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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
Brilliant!
- Marwood


Sounds like the situation is tense there today. Police moving in trying to clear the occupiers. People in gas masks, bringing their kids in there as a shield.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 19 @ 5:40 PM ET
Sounds like the situation is tense there today. Police moving in trying to clear the occupiers. People in gas masks, bringing their kids in there as a shield.
- 1970vintage


The freedom to use their children as human shields. Nice.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 19 @ 8:23 PM ET
The freedom to use their children as human shields. Nice.
- bloatedmosquito

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 20 @ 1:27 PM ET
The “amendment” chatter on Twitter is pretty hilarious. Apparently the 1st amendment in Canadian terms is The Manitoba Act
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 21 @ 3:26 PM ET


The caption is “coalition against fried chicken on the way to Ottawa”

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 22 @ 12:10 PM ET
This one is brilliant

Guy on a balcony in downtown Ottawa.

https://twitter.com/mijus.../1494106335280910342?s=21

- 1970vintage


That was excellent
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 22 @ 2:34 PM ET
That was excellent
- Reubenkincade

It warmed my heart. Much like the chicken convoy against fried chicken. For the record, I don't support them.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 22 @ 2:56 PM ET


The caption is “coalition against fried chicken on the way to Ottawa”


- 1970vintage


You need to photoshop in some Canadian flags and poorly spelt signage to make it even more realistic.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 22 @ 3:17 PM ET


The caption is “coalition against fried chicken on the way to Ottawa”


- 1970vintage

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Feb 22 @ 3:32 PM ET


The caption is “coalition against fried chicken on the way to Ottawa”


- 1970vintage

damn rednecks. bunch of who clucks klan.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 22 @ 4:27 PM ET
You need to photoshop in some Canadian flags and poorly spelt signage to make it even more realistic.
- bloatedmosquito


It’s not my original, but I’ll see what I can do…
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 23 @ 1:56 AM ET
It warmed my heart. Much like the chicken convoy against fried chicken. For the record, I don't support them.
- Marwood


Ya, me neither. I am fine with people protest, as long as it is civil.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
Ya, me neither. I am fine with people protest, as long as it is civil.
- Reubenkincade

Agreed. I have no problem with people protesting. However, as long as protesters know that there are responsibilities/consequences that come with civil disobedience.

If you break the law or the protests become illegal, I have no problem bringing the full force of the law down on them.

And before you (the lurkers who read this thread but pretend you don't) think I'm talking exclusively about the truckers, think again.

I'm talking all protests. If you (the universal you) have no problem with what the truckers did, then you shouldn't have any issues with Greta Thunberg type protests, Project Extinction shutting down bridges, environmentalists shutting down the port, logging protesters shutting down logging roads etc.

I have a problem with those just like I do the truckers. Protest all you like but when it's illegal, don't complain about being arrested. With rights come responsibilities. And if you support the truckers right to protest and shut down borders etc., STFU when it comes to other protests.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:59 AM ET
Agreed. I have no problem with people protesting. However, as long as protesters know that there are responsibilities/consequences that come with civil disobedience.

If you break the law or the protests become illegal, I have no problem bringing the full force of the law down on them.

And before you (the lurkers who read this thread but pretend you don't) think I'm talking exclusively about the truckers, think again.

I'm talking all protests. If you (the universal you) have no problem with what the truckers did, then you shouldn't have any issues with Greta Thunberg type protests, Project Extinction shutting down bridges, environmentalists shutting down the port, logging protesters shutting down logging roads etc.

I have a problem with those just like I do the truckers. Protest all you like but when it's illegal, don't complain about being arrested. With rights come responsibilities. And if you support the truckers right to protest and shut down borders etc., STFU when it comes to other protests.

- RealityChecker




Happy with people protesting peacefully and lawfully, fine with people protesting with civil disobedience as long as they're fully aware of the consequences and accept that going in (with the asterisk of overt violence/terrorism from both the protestors and the police, that's not cool).

I think *most* lefty protest people are accepting with being arrested over civil disobedience, there's a long history of it from the civil rights through environmentalism and so forth.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 12:48 PM ET


Happy with people protesting peacefully and lawfully, fine with people protesting with civil disobedience as long as they're fully aware of the consequences and accept that going in (with the asterisk of overt violence/terrorism from both the protestors and the police, that's not cool).

I think *most* lefty protest people are accepting with being arrested over civil disobedience, there's a long history of it from the civil rights through environmentalism and so forth.

