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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 14 @ 11:11 PM ET
Going back in the thread a bit here. I's not that Sandin couldn't turn out really well even at 19-20, it is merely against the odds. I would love it if he could step right in and be awesome, I just wouldn't bet on it.
- aminnes


aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 14 @ 11:12 PM ET
You too?

What the (frank) is wrong with you.

I asked if you thought Nylander would really be Mackinnon.

That is a perfectly valid question in retort to your original comparison. If anything YOU are the one comparing the two more closely than I am. I happen to think they are nothing alike.

YOU used the Mackinnon example of what could happen. You opened up the topic.

- Aetherial


This is what they do man. All day. Defect, defect defect. They make statements and then try to turn them into you making twisting their words. They are fanboys. 50, 60, 100 years could go by but it's all good with the leafs whether they win a damn thing or not.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 14 @ 11:12 PM ET
Mcbackup starts game 3.
Remember when he was done and wasnt gonna repeat last year.

Canes are done

- Fakepartofme


His numbers weren't as good as they were last year.

He was better than Sparks though, but that's not saying much.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 14 @ 11:13 PM ET
This is what they do man. All day. Defect, defect defect. They make statements and then try to turn them into you making twisting their words. They are fanboys. 50, 60, 100 years could go by but it's all good with the leafs whether they win a damn thing or not.
- aminnes


daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 14 @ 11:13 PM ET
wow
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 14 @ 11:13 PM ET
I used MacKinnon as an example because he didn't break out until his 5th season. I'm not saying Nylander is going to be MacKinnon or better, I'm saying give him a chance.
- PatC80


MacKinnon started his first season at 18.

Nylander did not.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 14 @ 11:14 PM ET
I used MacKinnon as an example because he didn't break out until his 5th season. I'm not saying Nylander is going to be MacKinnon or better, I'm saying give him a chance.
- PatC80


Then why use Mac? Why not use someone like Nylander?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 14 @ 11:14 PM ET
This is what they do man. All day. Defect, defect defect. They make statements and then try to turn them into you making twisting their words. They are fanboys. 50, 60, 100 years could go by but it's all good with the leafs whether they win a damn thing or not.
- aminnes

Wait...what? I didn't compare them at all. All I said was imagine if Colorado traded MacKinnon after he only put up 38 points in his second season.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 14 @ 11:15 PM ET
Then why use Mac? Why not use someone like Nylander?
- aminnes

So I should have said what? Imagine if we traded Nylander after his 2nd season?
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 14 @ 11:16 PM ET
This is what they do man. All day. Defect, defect defect. They make statements and then try to turn them into you making twisting their words. They are fanboys. 50, 60, 100 years could go by but it's all good with the leafs whether they win a damn thing or not.
- aminnes

Defect? defect? defect?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 14 @ 11:16 PM ET
MacKinnon started his first season at 18.

Nylander did not.

- JohnFergusonJr

Thanks for your input UG.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 14 @ 11:19 PM ET
Wait...what? I didn't compare them at all. All I said was imagine if Colorado traded MacKinnon after he only put up 38 points in his second season.
- PatC80


They aren't comparable bro. They just aren't. It was a bad comparison is all. Simple as that.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 14 @ 11:21 PM ET
Thanks for your input UG.
- PatC80

That UG. Vast hockey knowledge right there.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 14 @ 11:23 PM ET
They aren't comparable bro. They just aren't. It was a bad comparison is all. Simple as that.
- aminnes

It wasn't an actual comparison though. It was more about being patient with Nylander. Perhaps I should have said the Leafs should be patient with Nylander just like Colorado was with MacKinnon.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 14 @ 11:23 PM ET
They aren't comparable bro. They just aren't. It was a bad comparison is all. Simple as that.
- aminnes



You're replying to a post where he says he didn't compare them, with "they aren't comparable"?

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 14 @ 11:24 PM ET
It wasn't an actual comparison though. It was more about being patient with Nylander. Perhaps I should have said the Leafs should be patient with Nylander just like Colorado was with MacKinnon.
- PatC80



Na, people get it. Goofs looking to troll don't
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 14 @ 11:24 PM ET
I think Risto would be better on a good team.
- PatC80


I don't think he would be. He's a power play specialist and just flat out useless defensively.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 14 @ 11:25 PM ET
You're replying to a post where he says he didn't compare them, with "they aren't comparable"?


- burn

Gretzky had more career points than Jeff O'Neill.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 14 @ 11:26 PM ET
They aren't comparable bro. They just aren't. It was a bad comparison is all. Simple as that.
- aminnes

Don’t be so obtuse. What he said was it’s risky to give up on a good young player too quickly. I’m paraphrasing because tonight there seems to be some comprehension issues.
Nowhere did he compare the two players.

aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 14 @ 11:27 PM ET
It wasn't an actual comparison though. It was more about being patient with Nylander. Perhaps I should have said the Leafs should be patient with Nylander just like Colorado was with MacKinnon.
- PatC80


Fair enough. But ultimately is Nylander what they need moving forward? I mean, unless he morphs into Mac is he really necessary? Can't they score lots without him. Don't they need his cap space for defence?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 14 @ 11:27 PM ET
Na, people get it. Goofs looking to troll don't
- burn

I hope that's the case.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 14 @ 11:28 PM ET
I love that all the fans boys that are wrong all the time band together and defend each other. It's actually super cute.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 14 @ 11:28 PM ET
Gretzky had more career points than Jeff O'Neill.
- PatC80



The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 14 @ 11:28 PM ET
It wasn't an actual comparison though. It was more about being patient with Nylander. Perhaps I should have said the Leafs should be patient with Nylander just like Colorado was with MacKinnon.
- PatC80


Anyone that matters knows what you meant. You're allowed to compare things that are different ...it's called an analogy. You pointed out that the situations (not the players) were similar and you were right.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 14 @ 11:29 PM ET
I don't think he would be. He's a power play specialist and just flat out useless defensively.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I think he's been expected to do too much on a poopty team. In a reduced role with less pressure he'd do well.
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