and angry man jump on me for suggesting he is no Mackinnon.


- Aetherial

We all know he’s no MacKinnon. He didn’t say he was. That part was obvious to everyone but you.