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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 31 @ 8:20 PM ET
One of the only people on earth who lies more than trump.... but much much bigger lies.

#russiagate

- boonerbuck


You do your fact checking follow up yet?

Here's one about this specific Clinton incident: https://www.washingtonpos...oming-a-female-astronaut/
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 31 @ 8:31 PM ET
You do your fact checking follow up yet?

Here's one about this specific Clinton incident: https://www.washingtonpos...oming-a-female-astronaut/

- NewYorkNuck


It was an online radio broadcast that was part of a autofeed so not much to follow. I can't even remember who the guest was. Not Candace Owens and was probably before it was debunked. There does seem to be conflicting documents for both sides of the grandmother topic as your links show. Most of it is hard to follow because they are talking about a Candace Owen's video that I never watched and likely will never watch so more a case of wtf are they on about.....

Her father is black so it ends there.

I don't give a (frank) about Hillary's astronaut story. poop like that is so petty.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 31 @ 8:56 PM ET
We have already had this conversation 10 pages ago

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...thread_id=159675&page=313

I just like to ask those who say "Trudeau has ruined the country" what specific policy has been most destructive, most go on about his personality but can't articulate what he's personally done to create all this imagined destruction.

National debt is not entirely his fault. His first 5 years in power saw some of the lowest debt in Canadian history. After 2020 all hell broke loose but we all know why.

Inflation/cost of living is not on him or is it "the worse it's ever been". It was so much worse in the 80's and before that.

As for ethics and controversies, please. What canadian PM hasn't had those? My boy Mulroney had his fare share. But I agree, he's a moron.

I'm not a liberal or a fan of JT but I ain't no alarmist either. I can see what the true issues are without the need to blame a scapegoat for systemic Canadian issues. The problems are just as much Canadian citizens fault as they are JTs. We should all look in the mirror.

- bloatedmosquito

Stockholm syndrome, I feel bad for you.

I assume you’re a government employee. Liberals grew the size of government by 40% in 9 years and grew wages in government by 60%.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 31 @ 9:02 PM ET
It was an online radio broadcast that was part of a autofeed so not much to follow. I can't even remember who the guest was. Not Candace Owens and was probably before it was debunked. There does seem to be conflicting documents for both sides of the grandmother topic as your links show. Most of it is hard to follow because they are talking about a Candace Owen's video that I never watched and likely will never watch so more a case of wtf are they on about.....

Her father is black so it ends there.

I don't give a (frank) about Hillary's astronaut story. poop like that is so petty.

- boonerbuck


If her father is black why are you saying shit like, and I quote, "Her "black" claim is doubtful at best"? You're just spreading disinformation and dogwhistle racism like Obama's birtherism conspiracy.

Same with Hillary. The internet is a place where it's so easy to spread false information and have zero accountability when you're proven wrong.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 31 @ 9:11 PM ET
Stockholm syndrome, I feel bad for you.

I assume you’re a government employee. Liberals grew the size of government by 40% in 9 years and grew wages in government by 60%.

- Pacificgem


Please. That's like me saying you think the way you do because you are big oil.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 31 @ 9:20 PM ET
Please. That's like me saying you think the way you do because you are big oil.
- bloatedmosquito



It’s ok, there are people who can help you, and I’m sure Trudeau will pay for it with our tax dollars.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 31 @ 9:25 PM ET
If her father is black why are you saying shit like, and I quote, "Her "black" claim is doubtful at best"? You're just spreading disinformation and dogwhistle racism like Obama's birtherism conspiracy.

Same with Hillary. The internet is a place where it's so easy to spread false information and have zero accountability when you're proven wrong.

- NewYorkNuck


Step the (frank) back will you. What a strange way to reply to a person who conceded.

You just accused me of buying into a racist theory started by a black woman about another black woman. Brilliant.

Where am I wrong about hillary?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 31 @ 9:39 PM ET


It’s ok, there are people who can help you, and I’m sure Trudeau will pay for it with our tax dollars.

