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Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Oct 30 @ 8:41 PM ET
Cool. You seem very passionate about immigration. What's your opinion on England's immigration policies since you are so in tune with international affairs?
- bloatedmosquito


I don't know about their immigration policies.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 30 @ 9:12 PM ET
I don't know about their immigration policies.
- Oildrum


Surprising that you don't know about the anti-immigration riots that happened this past August. It was a big deal. Far more significant than anything happening in the US. Why are you so obsessed with American policy when it has very little to do with Canada?

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 30 @ 10:00 PM ET
Have you heard Kamala Harris speak? All word salad, no clear points made on the important topics, flip flops back and forth on what she is for or against. Never answers any questions that aren't softballs. Even the pro right media are starting to turn on her with how ridiculous she sounds. Listen to the 3 hour Joe Rogan podcast with Trump and see if you still feel the same way about him.

The right calling him Hitler and that he'll destroy democracy. None of that happened the 4 years he was in charge. So ridiculous to say something like that. The Biden/Harris party are like the cheating boyfriend. All they do is accuse him of doing what they're doing themselves.

- Oildrum

yeah ok I am so convinced now, USA needs a lying, cheating, rapist, misogynist, thief, racist, admitted wanna be dictator in charge.

I noticed all you did was ramble about Harris/Biden and not at all endorse the criminal.

DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Oct 30 @ 11:13 PM ET
yeah ok I am so convinced now, USA needs a lying, cheating, rapist, misogynist, thief, racist, admitted wanna be dictator in charge.

I noticed all you did was ramble about Harris/Biden and not at all endorse the criminal.

- Makita


Again, both are the worst possible candidates, it's a choice between Token Black Female and Angry White Man
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 31 @ 12:13 AM ET
Again, both are the worst possible candidates, it's a choice between Token Black Female and Angry White Man
- DariusKnight


Her "black" claim is doubtful at best. She's even been busted with a claimed grandmother pic in her autobiography. The pic in the book is claiming she's standing beside her black Jamaican grandmother when she was a young adult. A little research shows her grandmother died 4 years before she was born. In her book she claims her grandmother's occupation was a seamstress. Documents have her grandmother's occupation listed as "family owned sugar plantation". There are accusations that the woman in the pic was actually house help at the plantation.

Either way... she's busted making up a story to support her race claim. Why would you need to do that if your claim is true?

Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Oct 31 @ 12:26 AM ET
yeah ok I am so convinced now, USA needs a lying, cheating, rapist, misogynist, thief, racist, admitted wanna be dictator in charge.

I noticed all you did was ramble about Harris/Biden and not at all endorse the criminal.

- Makita


You obviously didn't watch the Trump Rogan podcast or you wouldn't be saying such ridiculous things about Trump. You leftys talk so much about love and accept everyone but are the first to attack and name call anyone you disagree with.

Once again, you do realize that Trump was in power for 4 years and didn't do any of the things you and all the leftys ramble on about that he's going to do if he wins the election.



NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 31 @ 3:14 AM ET
Her "black" claim is doubtful at best. She's even been busted with a claimed grandmother pic in her autobiography. The pic in the book is claiming she's standing beside her black Jamaican grandmother when she was a young adult. A little research shows her grandmother died 4 years before she was born. In her book she claims her grandmother's occupation was a seamstress. Documents have her grandmother's occupation listed as "family owned sugar plantation". There are accusations that the woman in the pic was actually house help at the plantation.

Either way... she's busted making up a story to support her race claim. Why would you need to do that if your claim is true?

- boonerbuck


What the fuck conspiracy shit are you on? Her dad is black.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_J._Harris
https://www.reuters.com/f...ican-heritage-2024-08-14/


Also, seems like you've fallen for some pure online bullshit conspiracy: https://www.snopes.com/fa...andparents-candace-owens/
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 31 @ 4:10 AM ET
What the fuck conspiracy shit are you on? Her dad is black.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_J._Harris
https://www.reuters.com/f...ican-heritage-2024-08-14/


Also, seems like you've fallen for some pure online bullshit conspiracy: https://www.snopes.com/fa...andparents-candace-owens/

- NewYorkNuck


Relax. I don't follow conspiracy theorists.

I'll look more into the grandmother story tomorrow. I don't think Candace Owens, Snopes or wiki are reliable sources. Snopes' fact checking gets made a fool of often by the omissions they make. I'm surprised they are still online even...
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Oct 31 @ 4:56 AM ET
Surprising that you don't know about the anti-immigration riots that happened this past August. It was a big deal. Far more significant than anything happening in the US. Why are you so obsessed with American policy when it has very little to do with Canada?


- bloatedmosquito


I'm obsessed with the direction everything has been going in North America with Biden/Trudeau at the helm. Look at the state of both countries right now. Cost of living through the roof, immigration out of control, the censorship, the rights of canadian and us citizens being unconstitutionally attacked.

Hopefully there's a light at the end of the tunnel if Trump/Poilievre win. Also, you're kidding yourself if you think what happens in the US doesn't affect us here in Canada at all.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 31 @ 5:27 AM ET
Relax. I don't follow conspiracy theorists.