- NewYorkNuck

I was going to mention something about that.

It used to be that protesters accepted and knew that they would be arrested. It was part of the deal and the arrests/aftermath (courts) was part of the protest.

Now, it seems that everyone (in most protests) thinks that just because their cause is "righteous" (based on their own logic/beliefs) that there should be no consequence.

It's just another version of entitle-ism. "I'm entitled to protest and exercise my rights without consequences."

I call that 'fcuk around and find out.'
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
I was going to mention something about that.

It used to be that protesters accepted and knew that they would be arrested. It was part of the deal and the arrests/aftermath (courts) was part of the protest.

Now, it seems that everyone (in most protests) thinks that just because their cause is "righteous" (based on their own logic/beliefs) that there should be no consequence.

It's just another version of entitle-ism. "I'm entitled to protest and exercise my rights without consequences."


I call that 'fcuk around and find out.'

- RealityChecker

This.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 23 @ 4:11 PM ET
Agreed. I have no problem with people protesting. However, as long as protesters know that there are responsibilities/consequences that come with civil disobedience.

If you break the law or the protests become illegal, I have no problem bringing the full force of the law down on them.

And before you (the lurkers who read this thread but pretend you don't) think I'm talking exclusively about the truckers, think again.

I'm talking all protests. If you (the universal you) have no problem with what the truckers did, then you shouldn't have any issues with Greta Thunberg type protests, Project Extinction shutting down bridges, environmentalists shutting down the port, logging protesters shutting down logging roads etc.

I have a problem with those just like I do the truckers. Protest all you like but when it's illegal, don't complain about being arrested. With rights come responsibilities. And if you support the truckers right to protest and shut down borders etc., STFU when it comes to other protests.

- RealityChecker


Well said.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 23 @ 7:20 PM ET
Just heard a guy describe Trump as a "cheese filled clown shoe of a human being"
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:12 PM ET
Just heard a guy describe Trump as a "cheese filled clown shoe of a human being"
- A_SteamingLombardi


I’m listening. What kind of cheese? Soft and squishy, maybe a little stinky, or more likely that fake cheese they pump on nachos at a stadium.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 23 @ 10:46 PM ET
I’m listening. What kind of cheese? Soft and squishy, maybe a little stinky, or more likely that fake cheese they pump on nachos at a stadium.
- 1970vintage

We're talking Trump here, most definitely fake cheese it matches his skin tone as well.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 23 @ 11:22 PM ET
I’m listening. What kind of cheese? Soft and squishy, maybe a little stinky, or more likely that fake cheese they pump on nachos at a stadium.
- 1970vintage

You pretty much have the blend.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Feb 24 @ 2:57 AM ET
Just heard a guy describe Trump as a "cheese filled clown shoe of a human being"
- A_SteamingLombardi


Anyone read his comments over Russia/Ukraine? God I hope he just dies soon and he never holds office again.

Speaking at a political fundraiser held at his Mar-a-Lago country club in Palm Beach, Fla., Trump admired the Russian dictator's strategic success.

"I mean, he's taking over a country for $2 worth of sanctions," Trump said. "I'd say that's pretty smart. He's taking over a country — literally a vast, vast location, a great piece of land with a lot of people, and just walking right in."

...

"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, 'This is genius.' Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine, of Ukraine, Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump said in an interview on "The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show."

The ex-President added: "So Putin is now saying, 'It's independent,' a large section of Ukraine. I said, 'How smart is that?' And he's going to go in and be a peacekeeper. That's the strongest peace force," Trump said. "We could use that on our southern border. That's the strongest peace force I've ever seen. ... Here's a guy who's very savvy. ... I know him very well. Very, very well."
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 11:19 AM ET
moron pretends he doesn't read this thread because he's too much of a pu$$y to engage here.

rent free baby.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 11:45 AM ET
moron pretends he doesn't read this thread because he's too much of a pu$$y to engage here.

rent free baby.

- RealityChecker

He has said as much. He is scared of the people that post in here.

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 25 @ 7:06 PM ET
Anyone read his comments over Russia/Ukraine? God I hope he just dies soon and he never holds office again.
- NewYorkNuck


Trump is a moron, and I’m not condoning what’s going on right now, but this has been an inevitability since US and EU backed militants took over the government back in 2014.

Imagine if Russia and China backed a faction that took over control of Mexico, and allowed those nations to move military personnel and equipment into Mexico on the border with Texas.
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