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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 15 @ 6:51 PM ET
Arizona just elected a Democrat Senator, Governor and Secretary of State, the first time in 71 years they’ve had two Dem senators, a Dem Governor and Secretary of State. Trump killed the GOP!
- Pacificgem


Rumor has it he’s going to announce his candidacy for 2024 tonight. I also saw a headline suggesting he might start a new party… at least Americans couldn’t complain about the two party system anymore.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 15 @ 7:23 PM ET
Rumor has it he’s going to announce his candidacy for 2024 tonight. I also saw a headline suggesting he might start a new party… at least Americans couldn’t complain about the two party system anymore.
- 1970vintage


Thinking you can start a third political party in the US is just nuts… or maybe it’s conceit? But if he did it would guarantee a Dem led house and senate for years to come. The Republican Party in shambles.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 16 @ 3:46 AM ET
HUH?


I already explained that Russia has reported the same when their S-300's land on their own... Nice way to cherry pick a post.

Also, S-300 is not used or equipped to attack ground targets regardless of what is being accused. Furthermore, many of the areas that this was reported in were way out of range of Russia's S-300 systems(by hundreds of kms even) meaning that those missiles were in fact fired by Ukraine who has this same system. I know a lot about these systems.

- boonerbuck


About the S-300:

There have been documented instances in the past of S-300s used by the Russian military for ground attacks during exercises. Even the Belarusian army has reportedly practiced using the system to hit stationary ground targets.

The most recent instance of this was in May 2017, when the Air Defense Forces of Russia’s Eastern Military District (EMD) had used the S-300 system during an exercise in Khabarovsk to destroy targets imitating ‘armored vehicles of the enemy, as per a report by the state-owned Ria Novosti.

“The S-300 air defense system is capable, if necessary, of carrying out combat launches of missiles at ground targets, receiving their coordinates from reconnaissance units of the ground forces,” reported Ria Novosti.

Before this, Russia’s Southern Military District (SMD) had also referenced the ground attack capability of S-300 in a press release about a tactical exercise in 2011 of the aerospace defense brigade (VKO) at Ashuluk training ground in the Astrakhan region.

“Combat crews of the S-300 air defense system made 14 launches of guided missiles, hitting the Kaban-2 and Pishchal targets at a considerable distance, as well as ground targets in the conditions of the created situation, as close as possible to the combat one,” SMD said in a press release in August 2011.

Two months later, a more detailed account of the S-300’s ground attack role was provided by a Belarussian media outlet, Naviny, which reported that the developers initially incorporated the capability of “hitting stationary ground targets into the design of the S-300 air defense system adopted for service in 1979, as well as all its subsequent modifications.”


So, appears you don't know as much about them as you think you do.

As well for your fog of war statement, maybe I'm reading it wrong... but implying no one can know what's happening in the war/lack of information because of the "fog of war", however you imply to know exactly what's happening because of no fog of war...? it's incongruous.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 16 @ 11:00 AM ET
Huh, turns out it was a Ukrainian stray.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
Huh, turns out it was a Ukrainian stray.
- 1970vintage

Was it Nazis?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 16 @ 1:39 PM ET
Was it Nazis?
- Marwood


Tomato tomato, no comrade?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 16 @ 2:29 PM ET
Go back and read with the (new) idea in mind that Russia is capable and has been reported to use the S-300 in ground attacks.

No one said this was deliberate, no one even said with certainty it was a Russian missile or even what kind of missile (as no one had certainty at that point). But you chimed in with 100% confidence that S-300s aren't capable to be used for ground targets – which is factually wrong. Sure they aren't precise weapons, but they don't have to be when firing at a large target or infrastructure.

Anyways, if you want to reply, kindly use the other thread.

- NewYorkNuck


Please. The outrage on social media about NATO declaring an article 5 breach, and having to respond with force even if it was accidental was overwhelming. Those same “people” are very quiet now…

I’m not supporting any faction, just pointing out the hypocrisy.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 16 @ 2:50 PM ET
Please. The outrage on social media about NATO declaring an article 5 breach, and having to respond with force even if it was accidental was overwhelming. Those same “people” are very quiet now…

I’m not supporting any faction, just pointing out the hypocrisy.

