Right, so nothing.

Thanks for playing Prez we know where you stand.
- golfingsince

Exactly like LMP, won't provide actual data when asked for it.

The truth is out there, boys.

Right, so nothing.

Thanks for playing Prez we know where you stand.
- golfingsince

Nothing?

Is that what the branch covidian doctrine tells you?

So many holes in that narrative you'd need some pretty heavy blinders on.

Have you read any of the Twitter files?

Exactly like LMP, won't provide actual data when asked for it.

The truth is out there, boys.
- NewYorkNuck

What are you on about?

I'll start small and build from there for you. 2 simple question to start.

Do you believe the federal government was coercive in their efforts to get everyone in Canada vaccinated against covid?

Not saying whether that's right or wrong, just whether their actions were coercive.

Do you believe the Federal government of Canada informed Canadians accurately and honestly at all times throughout the pandemic?

I'm specifically taking about them saying that the vaccine would stop transmission.

If you actually want to go through this then we've got to start small and build from there, otherwise everything gets buried in rhetoric, from both sides.

If you just want to adhere strictly to the sacred Branch Covidian Doctrines then we'll get nowhere as religious fanatics historically lose their ability to reason.

What are you on about?
- Pres.cup

Golfing asked a very straightforward and simple question – a place to "start small" from.

You spun out of it, told him basically to look it up himself (but the data mostly isn't there anymore), and are now trying to turn it to "start small" from your line of questioning. If you want people to be honest and simple, go back and answer some questions straightforward and back up your claims with evidence. Take screenshots, link to substantiated articles/papers, etc.

Golfing asked a very straightforward and simple question – a place to "start small" from.

You spun out of it, told him basically to look it up himself (but the data mostly isn't there anymore), and are now trying to turn it to "start small" from your line of questioning. If you want people to be honest and simple, go back and answer some questions straightforward and back up your claims with evidence. Take screenshots, link to substantiated articles/papers, etc.
- NewYorkNuck

I've done that to many times to count and frankly don't care enough to bother. If someone is a religious fanatic then they ignore anything else.

Branch covidian are a cult.

Starting small is easier.

Now, was the government coercive?

Was the government honest?

I've done that to many times to count and frankly don't care enough to bother. If someone is a religious fanatic then they ignore anything else.

Branch covidian are a cult.

Starting small is easier.

Now, was the government coercive?

Was the government honest?
- Pres.cup

You see the irony, no?

You see the irony, no?
- NewYorkNuck

No, I don't adhere to any specific view regarding the pandemic.

I changed my mind repeatedly over the course of it. as more and more proof came out that the official response wasn't correct, I rejected the official narrative and looked at the actual hospitalization data provided by the Isreal hospitalization data, than the CDC, than bccdc, then the UK hospitalization data and finally Australian hospitalization data. They all showed the same thing. Younger people without co-morbidities were not being hospitalized or dying of covid.

Did you know that in the last few weeks of 2022, until the government changed how they presented data, there were weeks without any unvaccinated people hospitalized in Australia? Crazy statistics that I don't understand but then Australia rolled all the unknown and partially vaxxed into the unvaxxed category and hood this fact.

That is an example of government censorship.

Exactly like LMP, won't provide actual data when asked for it.

The truth is out there, boys.
- NewYorkNuck

Here, read this,
https://www.sciencedirect...cle/pii/S0013935120307854

Just a study on covid deaths under the age of 65, risk factors, comorbidites, age, etc...

"People <65 years old have very small risks of COVID-19 death even in pandemic epicenters and deaths for people <65 years without underlying predisposing conditions are remarkably uncommon"

I stand by my statement that coercing healthy young people was not supported by science and still isn't. There's a reason the UK stopped offering boosters to anyone under 50 unless they had co-morbidities. They aren't at risk.

I'm going to leave this here.

No, I don't adhere to any specific view regarding the pandemic.

I changed my mind repeatedly over the course of it. as more and more proof came out that the official response wasn't correct, I rejected the official narrative and looked at the actual hospitalization data provided by the Isreal hospitalization data, than the CDC, than bccdc, then the UK hospitalization data and finally Australian hospitalization data. They all showed the same thing. Younger people without co-morbidities were not being hospitalized or dying of covid.

Did you know that in the last few weeks of 2022, until the government changed how they presented data, there were weeks without any unvaccinated people hospitalized in Australia? Crazy statistics that I don't understand but then Australia rolled all the unknown and partially vaxxed into the unvaxxed category and hood this fact.

That is an example of government censorship.
- Pres.cup

Total BS. Hospitals were overwhelmed with sick kids near the end of 2022. Not many (if any) actually died but there probably would have been many many more in hospitals if not for the vaccine.

Total BS. Hospitals were overwhelmed with sick kids near the end of 2022. Not many (if any) actually died but there probably would have been many many more in hospitals if not for the vaccine.
- TurdFergeson

as someone who works in a hospital, and whose wife is a nurse in a hospital, i can confirm, that from the beginning of the pandemic, and now with the respiatory illnesses in younger kids and teens, that hospitals have not had a break in admissions. Its been consistently packed since this whole thing started. I can't speak on behalf of the mainland, but on the island, its been a shlt show

Total BS. Hospitals were overwhelmed with sick kids near the end of 2022. Not many (if any) actually died but there probably would have been many many more in hospitals if not for the vaccine.
- TurdFergeson

Go find me some of these multiple examples of children without co-morbidities dying in the hospitals in 2022?

