is it even bashing when it's just pointing at what they're doing and laughing? i suppose, we could just try to stifle the laughter to be nice.

- RealityChecker

That's kind of what I mean. Pointing out repeated stupidity isn't really bashing.

The level of moronity on this site is reaching epic proportions, across the board.

The level of moronity on this site is reaching epic proportions, across the board.
- 1970vintage

It has been the same for a decade now, your tolerance right now is just lower.

It has been the same for a decade now, your tolerance right now is just lower.
- manvanfan

I have to agree with Vintsy, the pandemic and political posts are out of control.

The days of trolling others favourite hockey teams is nonexistent, it’s now pro-vax or anti-vax or dumbass liberals vs dumbass conservatives.

I have to agree with Vintsy, the pandemic and political posts are out of control.

The days of trolling others favourite hockey teams is nonexistent, it’s now pro-vax or anti-vax or dumbass liberals vs dumbass conservatives.
- Makita

Yeah, it wasn’t even Canucks thread I was referring to. It’s the drawing lines from anti Vax = conservative = white power & pro Vax = liberal = social justice warrior.

Plenty of morons in all those groups.

I think what BC needs is more pipelines running through the mountains of BC. It should really help stabilize the mountains and prevent some of these mudslides, that happen when we get some of these torrential downpours.

I think what BC needs is more pipelines running through the mountains of BC. It should really help stabilize the mountains and prevent some of these mudslides, that happen when we get some of these torrential downpours.
- Reubenkincade

We will have to transport oil for a few years still so what’s the safest way; by land or by sea? I know which one I’d choose.

We will have to transport oil for a few years still so what’s the safest way; by land or by sea? I know which one I’d choose.
- bloatedmosquito

Also, I don't think the pipeline is to blame for the slides. Climate change and forestry practices would be fore front and the development.
Anyway, Reuby is probably at work at the LNG plant.

Also, I don't think the pipeline is to blame for the slides. Climate change and forestry practices would be fore front and the development.
Anyway, Reuby is probably at work at the LNG plant.
- Marwood

Read on the BBC this morning that a months worth of rain was dropped in 24 hours.

Read on the BBC this morning that a months worth of rain was dropped in 24 hours.
- NewYorkNuck

Yeah, they call it an atmospheric river. Yikes.

Also, I don't think the pipeline is to blame for the slides. Climate change and forestry practices would be fore front and the development.
Anyway, Reuby is probably at work at the LNG plant.
- Marwood

I’m more surprised at the lack of response from the provincial government. Don’t we have this fancy emergency broadcast system (that they have been testing for a year now). If the complete evacuation of the sumas prairie is not a large scale emergency, I don’t know what is.

Isn’t the total loss of the Coquihalla Highway and Highway 1 not a large scale emergency?

Independent reporting through Twitter and local news agencies have done far more to alert us to the realities of this disaster. Shame on the provincial government.

Well, maybe if Ottawa and the rest of the country, especially BC & Quebec didn't pile on the 'Alberta bashing' this referendum wouldn't be needed to distract the voters from the tire-fire that is his leadership.
- Marwood

Well deserved.

Are any of you part of the grocery store hoarders?

Another display of how dysfunctional society has become.

Are any of you part of the grocery store hoarders?

Another display of how dysfunctional society has become.
- VanHockeyGuy

I bought 22 bulbs of garlic is that hoarding?

I bought 22 bulbs of garlic is that hoarding?
- A_SteamingLombardi

It's the time of year to buy garlic........plant it even.

I bought 22 bulbs of garlic is that hoarding?
- A_SteamingLombardi

so you're just going to leave the rest of us behind during the vampire apocalypse, huh?

so you're just going to leave the rest of us behind during the vampire apocalypse, huh?
- RealityChecker

I've salvaged the last tomatoes from a friends green house and I'm making a load of pasta/pizza sauce, I have to find some fresh basil.

I've salvaged the last tomatoes from a friends green house and I'm making a load of pasta/pizza sauce, I have to find some fresh basil.
- A_SteamingLombardi

International Transport Forum (ITF) estimated that maritime transport made up 3% of global emissions and 27% of freight transport emissions in 2015, amounting to roughly 873 million tonnes of CO2 per year (ITF, 2019). Oil tankers make up 13% of maritime emissions, or approximately 114 million tonnes of CO2 (Olmer et al., 2017). Globally, emissions from oil tankers are estimated to have totaled 210 million metric tons of CO2 in 2020.