- Pacificgem



Who's tax dollars?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 31 @ 10:05 PM ET
Well, it's the Democrats playing the race card to win over the portion of the Afro American population that is not voting for her. They are both on the ends of the race tug rope.

More and more Afro Americans are distancing themselves from the D party. The Democrats talk the talk when it comes to that demographic but in the end they are no better and stab them in the back over and over. So many blacks just care about jobs and putting food on the table for their family. Many are Christian and do not relate to the rabid woke culture that the Democrats seem to push as America's most important agenda. There is a shift happening. More and more blacks are leaning towards the Republicans because the Ol' Boy's club aside, the R party seems to be more focussed on what they see as a priority. Jobs and family values. Democrats seem to think so little of blacks that they think they can bait them with the "vote against white" ideal. Their supporters are scratching their heads when blacks show support for the Republican's border crisis agenda. Why is that so surprising? America's impoverished should think of illegals first? Democrats have lost their way.

- boonerbuck

You know Booner I try not to believe anything that media and people that have specific agendas post online. I don’t have Twitter or instawhatever, Reddit anything that people can manipulate or make misleading comments. I do watch debates and the news and yes I do know that news sites can be politically aligned to one party more than other, Fox News and CNN are 2 famous for their alliances.

Regarding the black population, if I was running for the highest office and was a person of colour, yes I would be proud of that fact. Now the news clips of Trump and Vance each questioning her black lineage is BS, Trump in the debate making claims that Haitian immigrants are stealing domestic animals and eating them is pure BS and I find disturbing for a possible Pres and VP. If the black communities feel they can trust Trump over Harris because of their Christianity then they obviously haven’t learned anything from the southern states (republican states) that have changed voting regulations to make it harder on blacks to vote.

And as for the rabid woke culture, I guess a longing for women to be ruled by Christian white men in the republicans states are exacting what they want. Maybe adopt a few more Taliban policies, yes it’s hyperbole but it bugs me.

Anyway I’m done, I truly hope Harris wins because the world would be far better off than anything Trump.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 31 @ 10:48 PM ET
You know Booner I try not to believe anything that media and people that have specific agendas post online. I don’t have Twitter or instawhatever, Reddit anything that people can manipulate or make misleading comments. I do watch debates and the news and yes I do know that news sites can be politically aligned to one party more than other, Fox News and CNN are 2 famous for their alliances.

Regarding the black population, if I was running for the highest office and was a person of colour, yes I would be proud of that fact. Now the news clips of Trump and Vance each questioning her black lineage is BS, Trump in the debate making claims that Haitian immigrants are stealing domestic animals and eating them is pure BS and I find disturbing for a possible Pres and VP. If the black communities feel they can trust Trump over Harris because of their Christianity then they obviously haven’t learned anything from the southern states (republican states) that have changed voting regulations to make it harder on blacks to vote.

And as for the rabid woke culture, I guess a longing for women to be ruled by Christian white men in the republicans states are exacting what they want. Maybe adopt a few more Taliban policies, yes it’s hyperbole but it bugs me.

Anyway I’m done, I truly hope Harris wins because the world would be far better off than anything Trump.

- Makita


The current president and a democrat opposed the integration of blacks into white schools. Hillary started her political career fighting against the civil rights movement and desegregation for Republican Barry Goldwater... since you are bringing up the Republicans and their past and people not learning. It seems the past history of the last 2 Dems that ran for president is not an issue with you.

The black community has historically been screwed over by both parties. My point was simple... this demographic for the most part is not drawn to all the overplayed woke agendas and does not sympathize with mass illegal immigration.

Times are changing. The Republicans are slowly showing signs of integration both in representation and support. The Democrats need a complete overhaul. They won't even run a popular candidate anymore. Bernie Sanders was more popular than Hillary(and Trump) and they railroaded him for a over the top corrupt war hawk instead who couldnt win. Bernie is more popular than Kamilla who didnt even run in their primary... Bernie railroaded again. Clearly the Democrats are terrified of change because he gets railroaded over and over for candidates who resist change and are some of the worse corporate shills in the game. They have made it clear... they would rather Trump than one of their own who might change the structure that is failing miserably.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 31 @ 11:04 PM ET
Biden calling Trump voters garbage. One thing to say that about a person like him.... but to say that about roughly half of America's voters a week or two before the election??? Wow... did they not learn anything when Hillary made the same mistake and it blew up in their face?