I'll look more into the grandmother story tomorrow. I don't think Candace Owens, Snopes or wiki are reliable sources. Snopes' fact checking gets made a fool of often by the omissions they make. I'm surprised they are still online even...

- boonerbuck


I mean, you regurgitated a conspiracy theory. You might not "follow" them, but that doesn't mean you're not susceptible to them online.

Wiki is reliable enough to say where somewhere was born and what ethnicity they are. If not, Reuters has you covered.
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Oct 31 @ 11:20 AM ET
You obviously didn't watch the Trump Rogan podcast or you wouldn't be saying such ridiculous things about Trump. You leftys talk so much about love and accept everyone but are the first to attack and name call anyone you disagree with.

Once again, you do realize that Trump was in power for 4 years and didn't do any of the things you and all the leftys ramble on about that he's going to do if he wins the election.

- Oildrum


DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Oct 31 @ 2:53 PM ET
Just looking at the numbers, Harris probably wins because she'll get Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, Trump will get Ohio and Georgia, but that won't be enough to get him the electoral votes he needs.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 31 @ 3:52 PM ET
Just looking at the numbers, Harris probably wins because she'll get Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, Trump will get Ohio and Georgia, but that won't be enough to get him the electoral votes he needs.
- DariusKnight

If that happens as you layout what will Oildrums man crush do? Civil war, have his Supreme Court lackies overturn the democratic election?

Personally I think Harris may lose simply because she is a woman and Merica is doing everything they can to oppress women.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:07 PM ET
The US election is a week away. Some food for thought.

The U.S. is in a MESS with open border policies, bringing in crime and burdening healthcare and housing, etc. identical in Canada. Trump did not create these mass issues in destabilizing the country. Ask yourself, how did the U.S. get here and why didn't Kamala help fix these issues over the last 4 years and the answer is, because she helped to create them. There is a much bigger agenda here. Look at the mainstream media. 50 stories a day bashing Trump and not one negative story about Kamala. Remember when true democracy presented 2 sides, and the people decided, and journalists interviewed both sides. Well now there is the radical far left destroying their own country and elites jumping on board because as the old saying goes, "if you can't beat them, join them". This is a different world where if you speak the truth or fight for what's right, you will be ousted.

Trump did not create the divisiveness, that all happened in the last 4 years, same as in Canada. If Trump wanted to destroy the county, he would have done it in his first term. If Harris (under Biden) wanted to help the country, she would have done it in her first term. Biden fired thousands of servicemen in the military for not taking the shot, while letting in millions and millions of unvaccinated illegals into the country.

Musk made a great point that if the Dems win this election the next one in 4 years will be a farce. Why have they been allowing all these illegals in the last 4 years. To bus them all to the swing states. Why? Because in 4 years all these illegals that were let in will have their citizenship cards and will be able to vote. Who do you think they'll vote for? They'll vote for the party that allowed them in and got them citizenship. There will be no more swing states and the Republicans will have no chance to win.

This may be the most important election in the history of the US.

- Oildrum


Dude...get ready for the neo-left response from the 'non liberals' lolz


Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:14 PM ET
If that happens as you layout what will Oildrums man crush do? Civil war, have his Supreme Court lackies overturn the democratic election?

Personally I think Harris may lose simply because she is a woman and Merica is doing everything they can to oppress women.

- Makita

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:14 PM ET
Her "black" claim is doubtful at best. She's even been busted with a claimed grandmother pic in her autobiography. The pic in the book is claiming she's standing beside her black Jamaican grandmother when she was a young adult. A little research shows her grandmother died 4 years before she was born. In her book she claims her grandmother's occupation was a seamstress. Documents have her grandmother's occupation listed as "family owned sugar plantation". There are accusations that the woman in the pic was actually house help at the plantation.

Either way... she's busted making up a story to support her race claim. Why would you need to do that if your claim is true?

- boonerbuck

It's for optics the 'black' angle to try and garner votes...

'Kamala Harris was raised by her Indian-American mother and Jamaican-American father Shyamala Gopalan and Donald Harris'

She's not 'black' per se she's Indian/American-Jamaican/American. Even some Asian.

But the media and narrative pushers will force folks to accept the 'black' card for the election lol.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:32 PM ET
Just looking at the numbers, Harris probably wins because she'll get Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, Trump will get Ohio and Georgia, but that won't be enough to get him the electoral votes he needs.
- DariusKnight

If the swing states are monitored Trump should technically win as what happened in 2020 where Trump was ahead in certain States and it was actually 'mathematically impossible' for Biden to win at that point but here come the late 'mail in ballots' that all favored Biden lolz very similar to what just happened in BC with 'late ballots' that favored the NDP lol. Can't make it up man. Trump is far from perfect but a way better option than that raving lunatic jackass Harris. But I do think Harris might be 'appointed'
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:33 PM ET
It's for optics the 'black' angle to try and garner votes...

'Kamala Harris was raised by her Indian-American mother and Jamaican-American father Shyamala Gopalan and Donald Harris'

She's not 'black' per se she's Indian/American-Jamaican/American.

But the media and narrative pushers will force folks to accept the 'black' card for the election lol.