The pediatric wards were filled with children suffering from immune debt, not covid. RSV, influenza, etc...

The balance is now restored.

as someone who works in a hospital, and whose wife is a nurse in a hospital, i can confirm, that from the beginning of the pandemic, and now with the respiatory illnesses in younger kids and teens, that hospitals have not had a break in admissions. Its been consistently packed since this whole thing started. I can't speak on behalf of the mainland, but on the island, its been a shlt show
- Codes1087

Again, that wasn't covid but a variety of illnesses brought about from immune debt.

Pediatric beds are also at a lower total number than were available a decade ago, let alone 30 years ago.

Go find me some of these multiple examples of children without co-morbidities dying in the hospitals in 2022?

The pediatric wards were filled with children suffering from immune debt, not covid. RSV, influenza, etc...

The balance is now restored.
- Pres.cup

You’re as stupid as Lord micro penis.

The vaccines were never tested for transmission prior to launch, just their efficacy at preventing serious illness.

However, by February of 2021 at the latest ( first doses in Canada mid-december ) there were already multiple studies done that showed it highly reduced transmission in the variants at the time.

You just want to blur the lines Prez.

I'm beginning to think you're just scared of needles.

The vaccines were never tested for transmission prior to launch, just their efficacy at preventing serious illness.

However, by February of 2021 at the latest ( first doses in Canada mid-december ) there were already multiple studies done that showed it highly reduced transmission in the variants at the time.

You just want to blur the lines Prez.

I'm beginning to think you're just scared of needles.
- golfingsince

It’s a pandemic. It’s fluid. They learn as they go and things change. LMP and Pres try to make it seem like people lied because things changed as things became clearer.

It’s a pandemic. It’s fluid. They learn as they go and things change. LMP and Pres try to make it seem like people lied because things changed as things became clearer.
- TurdFergeson

Truth. Last one was 100 years ago.

You’re as stupid as Lord micro penis.
- TurdFergeson

Come on sweetheart, find me a some cases of a healthy 6 to 18yo who died of covid in BC? Shouldn't be hard, after all, we just lived through the deadliest pandemic in 100 years.

The vaccines were never tested for transmission prior to launch, just their efficacy at preventing serious illness.

However, by February of 2021 at the latest ( first doses in Canada mid-december ) there were already multiple studies done that showed it highly reduced transmission in the variants at the time.

You just want to blur the lines Prez.

I'm beginning to think you're just scared of needles.
- golfingsince

Picture for dramatic effect.


More branch covidian nonsense.

How many "vaccines" require a booster every 9 months?

Was the governments approach coercive? Just answer this simple question, yes or no, not whether it was correct, was it coercive? Can't you just answer this one question?

Come on sweetheart, find me a some cases of a healthy 6 to 18yo who died of covid in BC? Shouldn't be hard, after all, we just lived through the deadliest pandemic in 100 years.
- Pres.cup

Here are the stats from Canada:

https://www.statista.com/...vid-deaths-canada-by-age/

https://www.statista.com/...-age-distribution-canada/

I haven’t found the breakdown per province but so far there have been:

0-11 years 47 deaths (9.7% proportion of cases)
12-19 years 25 deaths (7.7%)

That’s just doing a very quick search. Give me a moment and I will get BC specific cases.

Picture for dramatic effect.


More branch covidian nonsense.

How many "vaccines" require a booster every 9 months?

Was the governments approach coercive? Just answer this simple question, yes or no, not whether it was correct, was it coercive? Can't you just answer this one question?
- Pres.cup

I love how that twit has you alt-right types all flustered. He is a corrupt politician. Is that something new or extraordinary? No. He is no different from any previous PM.

Here are the stats from Canada:

https://www.statista.com/...vid-deaths-canada-by-age/

https://www.statista.com/...-age-distribution-canada/

I haven’t found the breakdown per province but so far there have been:

0-11 years 47 deaths (9.7% proportion of cases)
12-19 years 25 deaths (7.7%)

That’s just doing a very quick search. Give me a moment and I will get BC specific cases.
- bloatedmosquito

*without co-morbidities *

I never suggested at risk people be denied the vax. I suggested that forcing low or zero risk people to get the vax is fundamentally wrong.

I love how that twit has you alt-right types all flustered. He is a corrupt politician. Is that something new or extraordinary? No. He is no different from any previous PM.
- bloatedmosquito

I'm a far left greeny my dude. Personal friend with both Elizabeth May and Adam Olsen. Only Trudeau labeled me right wing because of my opposition to his vaccine mandates.

To funny but yes, all prime ministers are corrupt and should be kicked out of office at the first opportunity.

The meme speaks truly. Those are all examples of what's called creeping facism.

*without co-morbidities *

I never suggested at risk people be denied the vax. I suggested that forcing low or zero risk people to get the vax is fundamentally wrong.
- Pres.cup

Where are you getting your co-morbidities info from?

Come on sweetheart, find me a some cases of a healthy 6 to 18yo who died of covid in BC? Shouldn't be hard, after all, we just lived through the deadliest pandemic in 100 years.
- Pres.cup

Again…too stupid. I said I hadn’t heard any that died but I’m sure there were a few. But hospitalizations spiked way up. Even with vaccines. Without them there would have been more, and worse severity.

Where are you getting your co-morbidities info from?
- bloatedmosquito