Transport Canada estimates that there are approximately 20,000 oil tanker movements off the coasts of Canada each year. Of these, approximately 17,000 (85%) are on the Atlantic coast.

On average a Crude Oil tanker produces 4.57 grams CO2 per tonne per kilometer. It is about 11000 km from Saudi to Canada. A long range Oil Tanker is about 80,000 tonnes. If I did my math right - each oil tanker emits about 4000 metric tonnes of CO2 in its travel to Canada.

Another way to look at it is Canada imported about 6 Million tonnes of Oil from Saudi in 2019. So just moving the oil weight is 6,000,000 tonnes x 4.57 g/tonne x 11000 km and that gets me to 3,000,000 tonnes of CO2 to ship the oil.

By Comparsion, Enbridge says transportion by pipeline is about 3.7 kg/CO2 per barrel for them so again if I did my math right, shipping that same 6,000,000 tonnes of oil from Alberta to Quebec by pipeline would be about 165,000 tonnes of CO2 - or about 20 times less. And my calculation for the oil tankers is probably about 20% too low as I did not take into account the dry weight of the ship.

Thank you Quebec for not wanting "dirty" Alberta Oil in your province and increasing global emissions by 3.5 Million Tonnes of CO2.

International Transport Forum (ITF) estimated that maritime transport made up 3% of global emissions and 27% of freight transport emissions in 2015, amounting to roughly 873 million tonnes of CO2 per year (ITF, 2019). Oil tankers make up 13% of maritime emissions, or approximately 114 million tonnes of CO2 (Olmer et al., 2017). Globally, emissions from oil tankers are estimated to have totaled 210 million metric tons of CO2 in 2020.

Transport Canada estimates that there are approximately 20,000 oil tanker movements off the coasts of Canada each year. Of these, approximately 17,000 (85%) are on the Atlantic coast.

On average a Crude Oil tanker produces 4.57 grams CO2 per tonne per kilometer. It is about 11000 km from Saudi to Canada. A long range Oil Tanker is about 80,000 tonnes. If I did my math right - each oil tanker emits about 4000 metric tonnes of CO2 in its travel to Canada.

Another way to look at it is Canada imported about 6 Million tonnes of Oil from Saudi in 2019. So just moving the oil weight is 6,000,000 tonnes x 4.57 g/tonne x 11000 km and that gets me to 3,000,000 tonnes of CO2 to ship the oil.

By Comparsion, Enbridge says transportion by pipeline is about 3.7 kg/CO2 per barrel for them so again if I did my math right, shipping that same 6,000,000 tonnes of oil from Alberta to Quebec by pipeline would be about 165,000 tonnes of CO2 - or about 20 times less. And my calculation for the oil tankers is probably about 20% too low as I did not take into account the dry weight of the ship.

Thank you Quebec for not wanting "dirty" Alberta Oil in your province and increasing global emissions by 3.5 Million Tonnes of CO2.
- LeftCoaster

Jesus fucking christ, Lefty, take your stroking material somewhere else.

International Transport Forum (ITF) estimated that maritime transport made up 3% of global emissions and 27% of freight transport emissions in 2015, amounting to roughly 873 million tonnes of CO2 per year (ITF, 2019). Oil tankers make up 13% of maritime emissions, or approximately 114 million tonnes of CO2 (Olmer et al., 2017). Globally, emissions from oil tankers are estimated to have totaled 210 million metric tons of CO2 in 2020.

Transport Canada estimates that there are approximately 20,000 oil tanker movements off the coasts of Canada each year. Of these, approximately 17,000 (85%) are on the Atlantic coast.

On average a Crude Oil tanker produces 4.57 grams CO2 per tonne per kilometer. It is about 11000 km from Saudi to Canada. A long range Oil Tanker is about 80,000 tonnes. If I did my math right - each oil tanker emits about 4000 metric tonnes of CO2 in its travel to Canada.

Another way to look at it is Canada imported about 6 Million tonnes of Oil from Saudi in 2019. So just moving the oil weight is 6,000,000 tonnes x 4.57 g/tonne x 11000 km and that gets me to 3,000,000 tonnes of CO2 to ship the oil.