Division division division... and people think that only applies to Trump. They are no better.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 31 @ 11:09 PM ET
The current president and a democrat opposed the integration of blacks into white schools. Hillary started her political career fighting against the civil rights movement and desegregation for Republican Barry Goldwater... since you are bringing up the Republicans and their past and people not learning. It seems the past history of the last 2 Dems that ran for president is not an issue with you.

The black community has historically been screwed over by both parties. My point was simple... this demographic for the most part is not drawn to all the overplayed woke agendas and does not sympathize with mass illegal immigration.

Times are changing. The Republicans are slowly showing signs of integration both in representation and support. The Democrats need a complete overhaul. They won't even run a popular candidate anymore. Bernie Sanders was more popular than Hillary(and Trump) and they railroaded him for a over the top corrupt war hawk instead who couldnt win. Bernie is more popular than Kamilla who didnt even run in their primary... Bernie railroaded again. Clearly the Democrats are terrified of change because he gets railroaded over and over for candidates who resist change and are some of the worse corporate shills in the game.

- boonerbuck


Well we will see what happens next week, I will reiterate that I hope Harris wins and I hope Trump will be gracious and not claim he was cheated and doesn’t start a civil war.
But if Trump wins the entire world will be the losers, just the way I see the narcissist idiot, as I stated yesterday if the republicans had a statesman and not a narcissist they would win by a landslide.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 31 @ 11:15 PM ET
Biden calling Trump voters garbage. One thing to say that about a person like him.... but to say that about roughly half of America's voters a week or two before the election??? Wow... did they not learn anything when Hillary made the same mistake and it blew up in their face?

Division division division... and people think that only applies to Trump. They are no better.

- boonerbuck

I think the last sentence is an over generalization, I don’t like Trump one bit, but there are several that idolize him and bash Harris just as much, so people don’t think that it only applies to Trump, Biden is/was mocked just as much.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 1 @ 12:11 AM ET
Well we will see what happens next week, I will reiterate that I hope Harris wins and I hope Trump will be gracious and not claim he was cheated and doesn’t start a civil war.
But if Trump wins the entire world will be the losers, just the way I see the narcissist idiot, as I stated yesterday if the republicans had a statesman and not a narcissist they would win by a landslide.

- Makita


Well if Harris loses, let's just hope she doesnt pull a Hillary and spend 6 years trying to convince everyone that she was cheated out of the election by a Trump and Putin collusion. She dragged the FBI into it with her fake dossier... went on for years... top story in the media for those 6 years...she should be in jail for that kind of abuse of the system. Like I keep pointing out... the election denial was both parties, one after the other... but no matter how many times two sides are pointed out... you only have an issue with one side being like that. From where I stand... I see American politics. I don't have your filter.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 1 @ 12:14 AM ET
I think the last sentence is an over generalization, I don’t like Trump one bit, but there are several that idolize him and bash Harris just as much, so people don’t think that it only applies to Trump, Biden is/was mocked just as much.
- Makita


I'm talking about the division accusation that follows Trump. Warranted... yes... exclusive... not at all. Hillary and Biden and now Kamilla all do it as well.

I may be mistaken but I think you're implying I'm saying only Trump gets mocked... which is actually the generalization here. I'm being specific.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 1 @ 1:08 AM ET
I'm talking about the division accusation that follows Trump. Warranted... yes... exclusive... not at all. Hillary and Biden and now Kamilla all do it as well.

I may be mistaken but I think you're implying I'm saying only Trump gets mocked... which is actually the generalization here. I'm being specific.