- LordHumungous

She's not black, she's biracial. Just like Obama. She's also just a front for a shadow government that would actually be in charge. She's as dumb as Reuby and can't hold an intelligent meaningful conversation about anything important to the American people. She has no policies, it's strange.

Most educated and informed Republican's (insert ignorant Canadian jokes here) I know here in the U.S., are not thrilled with having to vote for Trump, who's also an idiot. They're voting to stay clear of the ultra leftwing ideology that comes with Harris and Walz, they are Justin Trudeau clones on steroids and will ruin the country like Trudeau's done to Canada. Don't think they don't see what's going on up there, it isn't pretty.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:40 PM ET
TORONTO (Reuters) - The Canadian dollar steadied near a 12-week low against its U.S. counterpart on Thursday and posted its biggest monthly decline in more than two years, as the domestic economy stalled in August and investors globally grew risk averse.

The loonie was trading nearly unchanged at 1.3909 to the U.S. dollar, or 71.90 U.S. cents, after touching its weakest intraday level since Aug. 5 at 1.3945.

For the month of October, the currency was down 2.8%, its biggest monthly decline since September 2022.


https://www.marketscreene...ne-in-two-years-48226054/
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 31 @ 5:43 PM ET
She's not black, she's biracial. Just like Obama. She's also just a front for a shadow government that would actually be in charge. She's as dumb as Reuby and can't hold an intelligent meaningful conversation about anything important to the American people. She has no policies, it's strange.

Most educated and informed Republican's (insert ignorant Canadian jokes here) I know here in the U.S., are not thrilled with having to vote for Trump, who's also an idiot. They're voting to stay clear of the ultra leftwing ideology that comes with Harris and Walz, they are Justin Trudeau clones on steroids and will ruin the country like Trudeau's done to Canada. Don't think they don't see what's going on up there, it isn't pretty.

- Pacificgem


Which one of his policies has been the worst in your opinion?
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 31 @ 6:13 PM ET
Which one of his policies has been the worst in your opinion?
- bloatedmosquito

Where do I start? Obviously you know his shortcomings, but you want to test me, I'm not stupid LOL!! Beyond his phony, lying, personality, he's embarrassed our country internationally. He did nothing with voter reform. The SNC Lavalin scandal, the arrivecan scandal, regional division within the country, national debt not ever seen before, environmental driven policies, housing, inflation/cost of living, jeez...need I go on? He's largely thought of as the worst Prime Minister in Canadian history, except by you.

I don't think it's about one specific policy, but rather, his tenure's been marred by controversies, unfulfilled promises, and policies that've divided the nation. I'll quote the below as to how I feel personally.

"Critics argue that his economic policies have burdened Canada with significant debt without proportionate economic growth or stability benefits. Fiscal management under his leadership lacked foresight and sustainability, potentially endangering Canada’s economic future."

"Environmental Policies and Actions

Despite campaigning on strong environmental policies, Trudeau’s actions have disappointed environmentalists and Indigenous communities. His government’s decision to purchase the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project contradicted his climate change commitments, sparking widespread protests and criticism from those who had been his staunch supporters.
"

"Ethics and Accountability Issues

Trudeau’s tenure has been punctuated by several ethics scandals that have tarnished his administration’s image. The SNC-Lavalin affair, where his office was accused of pressuring the justice minister to intervene in a criminal case, and the WE Charity scandal, involving a conflict of interest in awarding a significant contract, have raised serious questions about his administration’s governance, ethics, and accountability
."

https://financialpost.com...r-messaging-sink-liberals
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 31 @ 6:15 PM ET
It's for optics the 'black' angle to try and garner votes...

'Kamala Harris was raised by her Indian-American mother and Jamaican-American father Shyamala Gopalan and Donald Harris'

She's not 'black' per se she's Indian/American-Jamaican/American. Even some Asian.

But the media and narrative pushers will force folks to accept the 'black' card for the election lol.

- LordHumungous

So Jamaicans are white, and Indian are white, didn’t know that.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 31 @ 6:16 PM ET
If the swing states are monitored Trump should technically win as what happened in 2020 where Trump was ahead in certain States and it was actually 'mathematically impossible' for Biden to win at that point but here come the late 'mail in ballots' that all favored Biden lolz very similar to what just happened in BC with 'late ballots' that favored the NDP lol. Can't make it up man. Trump is far from perfect but a way better option than that raving lunatic jackass Harris. But I do think Harris might be 'appointed'
- LordHumungous

But you just did man.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 31 @ 6:20 PM ET
It's for optics the 'black' angle to try and garner votes...

'Kamala Harris was raised by her Indian-American mother and Jamaican-American father Shyamala Gopalan and Donald Harris'

She's not 'black' per se she's Indian/American-Jamaican/American. Even some Asian.

But the media and narrative pushers will force folks to accept the 'black' card for the election lol.

- LordHumungous


Uh what? What color/where do you think Jamaican people come from? You know people exist outside a binary... you can be both black and Indian. It's not an either or.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 31 @ 6:20 PM ET
So Jamaicans are white, and Indian are white, didn’t know that.
- Makita


exactly
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