By Comparsion, Enbridge says transportion by pipeline is about 3.7 kg/CO2 per barrel for them so again if I did my math right, shipping that same 6,000,000 tonnes of oil from Alberta to Quebec by pipeline would be about 165,000 tonnes of CO2 - or about 20 times less. And my calculation for the oil tankers is probably about 20% too low as I did not take into account the dry weight of the ship.

Thank you Quebec for not wanting "dirty" Alberta Oil in your province and increasing global emissions by 3.5 Million Tonnes of CO2.
- LeftCoaster

remind me again, is it the movement of the oil after it's already been extracted that's the only issue or is there something bigger such as the process to take out the oil from tar sands?

you might not think so but i'm pretty down the middle re: environment vs business but it's disingenuous arguments from both sides that really makes me dislike both.

International Transport Forum (ITF) estimated that maritime transport made up 3% of global emissions and 27% of freight transport emissions in 2015, amounting to roughly 873 million tonnes of CO2 per year (ITF, 2019). Oil tankers make up 13% of maritime emissions, or approximately 114 million tonnes of CO2 (Olmer et al., 2017). Globally, emissions from oil tankers are estimated to have totaled 210 million metric tons of CO2 in 2020.

Transport Canada estimates that there are approximately 20,000 oil tanker movements off the coasts of Canada each year. Of these, approximately 17,000 (85%) are on the Atlantic coast.

On average a Crude Oil tanker produces 4.57 grams CO2 per tonne per kilometer. It is about 11000 km from Saudi to Canada. A long range Oil Tanker is about 80,000 tonnes. If I did my math right - each oil tanker emits about 4000 metric tonnes of CO2 in its travel to Canada.

Another way to look at it is Canada imported about 6 Million tonnes of Oil from Saudi in 2019. So just moving the oil weight is 6,000,000 tonnes x 4.57 g/tonne x 11000 km and that gets me to 3,000,000 tonnes of CO2 to ship the oil.

By Comparsion, Enbridge says transportion by pipeline is about 3.7 kg/CO2 per barrel for them so again if I did my math right, shipping that same 6,000,000 tonnes of oil from Alberta to Quebec by pipeline would be about 165,000 tonnes of CO2 - or about 20 times less. And my calculation for the oil tankers is probably about 20% too low as I did not take into account the dry weight of the ship.

Thank you Quebec for not wanting "dirty" Alberta Oil in your province and increasing global emissions by 3.5 Million Tonnes of CO2.
- LeftCoaster

You really need to listen to music.

International Transport Forum (ITF) estimated that maritime transport made up 3% of global emissions and 27% of freight transport emissions in 2015, amounting to roughly 873 million tonnes of CO2 per year (ITF, 2019). Oil tankers make up 13% of maritime emissions, or approximately 114 million tonnes of CO2 (Olmer et al., 2017). Globally, emissions from oil tankers are estimated to have totaled 210 million metric tons of CO2 in 2020.

Transport Canada estimates that there are approximately 20,000 oil tanker movements off the coasts of Canada each year. Of these, approximately 17,000 (85%) are on the Atlantic coast.

On average a Crude Oil tanker produces 4.57 grams CO2 per tonne per kilometer. It is about 11000 km from Saudi to Canada. A long range Oil Tanker is about 80,000 tonnes. If I did my math right - each oil tanker emits about 4000 metric tonnes of CO2 in its travel to Canada.

Another way to look at it is Canada imported about 6 Million tonnes of Oil from Saudi in 2019. So just moving the oil weight is 6,000,000 tonnes x 4.57 g/tonne x 11000 km and that gets me to 3,000,000 tonnes of CO2 to ship the oil.

By Comparsion, Enbridge says transportion by pipeline is about 3.7 kg/CO2 per barrel for them so again if I did my math right, shipping that same 6,000,000 tonnes of oil from Alberta to Quebec by pipeline would be about 165,000 tonnes of CO2 - or about 20 times less. And my calculation for the oil tankers is probably about 20% too low as I did not take into account the dry weight of the ship.

Thank you Quebec for not wanting "dirty" Alberta Oil in your province and increasing global emissions by 3.5 Million Tonnes of CO2.
- LeftCoaster

Retard.

Jesus there are quite a few different individuals in the main thread, after almost two years and there are still discussions about efficacy, transmission, variants, and then good ole gramma’s remedies.