- boonerbuck

Cool, we have our differences of opinions on quite a bit here, but thanks for the respectful exchange. I liked that bloated started this thread.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 1 @ 1:14 AM ET
Cool, we have our differences of opinions on quite a bit here, but thanks for the respectful exchange. I liked that bloated started this thread.
- Makita


Yeah, of course.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 1 @ 4:29 AM ET
Step the (frank) back will you. What a strange way to reply to a person who conceded.

You just accused me of buying into a racist theory started by a black woman about another black woman. Brilliant.

Where am I wrong about hillary?

- boonerbuck


You didn't really "concede", you just sort of side-stepped the notion of the grandmother and said her father's black. Something along the lines of "oh poop, I was wrong about that, my bad" is taking ownership.

Does a racist conspiracy theory have to be crafted by someone a different race?

And the Hillary thing wasn't aimed at you specifically. It was the general idea that conspiracies and false information get spread so easily and rapidly, and even when evidence comes out to counter it, the lie has taken on a life of its own.

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 1 @ 12:00 PM ET
PP doesn't need a deal, practically the whole country will be blue, he's going to have one of the largest majorities in Canadian history.

What is the biggest....*heads to google*

Edit: found it...

"The Canadian government with the largest Parliamentary majority in terms of the raw number of seats was the Mulroney ministry following the 1984 election, winning 211 of 282 seats (74.82%).

However, the Diefenbaker ministry following the 1958 election, while having won three fewer seats, actually won a higher proportion of seats, taking 208 of 265 seats (78.49%)."

- Pacificgem


I don't believe idiot Trudeau would win another election, but I think you might be wrong about the whole country going blue. Recently, (2023-24) several western provinces have had provincial elections, 2 of those provinces(BC and Manitoba) elected NDP governments, while Alberta and Saskatchewan have voted in strong NDP opposition.
I realize you aren't that smart, but when talking politics, it pays to at least follow along with how people are actually voting, not reading the screamers, who tend to be loud and obnoxious, kinda like yourself and that idiot Oildrum, who doesn't understand the difference between the left and right.
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Nov 1 @ 12:11 PM ET
I don't believe idiot Trudeau would win another election, but I think you might be wrong about the whole country going blue. Recently, (2023-24) several western provinces have had provincial elections, 2 of those provinces(BC and Manitoba) elected NDP governments, while Alberta and Saskatchewan have voted in strong NDP opposition.
I realize you aren't that smart, but when talking politics, it pays to at least follow along with how people are actually voting, not reading the screamers, who tend to be loud and obnoxious, kinda like yourself and that idiot Oildrum, who doesn't understand the difference between the left and right.

- Reubenkincade

Don't forget that the Liberals kicked the Conservatives asses in the New Brunswick election.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 1 @ 12:23 PM ET
Don't forget that the Liberals kicked the Conservatives asses in the New Brunswick election.
- Danny Bomber


That was surprising.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 1 @ 12:41 PM ET
That was surprising.
- bloatedmosquito


Not really.

A huge surplus due mostly to a major population increase and 24 hour hospital waits will do that.

Hopefully the liberals only spend part of the surplus on health care because our debt to GDP is still pretty high.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 1 @ 12:43 PM ET
Also, the Nova Scotia conservatives who were elected a few years ago have called a snap election.

That is despite them putting into law fixed election dates a couple of years back. For all of those who think a blue wave is the answer........think again.
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Nov 1 @ 12:47 PM ET
If that happens as you layout what will Oildrums man crush do? Civil war, have his Supreme Court lackies overturn the democratic election?

Personally I think Harris may lose simply because she is a woman and Merica is doing everything they can to oppress women.

- Makita


If she loses it's because the Dems were stupid enough to replace Biden with an unqualified female minority instead of someone who can actually articulate where their party stands on policies.

Not someone who flip flops more than a fish and can't give a speech without a teleprompter.

They went all in playing the woke hand and hopefully they get what they deserve.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 1 @ 12:49 PM ET
Don't forget that the Liberals kicked the Conservatives asses in the New Brunswick election.
- Danny Bomber


Yes that as well.
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