- 1970vintage


I meant in here, on these forums. Should have been more specific on that, but it was within the context of/sandwiched between "go back and read (the thread)" and him "chiming in"
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 16 @ 9:12 PM ET
I meant in here, on these forums. Should have been more specific on that, but it was within the context of/sandwiched between "go back and read (the thread)" and him "chiming in"
- NewYorkNuck


Yeah yeah, you’re a good poster and all that jazz.

The US politics poop next is unbearable. Can’t have a conversation with someone who isn’t capable of critical thought.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 16 @ 10:11 PM ET
Idiots!
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 17 @ 5:59 AM ET
Idiots!
- VanHockeyGuy


Can you be more specific?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 17 @ 2:07 PM ET
Can you be more specific?
- Reubenkincade


VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 17 @ 9:59 PM ET
Elon is coming for you Neo Leftists!
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 17 @ 10:06 PM ET
Elon is coming for you Neo Leftists!
- VanHockeyGuy

Wait until he loses all the Arab money he borrowed to buy twitter they'll be coming for him to give him the Jamal Khashoggi treatment.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 18 @ 4:47 AM ET
Elon is coming for you Neo Leftists!
- VanHockeyGuy


Elon is a train wreck
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
Elon is a train wreck
- NewYorkNuck


“NEW: Twitter just alerted employees that effective immediately, all office buildings are temporarily closed and badge access is suspended. No details given as to why.”


“I was laid off from Twitter this afternoon. I was in charge of managing badge access to Twitter offices.

Elon just called me and asked if I could come back to help them regain access to HQ as they shut off all badges and accidentally locked themselves out.”
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 18 @ 4:49 PM ET
“NEW: Twitter just alerted employees that effective immediately, all office buildings are temporarily closed and badge access is suspended. No details given as to why.”


“I was laid off from Twitter this afternoon. I was in charge of managing badge access to Twitter offices.

Elon just called me and asked if I could come back to help them regain access to HQ as they shut off all badges and accidentally locked themselves out.”

- 1970vintage


Lol fantastic. I read that they fired whatever percentage (20?) at the beginning, issued the "work long hours or leave" ultimatum giving the leave people 3 months severance, and like 75% of the remaining staff chose leave one reason they had to close things down
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 18 @ 4:56 PM ET
Lol fantastic. I read that they fired whatever percentage (20?) at the beginning, issued the "work long hours or leave" ultimatum giving the leave people 3 months severance, and like 75% of the remaining staff chose leave one reason they had to close things down
- NewYorkNuck

Elon Musk buying twitter is one of my favourite things ever
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 18 @ 5:33 PM ET
Elon Musk buying twitter is one of my favourite things ever
- golfingsince


Reminds me of when Trump said "You’re going to have such great health care, at a tiny fraction of the cost—and it’s going to be so easy" and then a few months later said “It’s an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated.”

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 19 @ 10:13 AM ET
Arizona just elected a Democrat Senator, Governor and Secretary of State, the first time in 71 years they’ve had two Dem senators, a Dem Governor and Secretary of State. Trump killed the GOP!
- Pacificgem

No such thing as election fraud!!
American Idol can count 50 million votes during a commercial break but Arizona needs over a week. Nothing to see.


Look as though the Republicans have control again so they will be going after Biden's crime operations soon.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 19 @ 10:14 AM ET
Idiots!
- VanHockeyGuy

Champion postings!!

alt-left is beautiful...beautiful!!

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 19 @ 10:15 AM ET
Elon Musk buying twitter is one of my favourite things ever
- golfingsince

Agreed. Twitter is at it's highest usage ever and he's cleaning house. It's a very good thing.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 19 @ 10:16 AM ET
Elon is coming for you Neo Leftists!
- VanHockeyGuy

Gotta love it.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 19 @ 10:20 AM ET
Was it Nazis?
- Marwood

You would know.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 20 @ 11:42 AM ET
You can add Steve Bannon to the list as well.


Musk learned from watching Trump. Trump learned from Roy Cohn. Cohn learned from reading Goebbels. It's the same playbook. Lie. Repeat. Go all in. All the time. Double down. Deflect. Distract. Repeat for eternity.
Only requirement: acute narcissism.
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